[opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere. It appears that local government in his part of the world is only interested in negotiating with <youknowwho>, and the local Linux User Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-) /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
It appears that local government in his part of the world is only interested in negotiating with <youknowwho>, and the local Linux User Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-)
There is quite a bit of information here that might be useful... OpenOffice.org focused, but it does give a rather good snapshot of government agencies and private companies who are using OOo and Linux (including SUSE in many). http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
It appears that local government in his part of the world is only interested in negotiating with <youknowwho>, and the local Linux User Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-)
I seem to recall reading about the City of Bristol running OpenOffice. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
Could you be a little more specific? Which one did you mention already? There's a lot of different kinds of administration. Not that I can name more projects than you, probably. I only know from media not being involved into any of that. For local authorities: For me the city of munich was most present in the media. Their Projekt Limux became known because somehow (politically directed?) they discussed about software patents at some point. As far as I know they migrated the desktop of their mayor already. http://www.muenchen.de/Rathaus/referate/dir/limux/89256/ and in english http://www.muenchen.de/Rathaus/dir/limux/english/147197/index.html More silently the (much smaller) city Schwäbisch Hall switched. http://www.schwaebischhall.de/Linux.1630.0.html There's no state known which even has plans to migrate. According to the federal constitution in this level should be the biggest part of administrative tasks / personnel. I know from Berlin (which is a state and a local authority as well) that they discuss about. But not in an advanced stadium. On federal level there's the parliament administration on server side and the ministry of foreign affairs (the latter even run their notebooks on linux).
It appears that local government in his part of the world is only interested in negotiating with <youknowwho>, and the local Linux User Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-)
Same here in Germany, I think. They have to fulfill some tasks given by the state. I could imagine that that this includes the use of certain software. But there's a wide range of local self-administration. Maybe some communities migrated for this tasks but didn't make it public? It's nice seeing some local administrating opening their mind. But as long as there's no state (e.g. fiscal authorities, police, ...) changing there's no real progress. The states seem not to have the right touch for developing software so they probably think it's better to buy a "ready" system not to configure their own. Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards. Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are moving to open standards[1], FWIW. The Belgian government is there too[2]. This[3] Wikipedia page lists governments and other orgs which have adopted ODF which is exemplary of open standards which in turn open source arises from/facilitates. One nice thing about getting to open source through open standards is that the ODF folks have done most of the legwork acquiring a portfolio. :) JA [1] http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/forside/nyheder/pressemeddelelser/2007/... Sorry, Danish article. http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/press/important-political-pro... [2] http://www.belgif.be/index.php/Open_Document_Format_for_Office_Applications [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_adoption - -- http://www.DonAssad.com jabber ID: josef.assad@gmail.com Please consider the environment; do you really need to print out this e-mail? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRwdgFcf72sjD2+QRAoYLAJ9SPe20T98BRfk+q8ogZOAp4zRX6ACgpayR Cnh7+bZeW2IyBRvo8+7OOCM= =VdQY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, This may be useful: UNDP-APDIP International Open Source Network - http://www.iosn.net/ THK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
All these mentions of communities and agencies in other parts of the world adopting Linux enmasse is putting us Americans to shame. :-) Why can't we get that kind of adoption rate? :-( -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Nov 23, 2007 12:55 PM, Bryen <suseROCKS@bryen.com> wrote:
All these mentions of communities and agencies in other parts of the world adopting Linux enmasse is putting us Americans to shame. :-) Why can't we get that kind of adoption rate? :-(
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Bryen, The Atlanta public school system started experimenting with Linux a few years ago. I think they have several schools fully migrated. So it is happening even here. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Nov 23, 2007 12:55 PM, Bryen <suseROCKS@bryen.com> wrote:
All these mentions of communities and agencies in other parts of the world adopting Linux enmasse is putting us Americans to shame. :-) Why can't we get that kind of adoption rate? :-(
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Bryen, The Atlanta public school system started experimenting with Linux a few years ago. I think they have several schools fully migrated. So it is happening even here.
Greg -- Oh I agree that it is happening here as well. just not to the level of
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 13:00 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote: publicity and media attention as others. I know of several school districts that are supposedly doing it. Maybe we need to boost the media attention onto ourselves a little better?
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Fredag 23 november 2007 18:01 skrev Josef Assad:
Johannes Nohl wrote:
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.
Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are moving to open standards[1], FWIW.
The Belgian government is there too[2]. This[3] Wikipedia page lists governments and other orgs which have adopted ODF which is exemplary of open standards which in turn open source arises from/facilitates.
One nice thing about getting to open source through open standards is that the ODF folks have done most of the legwork acquiring a portfolio. :)
JA
[1] http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/forside/nyheder/pressemeddelelser/2007 /bred-aftale-om-aabne-standarder Sorry, Danish article. http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/press/important-political-pr ogress-for-open-standards [2] http://www.belgif.be/index.php/Open_Document_Format_for_Office_Applications [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_adoption
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Hi list, the danish parliament made it law on the 30th. of march 2006 to only allow,- as far as practically possible - the use of open standards in all public data exchange. The exact text, in danish, law no B103/30. march 2006 is here for reference: " Folketinget pålægger regeringen at sikre, at det offentliges brug af informationsteknologi, herunder brug af software, er baseret på åbne standarder. Regeringen bør senest den 1. januar 2008 indføre og vedligeholde et sæt af åbne standarder, der kan tjene til inspiration for øvrige offentlige myndigheder. Åbne standarder bør herefter være en del af grundlaget for det offentliges udvikling og indkøb af it-software med henblik på at fremme konkurrencen. Regeringen bør sikre, at alle digitale informationer og data, som det offentlige udveksler med borgere, virksomheder og institutioner, findes i formater, der er baseret på åbne standarder. " Now the wording of above was originally seen as quite weak by the OS community in Denmark. The actual implementation is however, growing. We do see advances in many places. First and foremost, most public web-sites may now be viewed using FF and others. All banks, although not covered by this lawtext, will now let customers use FF and others. Some public institutions will now recieve OO files. Certainly not all, but growing. Perhaps some other dane on this list will do a precise translation? If so, thank you in advance! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 www.os-academy.dk +45 5696 4223 Denmark. Download 660 sider Rute's Linux tutorial af Paul Sheer. En fantastisk LINUX lærebog, hent den fra www.os-academy.dk +===============================================================+ Powered by openSUSE 10.2 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.18.8-0.5-bigsmp KDE: 3.5.6 "release 25.2" 9:10pm oppe 4:27, 2 users, belastningennemsnit: 0,37, 0,20, 0,11 +===============================================================+ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fredag 23 november 2007 18:01 skrev Josef Assad:
Johannes Nohl wrote:
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.
Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are moving to open standards[1], FWIW.
<cut out> To all; do consider reading this: http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/information-and-communication... (yes, the link IS correct, even it doesn't look so :-)) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 21:21 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fredag 23 november 2007 18:01 skrev Josef Assad:
Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.
Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are moving to open standards[1], FWIW. To all; do consider reading this:
http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/information-and-communication... (yes, the link IS correct, even it doesn't look so :-))
If I read that right, it says systems must be able to read both ODF and OOXML and write either one (their choice). And the decision will be reconsidered in about two years. So not too decisive or brave then :) Still, it's a start. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
Many thanks to everyone who has contributed information - I've forwarded everything. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources, I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
Hi Per, I've just managed to read the start of the thread :) Here's a link that may be relevant to your original question: <http://software.silicon.com/os/0,39024651,39131293,00.htm> It's quite old - 2005 - but it mentions some specific organizations that use OSS and says: "A new laboratory has opened in Manchester that will allow government departments and local authorities to trial open source software in confidence in an independent test environment." It might be worth contacting the NCC <http://www.ncc.co.uk/> and the various councils that are mentioned. HTH, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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