-----Original Message----- From: Peter Flodin [mailto:pflodin@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:55 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] What does Novell Linux Desktop 10 have that I don't? On 2/8/06, Christoph Thiel <cthiel@suse.de> wrote:

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Peter Flodin wrote:

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Can someone explain what exactly I am seeing, I assume it is GNOME, but my desktop doesn't behave this way :-) , it is very Aqua (the Mac).

I guess you are seeing Xgl in actionn ;) Check out http://www.openSUSE.org/Xgl

Thank you Christoph. To the other responders: you obviously didn't look at the video it is a demonstration of a user moving windows that are transparent, and fluid like , ie if you grab the top of a window and move it sideways, the bottom will drag like it was a piece of cloth. Even a window playing a movie. When switching between desktops it is like the desktops are the faces of a cube and the cube is spun sideways, up and down to display the other desktops, all very neat and not very corporate, and not even very useful per se, but I can't wait to try to get Xgl working on my Beta 3 box. It will be so funny when Microsoft Vista finally ships, and it will look like last generation of desktops next to Linux and the Mac. An oh yeah.... Novell Linux Desktop http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/ is not SUSE Linux http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/ Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin Sounds like BeOS.... now there was a fun OS.

NLD targets enterprise customer with the following advantages: - Life cycle of the products [5 years] - Time between release X and release X+1 [2 years] where opensuse is [6 months] (Note: this is mandatory for hardware and software vendors to have enough time to certify their products on Linux). - Security Patches and updates guarnteed for 5 years. - Usually , if you purchased application X from vendor Y, He will give support only to the enterprise version [ Not always true ]. You will find detailed information about Novell Enterprise life Cycle in the following page: http://www.novell.com/products/linuxenterpriseserver/maintenance/lifecycle.h... Regards, Maged Hussein On 2/8/06, Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.de> wrote:

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Thank you Christoph.

To the other responders: you obviously didn't look at the video it is a demonstration of a user moving windows that are transparent, and fluid like , ie if you grab the top of a window and move it sideways, the bottom will drag like it was a piece of cloth. Even a window playing a movie. When switching between desktops it is like the desktops are the faces of a cube and the cube is spun sideways, up and down to display the other desktops, all very neat and not very corporate, and not even very useful per se, but I can't wait to try to get Xgl working on my Beta 3 box.

It will be so funny when Microsoft Vista finally ships, and it will look like last generation of desktops next to Linux and the Mac.

Since NLD10 and 10.1 share the same codebase, you likely will see parts of it.

Problem is that 10.1 will be ready way earlier than NLD10, so it might not be integrated yet.

Ciao, Marcus

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On 2/7/06, gonzlobo <gonzlobo@gmail.com> wrote:

As far as I know, the $$ version has something called Novell AppArmor. No I

AppArmor is a opensource(tm) tech. already, so the FREE version of SUSE Linux will has it too. don't use it (as most probably don't) either. You get a nice bound book too,

but is it worth $50+, probably not. Oh, having the distro on DVD is kinda cool, but it'll be obsolete once 10.1 comes out.

Use your online update. :) On 2/7/06, Peter Flodin <pflodin@gmail.com> wrote:

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I stumbled onto this video of a presentation of a Novell Technical Preview of Novell Linux Desktop 10

Can someone explain what exactly I am seeing, I assume it is GNOME, but my desktop doesn't behave this way :-) , it is very Aqua (the Mac).

http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10video/MVI_1951_bis.AVI (4Mb)

There are a few more in the same directory http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10video/

Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 08:39, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:

You're looking at an enterprise product with the eyes of a home user. You're thinking what would I get more out of this?

There is a lot of stuff to get but it's useful for company desktops. None of it will interest you on your home desktop.

Not necessarily... he may have a SOHO, running a small business or remote office. Hell, I do, I have a few businesses aside from my day job, and I'm kind of curious about it now.... Looking, I see virtually no difference in packages in terms of whats available. What I do see is support & the legal indemnification coverage. Am I about right? Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin