[oS-en] Web photo gallery

Carlos E. R.

14 Apr 2023 14 Apr '23

20:51

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David C. Rankin

14 Apr 14 Apr

21:07

On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2 I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying. Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Carlos E.R.

21:11

On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2

I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying.

Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run. At least for now. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Patrick Shanahan

22:03

* Carlos E.R. [04-14-23 17:12]:

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2

I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying.

Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run.

At least for now.

then you need to look at: https://pythonbasics.org/webserver/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

Carlos E. R.

15 Apr 15 Apr

00:51

On 2023-04-15 00:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E.R. <> [04-14-23 17:12]:

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2

I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying.

Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run.

At least for now.

then you need to look at: https://pythonbasics.org/webserver/

I already have a webserver. Apache. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Patrick Shanahan

03:06

* Carlos E. R. [04-14-23 20:52]:

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On 2023-04-15 00:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E.R. <> [04-14-23 17:12]:

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2

I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying.

Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run.

At least for now.

then you need to look at: https://pythonbasics.org/webserver/

I already have a webserver. Apache.

then to simply display photos, darktable will develop your raws and export them to a very simple album that only needs to be placed within your webserver. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

jdd＠dodin.org

06:08

Le 15/04/2023 à 05:06, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :

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then to simply display photos, darktable will develop your raws and export them to a very simple album that only needs to be placed within your webserver.

to simply display the photos, digikam also provide html export. else piwigo is a very good gallery jdd -- mon serveur usenet: dodin.fr.nf c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

Carlos E. R.

08:54

On 2023-04-15 08:08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 15/04/2023 à 05:06, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :

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then to simply display photos, darktable will develop your raws and export them to a very simple album that only needs to be placed within your webserver.

to simply display the photos, digikam also provide html export.

I'll check them.

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else piwigo is a very good gallery Piwigo doesn't seem to be available on openSUSE.

-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Jdd

10:45

15 avr. 2023 10:58:59 Carlos E. R. :

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On 2023-04-15 08:08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 15/04/2023 à 05:06, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : then to simply display photos, darktable will develop your raws and export

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them to a very simple album that only needs to be placed within your webserver.

to simply display the photos, digikam also provide html export.

I'll check them.

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else piwigo is a very good gallery Piwigo doesn't seem to be available on openSUSE.

Piwigo is a php application, opensource Jdd

gebser＠mousecar.com

10:33

On 4/14/23 5:11 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2

I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying.

Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run.

At least for now.

The absolute simplest, no-frills method, I'd think, would be a bash script that would both upload the photo and insert the html code into a page. I'm assuming you already have ssh/scp set up for accessing the webserver.

Carlos E.R.

12:18

On 2023-04-15 12:33, gebser@mousecar.com wrote:

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On 4/14/23 5:11 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally.

And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

I googled.

I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/

but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2

I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying.

Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run.

At least for now.

The absolute simplest, no-frills method, I'd think, would be a bash script that would both upload the photo and insert the html code into a page. I'm assuming you already have ssh/scp set up for accessing the webserver.

I can ssh and I have physical access. I just need to extend my hand from the desktop machine :-) I was looking for something that would add whatever html is needed. I'm looking at digiKam, and in export I do not see "export to apache". Ah, in tools there is "create html gallery". Done. And it works :-))) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Vojtěch Zeisek

15:56

Dne pátek 14. dubna 2023 23:11:49 CEST, Carlos E.R. napsal(a):

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery? I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally. And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router). I googled. I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/ but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2 I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying. Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run. At least for now.

DigiKam can export plain HTML album. -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/

Carlos E. R.

18:19

On 2023-04-15 17:56, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:

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Dne pátek 14. dubna 2023 23:11:49 CEST, Carlos E.R. napsal(a):

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery? I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally. And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router). I googled. I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/ but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2 I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying. Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run. At least for now.

DigiKam can export plain HTML album.

Yes, that's what I did. It seems, though, that I can not add photos to an existing "share", I have to recreate it all from scratch. Not that I need this now, but just wondering. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Patrick Shanahan

18:23

* Carlos E. R. [04-15-23 14:20]:

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On 2023-04-15 17:56, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:

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Dne pátek 14. dubna 2023 23:11:49 CEST, Carlos E.R. napsal(a):

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery? I locally upload a directory of photos to my own web server, and I just pot a link to it for friends to see. Nobody can upload photos except me, locally. And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router). I googled. I found this:https://linuxhint.com/self-hosted-photo-video-galleries/ but none of that seems to be available at openSUSE.

Gallery2 was the BEST - but was php 5.6. There is a fork that is updated to support php 8 on github https://github.com/gregstoll/gallery2 I've used it forever - excellent access controls, user accounts, and option to create symlinks to photos rather than copying. Take a bit to setup (LAMP), but worth the effort!

No, I do not want features. I want plain and simple, trivial to install, and safe. Better if there is no code to run. At least for now.

DigiKam can export plain HTML album.

Yes, that's what I did.

It seems, though, that I can not add photos to an existing "share", I have to recreate it all from scratch. Not that I need this now, but just wondering.

can you not simply merge the albums with a texteditor and renaming duplicate files? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

Carlos E. R.

18:40

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2023-04-15 at 14:23 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E. R. <> [04-15-23 14:20]:

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On 2023-04-15 17:56, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:

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Dne pátek 14. dubna 2023 23:11:49 CEST, Carlos E.R. napsal(a):

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On 2023-04-14 23:07, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 4/14/23 15:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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DigiKam can export plain HTML album.

Yes, that's what I did.

It seems, though, that I can not add photos to an existing "share", I have to recreate it all from scratch. Not that I need this now, but just wondering.

can you not simply merge the albums with a texteditor and renaming duplicate files?

It is not that simple. The "share" gets 3 copies of each photo, as far as I can see: a thumbnail, a normal photo (reduced in weight), and the original, available as a click for download. So dikiKam generates them (in a local directory, which in my case happens to be an nfs export from the server). And there is a file, "gallery.xml", that contains this for each photo: <collection> <name>Libros</name> <fileName>libros</fileName> <image> <title>PLX00326.JPG</title> <description></description> <date>2023-04-14T20:43:26</date> <full fileName="plx00326_jpg.jpeg" height="682" width="1024"/> <thumbnail fileName="thumb_plx00326_jpg.jpeg" height="120" width="120"/> <original fileName="original_plx00326_jpg.jpeg" height="3648" width="5472"/> <exif> <exifimagemake>Panasonic</exifimagemake> <exifimagemodel>DC-FZ10002</exifimagemodel> <exifimageorientation>top, left</exifimageorientation> <exifimagexresolution>180</exifimagexresolution> <exifimageyresolution>180</exifimageyresolution> <exifimageresolutionunit>inch</exifimageresolutionunit> <exifimagedatetime>14/04/2023 20.43</exifimagedatetime> <exifimageycbcrpositioning>Co-sited</exifimageycbcrpositioning> <exifphotoexposuretime>1/60 s</exifphotoexposuretime> <exifphotofnumber>F2.8</exifphotofnumber> <exifphotoexposureprogram>unavailable</exifphotoexposureprogram> <exifphotoisospeedratings>400</exifphotoisospeedratings> <exifphotoshutterspeedvalue>unavailable</exifphotoshutterspeedvalue> <exifphotoaperturevalue>unavailable</exifphotoaperturevalue> <exifphotofocallength>9.1 mm</exifphotofocallength> <exifgpslatitude>unavailable</exifgpslatitude> <exifgpslongitude>unavailable</exifgpslongitude> <exifgpsaltitude>unavailable</exifgpsaltitude> </exif> </image> <image> <title>PLX00325.JPG</title> <description></description> ... I don't know what for, because I did not see how to reveal that info in the resulting web page. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZDrvvBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV2rYAn2haQf1qq84bFmOHzdyU ROV5dmn3AKCVDB0CjuDweqhOGLlQDMIYl/9Bvg== =UHmU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Bengt Gördén

16 Apr 16 Apr

06:42

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-15 20:40, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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can you not simply merge the albums with a texteditor and renaming duplicate files?

If you export the gallery and simply rsync the files/directory, it should only copy changed (size or last changed) files. -- /bengan

David Thorburn-Gundlach

09:55

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

Bengt, et al -- ...and then Bengt Gördén said... % On 2023-04-15 20:40, Carlos E. R. wrote: % > can you not simply merge the albums with a texteditor and renaming % > duplicate files? % % If you export the gallery and simply rsync the files/directory, it should % only copy changed (size or last changed) files. Yes, but the problem is that these pieces of code are creating a static presentation from the then-current set of pictures. If Carlos wanted to have to manually create a photo gallery I dare say he could whip up some HTML by hand and even probably automate the process in a few lines of shell script. Although what he wants must be drop-dead simple, I get the impression that it must also be dynamic. % % -- % /bengan HANW :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

Carlos E. R.

10:54

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-16 11:55, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote:

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Bengt, et al --

...and then Bengt Gördén said... % On 2023-04-15 20:40, Carlos E. R. wrote: % > can you not simply merge the albums with a texteditor and renaming % > duplicate files? % % If you export the gallery and simply rsync the files/directory, it should % only copy changed (size or last changed) files.

Digikam generates the to be exported directory, fully populated, which in my case is directly connected to the server via NFS. No need for extra steps. It generates 3 types of photo files: the originals, with changed names, the thumbnails, and the normally shown photos, reduced in size. Depending on the theme, also another html file per photo. Then a bunch of other files, like index.html and gallery.xml. If I add or change a photo to the collection, I have to export it all again. There is no single option to click and redo it all, I have to select the same selection as the first time, and select the same menu entries as the first time. There is very little configuration. For example, my photos have both a "Tittle" and a "caption" in the metadata. Some of the gallery themes display the "caption" only, none show the "tittle". I can not choose what metadata to display. For example, the theme I finally selected displays the caption and the date. I have no use for the date. When I click on a photo, it displays a bigger version, with some metadata: Caption Exif data Image Date Time Make Model Focal Length F Number Exposure Time ISO Speed Ratings Original Image (5472x3648) I really only want the caption, in this case. I want it simple and easy, what I got will do fine, but it needs some more features. My use case this time is simply that I want to get rid (donate or sell) a bunch of old books. I can send people an email with a link to the photos of the books instead of sending a huge email (they are 82 photos). So I really don't need much, just display the photos with a description for each. Each time I try a new theme it generates again all the photo files on the server, which are 800 Mbytes, so each test is slow (a minute or so). I can, of course, generate a small sample for testing the themes.

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Yes, but the problem is that these pieces of code are creating a static presentation from the then-current set of pictures. If Carlos wanted to have to manually create a photo gallery I dare say he could whip up some HTML by hand and even probably automate the process in a few lines of shell script.

If I spoke html, which I don't. I'd like something already done, preferably already packaged for openSUSE. None of those I found are available in repos, it seems.

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Although what he wants must be drop-dead simple, I get the impression that it must also be dynamic.

This time, I don't need dynamic. But if, one of these years, I make my family photo collection available, then I'll need more features, including password control. One further nuisance is that I have most of my photos marked with tags and comments, using Shotwell. Dikikam, which is quite similar but much more feature rich, is unable to read any of that :-( It is a pain that open software can not collaborate with one another. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

David Thorburn-Gundlach

03:07

Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % Hi, % % Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery? [snip] Check out fancybox. After years of supporting ever-staler PHP code and then having to make the jump of a couple of major versions, plus now being a flight instructor :-) :-) :-) instead of an IT guy, I had to move to something drop-dead simple. This worked, and it only took a few hours of poking to get it right. Next on my list was rewrite rule work to accept the old URLs and make them the new format. Then, of course, I had a hard drive crash while I was between RAID configs and lost that setup -- plus 30 years of content, so I've been a bit slow to get back to it. If^WWhen I get it going again, I'll try to remember to follow up if you're interested. Or when you get it going you can send me your quick tips notes ;-) HANW :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

Carlos E. R.

11:09

On 2023-04-16 05:07, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote:

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Carlos, et al --

...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % Hi, % % Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery? [snip]

Check out fancybox. After years of supporting ever-staler PHP code and then having to make the jump of a couple of major versions, plus now being a flight instructor :-) :-) :-) instead of an IT guy, I had to move to something drop-dead simple. This worked, and it only took a few hours of poking to get it right. Next on my list was rewrite rule work to accept the old URLs and make them the new format.

This? https://sourceforge.net/projects/fancybox.mirror/

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Then, of course, I had a hard drive crash while I was between RAID configs and lost that setup -- plus 30 years of content, so I've been a bit slow to get back to it. If^WWhen I get it going again, I'll try to remember to follow up if you're interested. Or when you get it going you can send me your quick tips notes ;-)

HANW

:-D

:-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

David Thorburn-Gundlach

18 Apr 18 Apr

03:36

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - fancybox

Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % On 2023-04-16 05:07, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote: % > % > Check out fancybox. After years of supporting ever-staler PHP code and ... % % This? % % https://sourceforge.net/projects/fancybox.mirror/ [snip] Doesn't look like it. https://fancyapps.com/fancybox/ https://github.com/fancyapps/fancybox No, wait. The "fancyBox Web Site" link points back to fancyapps github, so maybe. Keep us posted :-) I'm not at all a fan of static generation like digiKam, but ifyou try out this or other dynamic bits like vesiga or piwigo I'll eagerly take advantage of your research. HTH & HANN :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

Per Jessen

16 Apr 16 Apr

10:47

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

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And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

That would be up to the webserver, but it is easily configured. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.6°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E. R.

11:02

On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE. :-?

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And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

That would be up to the webserver, but it is easily configured.

As it is the first time I did this, I did not know. I already have a gallery working, generated by digikam. Works fine, didn't have to change anything in apache. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Per Jessen

11:11

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE.

https://gallery.jessen.ch/vesiga.tar.gz It is a php app, no need to package anything. Hmm, I think I need to update that tarball, it's almost ten years old :-)

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And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

That would be up to the webserver, but it is easily configured.

As it is the first time I did this, I did not know. I already have a gallery working, generated by digikam. Works fine, didn't have to change anything in apache.

How did you make apache listen on a higher port of your own without changing anything ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.4°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E. R.

11:19

On 2023-04-16 13:11, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE.

https://gallery.jessen.ch/vesiga.tar.gz

Ok. Just three files, that's all? :-o Huh, I need a readme, I don't know what to do with them.

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It is a php app, no need to package anything. Hmm, I think I need to update that tarball, it's almost ten years old :-)

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And not using port 80, but a higher port of my own (it seems my ISP insists on using 80 themselves on my own router).

That would be up to the webserver, but it is easily configured.

As it is the first time I did this, I did not know. I already have a gallery working, generated by digikam. Works fine, didn't have to change anything in apache.

How did you make apache listen on a higher port of your own without changing anything ?

Oh, I did that years ago and have forgotten about it. I just dropped a new subdirectory on it :-) I'm not sure I have php enabled in my apache, though. Not very happy about it :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Per Jessen

11:45

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 13:11, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE.

https://gallery.jessen.ch/vesiga.tar.gz

Ok. Just three files, that's all? :-o

I think it might be one or two more by now - let me rebuild the tarball.

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Huh, I need a readme, I don't know what to do with them.

You copy them into the directory that you want to serve them from. I have rebuilt the tarball and added a README.

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How did you make apache listen on a higher port of your own without changing anything ?

Oh, I did that years ago and have forgotten about it. I just dropped a new subdirectory on it :-)

That won't change the listening port - you have to amend /etc/apache2/listen.conf and the vhost definition.

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I'm not sure I have php enabled in my apache, though. Not very happy about it :-?

Not happy about php?? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.0°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E. R.

12:21

On 2023-04-16 13:45, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 13:11, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE.

https://gallery.jessen.ch/vesiga.tar.gz

Ok. Just three files, that's all? :-o

I think it might be one or two more by now - let me rebuild the tarball.

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Huh, I need a readme, I don't know what to do with them.

You copy them into the directory that you want to serve them from. I have rebuilt the tarball and added a README.

Ok, done. [...] It only displays the normal apache directory view. AFAIK it doesn't know what to do with "index.phtml". Right, that's it: Isengard:/etc/apache2 # rpm -qa | grep -i php Isengard:/etc/apache2 #

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How did you make apache listen on a higher port of your own without changing anything ?

Oh, I did that years ago and have forgotten about it. I just dropped a new subdirectory on it :-)

That won't change the listening port - you have to amend /etc/apache2/listen.conf and the vhost definition.

Certainly, I did that years ago.

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I'm not sure I have php enabled in my apache, though. Not very happy about it :-?

Not happy about php??

Nope. Not very happy about running code inside my server. I don't feel happy about installing something I don't understand at all. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Per Jessen

12:34

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 13:45, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 13:11, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Hi, > > Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo > gallery?

You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE.

https://gallery.jessen.ch/vesiga.tar.gz

Ok. Just three files, that's all? :-o

I think it might be one or two more by now - let me rebuild the tarball.

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Huh, I need a readme, I don't know what to do with them.

You copy them into the directory that you want to serve them from. I have rebuilt the tarball and added a README.

Ok, done.

It only displays the normal apache directory view. AFAIK it doesn't know what to do with "index.phtml". Right, that's it:

Isengard:/etc/apache2 # rpm -qa | grep -i php Isengard:/etc/apache2 #

Yes, you will need php installed for this to work.

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I'm not sure I have php enabled in my apache, though. Not very happy about it :-?

Not happy about php??

Nope. Not very happy about running code inside my server. I don't feel happy about installing something I don't understand at all.

php is a programming language, what is there to understand? Anyway, read the code, it is very minimal. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E.R.

13:59

On 2023-04-16 14:34, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 13:45, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 13:11, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-16 12:47, Per Jessen wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Do you know of a trivial, no frills, self hosted web photo >> gallery? > > You're more than welcome to use "vesiga", I use it for > https://gallery.jessen.ch.

Where do I get it from? A google search fails. There is no package at openSUSE.

https://gallery.jessen.ch/vesiga.tar.gz

Ok. Just three files, that's all? :-o

I think it might be one or two more by now - let me rebuild the tarball.

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Huh, I need a readme, I don't know what to do with them.

You copy them into the directory that you want to serve them from. I have rebuilt the tarball and added a README.

Ok, done.

It only displays the normal apache directory view. AFAIK it doesn't know what to do with "index.phtml". Right, that's it:

Isengard:/etc/apache2 # rpm -qa | grep -i php Isengard:/etc/apache2 #

Yes, you will need php installed for this to work.

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I'm not sure I have php enabled in my apache, though. Not very happy about it :-?

Not happy about php??

Nope. Not very happy about running code inside my server. I don't feel happy about installing something I don't understand at all.

php is a programming language, what is there to understand? Anyway, read the code, it is very minimal.

Well, till now I have avoided installing it. Yes, I had a look at Vesiga, but it lacks some features: I need to display the exif caption at least, for each photo (tittle and caption would be nicer). All the alternatives I checked also need php, some want mysql as well. But DigiKam produces a static page that works very nicely. I'll send you a link to my current site, with demos of all gallery types DigiKam produces. Anybody that wants to see it, just tell me and I'll send the link, off list (I just do not want it to be public where google sees it). Demos I did: S0 classic details fhtml5_responsive__brown_card html5_responsive__feed html5_responsive__basic html5_responsive__lightbox floating_cards ← I prefer this one. simple__dark simple__natural simple_slideshow vanilla__ice_blue elegant frames blue_frames date_frames (generation aborts with "Could not load XSL file '/usr/share/digikam/themes/dateframes/template.xsl') blue_curves clean_frames snow matrix simple_rounded vanilla__graphite -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Per Jessen

15:11

Carlos E.R. wrote:

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Well, till now I have avoided installing it. Yes, I had a look at Vesiga, but it lacks some features:

That is the whole point - minimal features only :-)

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I need to display the exif caption at least, for each photo (tittle and caption would be nicer).

The exif data can be extracted with exif_read_data(), you could easily add the data to index.phtml or show.phtml. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.8°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E. R.

18:37

On 2023-04-16 17:11, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E.R. wrote:

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Well, till now I have avoided installing it. Yes, I had a look at Vesiga, but it lacks some features:

That is the whole point - minimal features only :-)

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I need to display the exif caption at least, for each photo (tittle and caption would be nicer).

The exif data can be extracted with exif_read_data(), you could easily add the data to index.phtml or show.phtml.

But that exceeds my knowledge. The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully static, written at "compile time" by DigiKam, so that the server has to do nothing, just serve the contents. That's perfect, no load on its tiny CPU. And I have to do nothing either except some clicks. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Per Jessen

18:46

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery [solved]

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully static, written at "compile time" by DigiKam, so that the server has to do nothing, just serve the contents. That's perfect, no load on its tiny CPU. And I have to do nothing either except some clicks.

Excellent, you have found your solution. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.8°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

jdd＠dodin.org

20:28

Le 16/04/2023 à 20:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully

may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be able to find them again afterward (for example tag:20230414-html) jdd -- mon serveur usenet: dodin.fr.nf c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

Carlos E. R.

21:27

On 2023-04-16 22:28, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 16/04/2023 à 20:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully

may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be able to find them again afterward

(for example tag:20230414-html)

Bob Rogers

17 Apr 17 Apr

01:20

From: "Carlos E. R." Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:27:31 +0200 On 2023-04-16 22:28, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 16/04/2023 à 20:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully

may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be able to find them again afterward

(for example tag:20230414-html)

I use a "saved search" in digikam to find the files; and I saw when generating the page that you can feed a list of photos in a file. Still, no option to save some "something" that redoes the entire thing on a single click. A definition file or script. You have to write all the options on a paper to be able to click them all again in a few months time. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar) This sounds like a "make" system for photo page construction; I find that appealing. If I don't find something more geek-friendly than digikam appears to be (and I probably won't have time to play with anything suggested in this thread for a few weeks), I may sit down and write something like that myself. (I tried something simpler once and found that it didn't work as well as I had hoped, but I'm more motivated to do something better now that I have more photos.) -- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/

Carlos E. R.

09:11

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-17 03:20, Bob Rogers wrote:

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From: "Carlos E. R." Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:27:31 +0200

On 2023-04-16 22:28, jdd@dodin.org wrote: > Le 16/04/2023 à 20:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit : > >> The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully > > may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be > able to find them again afterward > > (for example tag:20230414-html)

I use a "saved search" in digikam to find the files; and I saw when generating the page that you can feed a list of photos in a file. Still, no option to save some "something" that redoes the entire thing on a single click. A definition file or script. You have to write all the options on a paper to be able to click them all again in a few months time.

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This sounds like a "make" system for photo page construction; I find that appealing. If I don't find something more geek-friendly than digikam appears to be (and I probably won't have time to play with anything suggested in this thread for a few weeks), I may sit down and write something like that myself. (I tried something simpler once and found that it didn't work as well as I had hoped, but I'm more motivated to do something better now that I have more photos.)

Digikam has the appeal that it is a static webpage, thus trivial to put on Apache. Low CPU load on it, too, it doesn't run code. Caveats, several. Adding a single photo means you have to generate the complete thing, from selecting the set of photos, to selecting the same theme and options, then sending it all, including the same photos to the server. It is just a few clicks, so it is easy. The thumbnails and normal sized photos are generated "at compile time". Each time you do a change to the theme, they are generated again, so if your photo collection is large, that's a considerable time. You can not add texts. Some of the themes can add a copyright and/or email address. Of course, you can edit the generated html files, but if you do a change at the "source", your mods are gone. The generator takes automatically the caption that is already included in the exif data of each photo. Not the tittle, though. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

gumb

09:58

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 17/04/2023 11:11, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 03:20, Bob Rogers wrote:

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    From: "Carlos E. R."     Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:27:31 +0200

    On 2023-04-16 22:28, jdd@dodin.org wrote:     > Le 16/04/2023 à 20:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit :     >     >> The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully     >     > may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be     > able to find them again afterward     >     > (for example tag:20230414-html)

    I use a "saved search" in digikam to find the files; and I saw when     generating the page that you can feed a list of photos in a file.     Still, no option to save some "something" that redoes the entire     thing on a single click. A definition file or script. You have to     write all the options on a paper to be able to click them all again     in a few months time.

Not been following this thread closely enough to know if I'm on quite the same page, but in order to create a saved selection of photos, can you not create a new folder containing symlinks to those photos? I just tested an easy method by dragging some pictures in Dolphin to another directory, dropping and selecting 'Link here'. Back in Digikam, go to that new folder, refresh if necessary, the photos show up whether they are the originals or shortcuts. gumb

Carlos E. R.

10:09

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-17 11:58, gumb wrote:

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On 17/04/2023 11:11, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 03:20, Bob Rogers wrote:

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    From: "Carlos E. R."     Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:27:31 +0200

    On 2023-04-16 22:28, jdd@dodin.org wrote:     > Le 16/04/2023 à 20:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit :     >     >> The page generated by DigiKam, if you have seen my demo, is fully     >     > may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be     > able to find them again afterward     >     > (for example tag:20230414-html)

    I use a "saved search" in digikam to find the files; and I saw when     generating the page that you can feed a list of photos in a file.     Still, no option to save some "something" that redoes the entire     thing on a single click. A definition file or script. You have to     write all the options on a paper to be able to click them all again     in a few months time.

Not been following this thread closely enough to know if I'm on quite the same page, but in order to create a saved selection of photos, can you not create a new folder containing symlinks to those photos? I just tested an easy method by dragging some pictures in Dolphin to another directory, dropping and selecting 'Link here'. Back in Digikam, go to that new folder, refresh if necessary, the photos show up whether they are the originals or shortcuts.

Possibly. But then digiKam scans those folders everytime it runs, plus the normal collection folder. Possibly (I do not know) it detects the duplicates and does something about that. With another software a duplicate photo is a problem, because there is a database of all photos, identified by file name. I haven't tested if it is a problem with digiKam. No, the feature to use for this would be the saved list of photos to feed the "create html gallery" tool. I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum jAlbum jAlbum is cross-platform photo website software for creating and uploading galleries from images and videos. jAlbum has built-in support for organizing and editing images, but with focus on flexible presentation. The resulting albums can be published on jalbum.net or on the user's own website.[1] jAlbum software has been used to create over 32 million photo galleries, with over one million users. Majestic.com counts over 118 million backlinks to jalbum.net[2] Software jAlbum is credited as being extremely easy to use, flexible and versatile.[3] − It relies on the Java virtual machine, so can be run on most operating systems, and is available in 32 languages[4] The software allows users to manage their photo collection, sorting photos into albums, performing basic digital editing and commenting individual photos. The main focus is on producing HTML based galleries, for publishing online or distributing via other means. Users can customise the look and functionality of their photo galleries by using a small set of templates or skins that come with the program, or by choosing from dozens of skins available for download. Some are free, but others require a third party license.[5] The community, that has formed around jAlbum produces a variety of creative skins, offering galleries based on standard HTML designs, AJAX slideshows and popular image viewers. Jalbum was created by Swedish programmer David Ekholm in 2002. Oh. I must explore this. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

gumb

10:23

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 17/04/2023 12:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 11:58, gumb wrote:

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Not been following this thread closely enough to know if I'm on quite the same page, but in order to create a saved selection of photos, can you not create a new folder containing symlinks to those photos? I just tested an easy method by dragging some pictures in Dolphin to another directory, dropping and selecting 'Link here'. Back in Digikam, go to that new folder, refresh if necessary, the photos show up whether they are the originals or shortcuts.

Possibly.

But then digiKam scans those folders everytime it runs, plus the normal collection folder. Possibly (I do not know) it detects the duplicates and does something about that.

With another software a duplicate photo is a problem, because there is a database of all photos, identified by file name. I haven't tested if it is a problem with digiKam.

Can't imagine Digikam would be that dumb. Most digital cameras produce files with standard naming schemes. With the number of photos I get sent to me called 'image0.jpg' or 'img1234.jpg', if Digikam muddled those all up that would be unmanageable. And if in doubt, you could run a simple rename on all the files in the shortcut directory.

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No, the feature to use for this would be the saved list of photos to feed the "create html gallery" tool.

I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum

jAlbum

<snip> Sounds great. Might have to look into it myself if I ever find the time to sort out 1000 other things first. I'd like to put some of my photos online painlessly but retain control over the copyrights and different users' access.

Carlos E. R.

10:34

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-17 12:23, gumb wrote:

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On 17/04/2023 12:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 11:58, gumb wrote:

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Not been following this thread closely enough to know if I'm on quite the same page, but in order to create a saved selection of photos, can you not create a new folder containing symlinks to those photos? I just tested an easy method by dragging some pictures in Dolphin to another directory, dropping and selecting 'Link here'. Back in Digikam, go to that new folder, refresh if necessary, the photos show up whether they are the originals or shortcuts.

Possibly.

But then digiKam scans those folders everytime it runs, plus the normal collection folder. Possibly (I do not know) it detects the duplicates and does something about that.

With another software a duplicate photo is a problem, because there is a database of all photos, identified by file name. I haven't tested if it is a problem with digiKam.

Can't imagine Digikam would be that dumb. Most digital cameras produce files with standard naming schemes. With the number of photos I get sent to me called 'image0.jpg' or 'img1234.jpg', if Digikam muddled those all up that would be unmanageable. And if in doubt, you could run a simple rename on all the files in the shortcut directory.

Shotwell, which is similar software for Gnome, does have problems with that. I have to rename the photos on the card before downloading. It is not intended to use photos sent to you, but photos extracted from your camera. Of course, the openSUSE Leap version is probably obsolete.

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No, the feature to use for this would be the saved list of photos to feed the "create html gallery" tool.

I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum

jAlbum

<snip>

Sounds great. Might have to look into it myself if I ever find the time to sort out 1000 other things first. I'd like to put some of my photos online painlessly but retain control over the copyrights and different users' access.

Yep. It is gotten to the top of my todo list. not today, though. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

kschneider bout-tyme.net

13:40

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

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I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum

jAlbum

<snip>

I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it. Ken

Carlos E. R.

14:03

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-17 15:40, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum

jAlbum

<snip>

I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it.

Is the server living at your home? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

kschneider bout-tyme.net

14:14

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I used a hosting company for the web site. But I haven’t been a member for over 10 years and the new webmaster totally redesigned the website when I left the club. Ken Schneider

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On Apr 17, 2023, at 10:08 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2023-04-17 15:40, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum

jAlbum

<snip> I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it.

Is the server living at your home?

-- Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

Carlos E. R.

14:29

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-17 16:14, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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Ken Schneider

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On Apr 17, 2023, at 10:08 AM, Carlos E. R. <> wrote: On 2023-04-17 15:40, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum

jAlbum

<snip> I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it.

Is the server living at your home?

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I used a hosting company for the web site. But I haven’t been a member for over 10 years and the new webmaster totally redesigned the website when I left the club.

Then it is not valid, because I seek only for solutions fully running at home. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

Patrick Shanahan

15:18

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* Carlos E. R. [04-17-23 10:30]:

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On 2023-04-17 16:14, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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Ken Schneider

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On Apr 17, 2023, at 10:08 AM, Carlos E. R. <> wrote: On 2023-04-17 15:40, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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> > I noticed another tool named "create jAlbum gallery". I have no idea what is that. Probably this: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAlbum > > jAlbum > <snip> I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it.

Is the server living at your home?

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I used a hosting company for the web site. But I haven’t been a member for over 10 years and the new webmaster totally redesigned the website when I left the club.

Then it is not valid, because I seek only for solutions fully running at home.

JAlbum will generate a web page for you to place on your server and jalbum is very easy to use, but is closed source and requires payment. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

Per Jessen

15:19

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 16:14, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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Ken Schneider

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I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it.

Is the server living at your home?

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I used a hosting company for the web site. But I haven’t been a member for over 10 years and the new webmaster totally redesigned the website when I left the club.

Then it is not valid, because I seek only for solutions fully running at home.

I don't quite see the significance of the server location? Ken used external hosting because it was convenient, I presume. You want to run it at home because it is convenient, I presume. Anyway, as somebody hinted earlier, we're really wayyyyy off-topic. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.1°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E. R.

16:21

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On 2023-04-17 17:19, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 16:14, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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Ken Schneider

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I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend it.

Is the server living at your home?

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I used a hosting company for the web site. But I haven’t been a member for over 10 years and the new webmaster totally redesigned the website when I left the club.

Then it is not valid, because I seek only for solutions fully running at home.

I don't quite see the significance of the server location? Ken used external hosting because it was convenient, I presume. You want to run it at home because it is convenient, I presume.

It is not the same requirement. A remote server has limitations in how you can put the files on the server, and what software you can install or need to install.

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Anyway, as somebody hinted earlier, we're really wayyyyy off-topic.

Well, digiKam (provided by openSUSE) offers to do it, which is why the idea of jAlbum came in. I thought then than jAlbum was provided with dikiKam, as part of openSUSE. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

kschneider bout-tyme.net

20:19

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - jAlbum

I used on a home server for personal use and on a hosting server for the club. As I said over 10 years, back when it was free to use. It basically did the same thing as Digicam. And quite honestly Carlos it is not our job evaluate the software to see if it fits you needs. Ken Schneider

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On Apr 17, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2023-04-17 17:19, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 16:14, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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Ken Schneider

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> I used jAlbum to create a photo gallery for a sailing club I > belonged to. Extremely easy to use and coupled with rsync little > bandwidth needed to keep the website up to date. I highly recommend > it.

Is the server living at your home?

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I used a hosting company for the web site. But I haven’t been a member for over 10 years and the new webmaster totally redesigned the website when I left the club.

Then it is not valid, because I seek only for solutions fully running at home. I don't quite see the significance of the server location? Ken used external hosting because it was convenient, I presume. You want to run it at home because it is convenient, I presume.

It is not the same requirement. A remote server has limitations in how you can put the files on the server, and what software you can install or need to install.

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Anyway, as somebody hinted earlier, we're really wayyyyy off-topic.

Well, digiKam (provided by openSUSE) offers to do it, which is why the idea of jAlbum came in. I thought then than jAlbum was provided with dikiKam, as part of openSUSE.

-- Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

Carlos E. R.

21:06

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - jAlbum

On 2023-04-17 22:19, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I used on a home server for personal use and on a hosting server for the club. As I said over 10 years, back when it was free to use. It basically did the same thing as Digicam. And quite honestly Carlos it is not our job evaluate the software to see if it fits you needs.

:-o Sorry that you think that way about me. I'm not asking for an evaluation or you to do my work... if, as have been said here by others, I need to obtain and pay a license, then it is out of the question. I do wonder, though, what exactly does digiKam, being free source. Does it install jAlbum? Or just creates a folder that then has to be sent to an existing jAlbum server? And why is this in the tools menu and not in the export menu? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Patrick Shanahan

18 Apr 18 Apr

00:10

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - jAlbum

* Carlos E. R. [04-17-23 17:07]:

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On 2023-04-17 22:19, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I used on a home server for personal use and on a hosting server for the club. As I said over 10 years, back when it was free to use. It basically did the same thing as Digicam. And quite honestly Carlos it is not our job evaluate the software to see if it fits you needs.

:-o

Sorry that you think that way about me. I'm not asking for an evaluation or you to do my work... if, as have been said here by others, I need to obtain and pay a license, then it is out of the question. I do wonder, though, what exactly does digiKam, being free source. Does it install jAlbum? Or just creates a folder that then has to be sent to an existing jAlbum server? And why is this in the tools menu and not in the export menu?

digikam and jalbum are completely different applications and not connected nor dependent on each other. digikam and jalbum with both create an album which may be placed on a server to display images. digikam is free and open source and jalbum is not. why is "what" in what tools menu rather than the export ment? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

Carlos E.R.

01:55

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On 2023-04-18 02:10, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E. R. [04-17-23 17:07]:

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On 2023-04-17 22:19, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I used on a home server for personal use and on a hosting server for the club. As I said over 10 years, back when it was free to use. It basically did the same thing as Digicam. And quite honestly Carlos it is not our job evaluate the software to see if it fits you needs.

:-o

Sorry that you think that way about me. I'm not asking for an evaluation or you to do my work... if, as have been said here by others, I need to obtain and pay a license, then it is out of the question. I do wonder, though, what exactly does digiKam, being free source. Does it install jAlbum? Or just creates a folder that then has to be sent to an existing jAlbum server? And why is this in the tools menu and not in the export menu?

digikam and jalbum are completely different applications and not connected nor dependent on each other.

digikam and jalbum with both create an album which may be placed on a server to display images. digikam is free and open source and jalbum is not.

why is "what" in what tools menu rather than the export ment?

"Create html gallery" command and "Create jAlbum gallery" are in the tools menu of digiKam. There is another main menu called "export" which exports to piwigo and a dozen other services. Why is not "Create jAlbum gallery" in the export menu? If you still don't understand, open digiKam and check the menus. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Patrick Shanahan

02:16

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* Carlos E.R. [04-17-23 21:57]:

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On 2023-04-18 02:10, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E. R. [04-17-23 17:07]:

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On 2023-04-17 22:19, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I used on a home server for personal use and on a hosting server for the club. As I said over 10 years, back when it was free to use. It basically did the same thing as Digicam. And quite honestly Carlos it is not our job evaluate the software to see if it fits you needs.

:-o

Sorry that you think that way about me. I'm not asking for an evaluation or you to do my work... if, as have been said here by others, I need to obtain and pay a license, then it is out of the question. I do wonder, though, what exactly does digiKam, being free source. Does it install jAlbum? Or just creates a folder that then has to be sent to an existing jAlbum server? And why is this in the tools menu and not in the export menu?

digikam and jalbum are completely different applications and not connected nor dependent on each other.

digikam and jalbum with both create an album which may be placed on a server to display images. digikam is free and open source and jalbum is not.

why is "what" in what tools menu rather than the export ment?

"Create html gallery" command and "Create jAlbum gallery" are in the tools menu of digiKam.

both create albums, *only*

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There is another main menu called "export" which exports to piwigo and a dozen other services.

piwigo serves your albums on the web, and creates them. understand that "creating and album" does not present (serve) them to the web.

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Why is not "Create jAlbum gallery" in the export menu?

it is not an "export" function but an album creation function.

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If you still don't understand, open digiKam and check the menus.

I have no problem understanding, it is clear. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

Per Jessen

04:58

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - jAlbum

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2023-04-17 22:19, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

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I used on a home server for personal use and on a hosting server for the club. As I said over 10 years, back when it was free to use. It basically did the same thing as Digicam. And quite honestly Carlos it is not our job evaluate the software to see if it fits you needs.

:-o

Sorry that you think that way about me. I'm not asking for an evaluation or you to do my work... if, as have been said here by others, I need to obtain and pay a license, then it is out of the question.

You only need to visit their website to discover that a free version is available, albeit with restrictions. It is the socalled "Freemium" model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemium

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I do wonder, though, what exactly does digiKam, being free source. Does it install jAlbum? Or just creates a folder that then has to be sent to an existing jAlbum server? And why is this in the tools menu and not in the export menu?

Some quick googling will show you that digiKam has a jAlbum plugin, enabling it to interface with jAlbum. I can only assume people would do this if they like to manage their photos with digiKam, but prefer to use jAlbum to publish. Maybe because jAlbum has a built-in ftp tool. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.5°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

kschneider bout-tyme.net

17 Apr 17 Apr

20:24

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - jAlbum

Ken Schneider

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On Apr 17, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

It is not the same requirement. A remote server has limitations in how you can put the files on the server, and what software you can install or need to install.

I had no limitations as the virtual server provided ran Linux (GoDaddy).

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Anyway, as somebody hinted earlier, we're really wayyyyy off-topic.

jdd＠dodin.org

10:35

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

Le 17/04/2023 à 12:23, gumb a écrit :

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On 17/04/2023 12:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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jAlbum

<snip>

Sounds great. Might have to look into it myself if I ever find the time to sort out 1000 other things first. I'd like to put some of my photos online painlessly but retain control over the copyrights and different users' access.

proprietary java thing, IMHO much worst than php... Piwigo is a pretty easy to manage gallery (needs mysql though and php), allows all sorts of permissions management but with raw digikam, if you sort your images with tags and folders respective to the date or the subject, new photos are probably related to a new folder, so easy to add to a collection. permissions is a problem, .htaccess is usable but not friendly jdd -- mon serveur usenet: dodin.fr.nf c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

Carlos E.R.

10:44

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

On 2023-04-17 12:35, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 17/04/2023 à 12:23, gumb a écrit :

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On 17/04/2023 12:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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jAlbum

<snip>

Sounds great. Might have to look into it myself if I ever find the time to sort out 1000 other things first. I'd like to put some of my photos online painlessly but retain control over the copyrights and different users' access.

proprietary java thing, IMHO much worst than php...

Ah. License New license model from version 13:[6][1] − You can purchase − (1) A Standard license to use on any computer to produce non-commercial albums for display on your own website, with one year of free support and updates. − (2) A Pro license to use on any computer to produce commercial or non-commercial albums for display on your own website, with one year of free support and updates. − (3) An annual license with unlimited free upgrades for as long as you have an active paid account for 10GB (Premium account non-commercial) or 100GB (Power account - commercial) of storage space on jalbum.net. ok, so you then need jAlbum installed separately. It is not just a set of files generated by digiKam.

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Piwigo is a pretty easy to manage gallery (needs mysql though and php), allows all sorts of permissions management

digiKam can export to Piwigo.

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but with raw digikam, if you sort your images with tags and folders respective to the date or the subject, new photos are probably related to a new folder, so easy to add to a collection. permissions is a problem, .htaccess is usable but not friendly

jdd

-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

jdd＠dodin.org

11:06

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - digiKam

Le 17/04/2023 à 12:44, Carlos E.R. a écrit :

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digiKam can export to Piwigo.

sure, but it can as well directly manage raw folders. Me upload my photos (tagged with digikam) with dolphin/fish and then sync them to piwigo jdd -- mon serveur usenet: dodin.fr.nf c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

Per Jessen

11:26

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Oh. I must explore this.

Careful, with it being written in Java, it might create too much load. :-) Your machine might suffer a melt down. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.6°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Reid Sutherland

12:49

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Wonder if all the noise is to get new people to leave? Worked. On 4/17/23 07:26, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Oh. I must explore this.

Careful, with it being written in Java, it might create too much load. :-) Your machine might suffer a melt down.

Carlos E. R.

13:36

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On 2023-04-17 13:26, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Oh. I must explore this.

Careful, with it being written in Java, it might create too much load. :-) Your machine might suffer a melt down.

I assumed that it is java running during the "compilation", which happens on my large desktop machine, not on the server, same as when digiKam generates the html share. Reading later, it may not be so. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

David Thorburn-Gundlach

18 Apr 18 Apr

03:27

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Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % On 2023-04-17 13:26, Per Jessen wrote: % > Carlos E. R. wrote: % > % > > Oh. % > > I must explore this. % > % > Careful, with it being written in Java, it might create too much % > load. :-) Your machine might suffer a melt down. % ... % Reading later, it may not be so. It will eat your kittens! :-) :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

David Thorburn-Gundlach

03:30

jdd & gumb, et al -- ...and then jdd@dodin.org said... % % may be you can give some tag to the selected file (the first time) to be % able to find them again afterward % % (for example tag:20230414-html) ...and then gumb said... % % Not been following this thread closely enough to know if I'm on quite the % same page, but in order to create a saved selection of photos, can you not % create a new folder containing symlinks to those photos? I just tested an [snip] Oooh! Two very good ideas. Thumbs up to each of you, and thanks! I just might use those myself. HANN :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

Per Jessen

17 Apr 17 Apr

10:01

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - vesiga

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Digikam has the appeal that it is a static webpage, thus trivial to put on Apache. Low CPU load on it, too, it doesn't run code.

Even if you are running your Apache on a 486dx2, unless you are running a popular local Instagrum, nobody is going to notice the "load". My own gallery is running on a Proliant DL380 G3, with two CPUs, at 2.4GHz. (shared with another 50 websites). Almost twenty years old.

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Caveats, several.

Adding a single photo means you have to generate the complete thing, from selecting the set of photos, to selecting the same theme and options, then sending it all, including the same photos to the server. It is just a few clicks, so it is easy.

The thumbnails and normal sized photos are generated "at compile time". Each time you do a change to the theme, they are generated again, so if your photo collection is large, that's a considerable time.

You can not add texts. Some of the themes can add a copyright and/or email address. Of course, you can edit the generated html files, but if you do a change at the "source", your mods are gone.

The generator takes automatically the caption that is already included in the exif data of each photo. Not the tittle, though.

Purely(!) for fun and because it is a half-holiday here in Zurich - with my amazing "vesiga": * adding photos means nothing, until somebody actually wants to see them. No clicks involved at all. * the thumbnails and normal sized photos are generated at runtime. If you change a photo, they are not automagically updated. (apache doesn't have a rewrite test for "file1 newer than file2"). * your photo collection can be as large as you want, it changes nothing. * you can add texts * I don't see any captions or titles in the exif data of my photos: https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/ffef5a03d92e -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

Carlos E.R.

10:18

New subject: [oS-en] Web photo gallery - vesiga

On 2023-04-17 12:01, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Digikam has the appeal that it is a static webpage, thus trivial to put on Apache. Low CPU load on it, too, it doesn't run code.

Even if you are running your Apache on a 486dx2, unless you are running a popular local Instagrum, nobody is going to notice the "load". My own gallery is running on a Proliant DL380 G3, with two CPUs, at 2.4GHz. (shared with another 50 websites). Almost twenty years old.

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Caveats, several.

Adding a single photo means you have to generate the complete thing, from selecting the set of photos, to selecting the same theme and options, then sending it all, including the same photos to the server. It is just a few clicks, so it is easy.

The thumbnails and normal sized photos are generated "at compile time". Each time you do a change to the theme, they are generated again, so if your photo collection is large, that's a considerable time.

You can not add texts. Some of the themes can add a copyright and/or email address. Of course, you can edit the generated html files, but if you do a change at the "source", your mods are gone.

The generator takes automatically the caption that is already included in the exif data of each photo. Not the tittle, though.

Purely(!) for fun and because it is a half-holiday here in Zurich - with my amazing "vesiga":

:-)

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* adding photos means nothing, until somebody actually wants to see them. No clicks involved at all.

* the thumbnails and normal sized photos are generated at runtime. If you change a photo, they are not automagically updated. (apache doesn't have a rewrite test for "file1 newer than file2").

* your photo collection can be as large as you want, it changes nothing.

* you can add texts

* I don't see any captions or titles in the exif data of my photos:

It is an option in digiKam. You create them. https://paste.opensuse.org/7acc76213ba9

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https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/ffef5a03d92e

-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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