Hi, I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome. Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem. When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up. There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too. Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be? Best, Niels
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Problems with sddm Message-ID : <8E94B323-3541-4C7D-84E5-8F1606DDF9C3@kobschaetzki.net> Date & Time: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:46:10 +0200 [NK] == Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: NK> Hi, NK> I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced NK> my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. NK> I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I NK> installed Tumbleweed with Gnome. [...] NK> I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I NK> can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too. NK> Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be? I don't know how to debug, but sddm is on the severe side of dependencies. For now, please make sure that all libKF5 files are of the same version, including the minor version number. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" ... "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill --
You posted twice. On 2023-06-23 11:46, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
You are doing two changes at a time. Better do only one: either sddm or plasma. Not both. So, try gnome with sddm. How did you switch to sddm? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Problems with sddm Message-ID : <3c6c3090-6547-7cb9-b78f-60c6352fe751@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:23:19 +0200 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: [...] CER> > Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be? CER> You are doing two changes at a time. Better do only one: either sddm or CER> plasma. Not both. What's the problem? Both sddm and plasma5 have in common that they require a set of Qt5 files, but are otherwise unrelated to each other? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" ... "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill --
On 2023-06-23 12:59, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Problems with sddm Message-ID : <3c6c3090-6547-7cb9-b78f-60c6352fe751@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:23:19 +0200
[CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written:
[...] CER> > Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
CER> You are doing two changes at a time. Better do only one: either sddm or CER> plasma. Not both.
What's the problem?
Two problems to analyze at the same time. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> hat am 23.06.2023 12:23 CEST geschrieben:
You posted twice.
On 2023-06-23 11:46, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
You are doing two changes at a time. Better do only one: either sddm or plasma. Not both.
I saw kde/sddm and gnome/gdm as one thing and it worked in the past with other distributions.
So, try gnome with sddm.
The problem persists.
How did you switch to sddm?
According to documentation: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_Display_Manager sudo update-alternatives --config default-displaymanager Best, Niels
On 2023-06-23 13:02, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Carlos E. R. <> hat am 23.06.2023 12:23 CEST geschrieben:
You posted twice.
On 2023-06-23 11:46, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
You are doing two changes at a time. Better do only one: either sddm or plasma. Not both.
I saw kde/sddm and gnome/gdm as one thing and it worked in the past with other distributions.
No, any display manager must work with any desktop, on openSUSE. If one fails, just use another (and perhaps raise a bug).
So, try gnome with sddm.
The problem persists.
Please describe :-) We are not there, we don't have your eyes.
How did you switch to sddm?
According to documentation: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_Display_Manager
sudo update-alternatives --config default-displaymanager
Ok. There is a YaST module, too. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> hat am 23.06.2023 13:14 CEST geschrieben:
On 2023-06-23 13:02, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Carlos E. R. <> hat am 23.06.2023 12:23 CEST geschrieben:
You posted twice.
On 2023-06-23 11:46, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
You are doing two changes at a time. Better do only one: either sddm or plasma. Not both.
I saw kde/sddm and gnome/gdm as one thing and it worked in the past with other distributions.
No, any display manager must work with any desktop, on openSUSE. If one fails, just use another (and perhaps raise a bug).
So, try gnome with sddm.
The problem persists.
Please describe :-)
We are not there, we don't have your eyes.
The screen dims a bit and then it is just frozen. At some point I can switch to a tty
How did you switch to sddm?
According to documentation: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_Display_Manager
sudo update-alternatives --config default-displaymanager
Ok.
There is a YaST module, too.
My understanding is that it is doing essentially the same. Anyways, sddm works when I choose "Plasma (X11)" instead of "Plasma (Wayland)". So it seems that there is some problem between sddm and wayland. Niels
On 23.06.2023 14:21, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote: ...
So, try gnome with sddm.
The problem persists.
Please describe :-)
We are not there, we don't have your eyes.
The screen dims a bit and then it is just frozen. At some point I can switch to a tty
E-h-h which screen? Once again - you are using SDDM, you select GNOME session (which one? There is Wayland, there is X11) and then you see what you describe in the last sentence?
Anyways, sddm works when I choose "Plasma (X11)" instead of "Plasma (Wayland)". So it seems that there is some problem between sddm and wayland.
I vaguely recall similar posts on openSUSE forums but I think without any resolution. So what happens if you use different display manager (like GDM) instead of SDDM?
On 2023-06-23 13:34, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 23.06.2023 14:21, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote: ...
Anyways, sddm works when I choose "Plasma (X11)" instead of "Plasma (Wayland)". So it seems that there is some problem between sddm and wayland.
I vaguely recall similar posts on openSUSE forums but I think without any resolution. So what happens if you use different display manager (like GDM) instead of SDDM?
Just to stress the point, in openSUSE you can choose any display manager, and it must work with any desktop. Just choose the display manager that has the features you wants and that it works, and keep it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. @ 2023-06-23 13:37 :
[[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] On 2023-06-23 13:34, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 23.06.2023 14:21, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote: ...
Anyways, sddm works when I choose "Plasma (X11)" instead of "Plasma (Wayland)". So it seems that there is some problem between sddm and wayland.
I vaguely recall similar posts on openSUSE forums but I think without any resolution. So what happens if you use different display manager (like GDM) instead of SDDM?
Just to stress the point, in openSUSE you can choose any display manager, and it must work with any desktop. Just choose the display manager that has the features you wants and that it works, and keep it.
I can do so in Arch, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora etc. as well. But sddm is as far as I know the recommended display manager for Plasma. So I thought I use that, when I use Plasma. I also switch text editors from time to time even though they are not broken, or software for watching videos. Niels
Andrei Borzenkov @ 2023-06-23 14:34 :
On 23.06.2023 14:21, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote: ...
So, try gnome with sddm.
The problem persists.
Please describe :-)
We are not there, we don't have your eyes. The screen dims a bit and then it is just frozen. At some point I can switch to a tty
E-h-h which screen? Once again - you are using SDDM, you select GNOME session (which one? There is Wayland, there is X11) and then you see what you describe in the last sentence?
Gnome (Wayland)
Anyways, sddm works when I choose "Plasma (X11)" instead of "Plasma (Wayland)". So it seems that there is some problem between sddm and wayland.
I vaguely recall similar posts on openSUSE forums but I think without any resolution. So what happens if you use different display manager (like GDM) instead of SDDM?
When I use GDM I can log into the wayland-sessions of Gnome and Plasma; I cna´t with SDDM. Niels
Andrei Borzenkov @ 2023-06-23 15:27 :
On 23.06.2023 14:43, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
When I use GDM I can log into the wayland-sessions of Gnome and Plasma; I cna´t with SDDM.
Is SDDM itself running in X11 or Wayland?
Good question. How do I know that? I can´t find anything in the OpenSUSE-documentation. The Archwiki says that it runs in X11 but can start wayland-sessions. Niels
Niels Kobschätzki composed on 2023-06-23 16:59 (UTC+0200):
Andrei Borzenkov composed:
Is SDDM itself running in X11 or Wayland?
Good question. How do I know that? I can´t find anything in the OpenSUSE-documentation. The Archwiki says that it runs in X11 but can start wayland-sessions.
Try 'inxi -Gaz' using the current inxi version[1] or the one in Tumbleweed. 15.5's 3.3.23 version is 8 months old, might not include it. I never use Wayland, so can't test, but I've seen Wayland in inxi output from other users. [1] https://smxi.org/docs/inxi-installation.htm#inxi-manual-install -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2023-06-23 18:33, Felix Miata wrote:
Niels Kobschätzki composed on 2023-06-23 16:59 (UTC+0200):
Andrei Borzenkov composed:
Is SDDM itself running in X11 or Wayland?
Good question. How do I know that? I can´t find anything in the OpenSUSE-documentation. The Archwiki says that it runs in X11 but can start wayland-sessions.
Try 'inxi -Gaz' using the current inxi version[1] or the one in Tumbleweed. 15.5's 3.3.23 version is 8 months old, might not include it. I never use Wayland, so can't test, but I've seen Wayland in inxi output from other users.
How can you run inxi while on sddm? There is no desktop running yet.
[1] https://smxi.org/docs/inxi-installation.htm#inxi-manual-install
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. composed on 2023-06-23 20:27 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
Niels Kobschätzki composed on 2023-06-23 16:59 (UTC+0200):
Andrei Borzenkov composed:
Is SDDM itself running in X11 or Wayland?
Good question. How do I know that? I can´t find anything in the OpenSUSE-documentation. The Archwiki says that it runs in X11 but can start wayland-sessions.
Try 'inxi -Gaz' using the current inxi version[1] or the one in Tumbleweed. 15.5's 3.3.23 version is 8 months old, might not include it. I never use Wayland, so can't test, but I've seen Wayland in inxi output from other users.
How can you run inxi while on sddm? There is no desktop running yet.
1-Ctrl-Alt-Fn login 2-remote login 3-script that runs when X starts -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2023-06-24 00:49, Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2023-06-23 20:27 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
Niels Kobschätzki composed on 2023-06-23 16:59 (UTC+0200):
Andrei Borzenkov composed:
Is SDDM itself running in X11 or Wayland?
Good question. How do I know that? I can´t find anything in the OpenSUSE-documentation. The Archwiki says that it runs in X11 but can start wayland-sessions.
Try 'inxi -Gaz' using the current inxi version[1] or the one in Tumbleweed. 15.5's 3.3.23 version is 8 months old, might not include it. I never use Wayland, so can't test, but I've seen Wayland in inxi output from other users.
How can you run inxi while on sddm? There is no desktop running yet.
1-Ctrl-Alt-Fn login 2-remote login 3-script that runs when X starts
Ah, ok, doesn't have to run at the same "terminal". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Problems with sddm Message-ID : <302559309.1294438.1687519287927@office.mailbox.org> Date & Time: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:21:27 +0200 (CEST) [NK] == Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: [...] NK> Anyways, sddm works when I choose "Plasma (X11)" instead of NK> "Plasma (Wayland)". So it seems that there is some problem between NK> sddm and wayland. Check your wayland-session.log? Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money."
Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users @ 2023-06-23 11:46 :
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
I just could solve it. My login-shell was /usr/bin/fish. After switching to /usr/bin/bash sddm starts my wayland-sessions. Niels
On 2023-06-23 18:33, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users @ 2023-06-23 11:46 :
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
I just could solve it. My login-shell was /usr/bin/fish. After switching to /usr/bin/bash sddm starts my wayland-sessions.
I think you can now report this as a bug in bugzilla ;-) https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [Solved] Re: Problems with sddm Message-ID : <516bd61e-c96b-d97f-6b4e-2fc97b56ad77@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:28:46 +0200 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: CER> On 2023-06-23 18:33, Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote: [...] NK> > I just could solve it. My login-shell was /usr/bin/fish. After switching NK> > to /usr/bin/bash sddm starts my wayland-sessions. CER> I think you can now report this as a bug in bugzilla ;-) To upstream instead of bugzilla, then? I mean, it's a fish problem that shows up in Wayland + sddm. cf. https://forums.opensuse.org/t/cant-login-with-wayland-using-sddm-with-fish-s... Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" ... "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill --
On 2023-06-23 11:33:51 Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users wrote:
Niels Kobschätzki via openSUSE Users @ 2023-06-23 11:46 :
Hi,
I just migrated from Fedora 38 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and rsynced my home except .caches to the OpenSUSE-installation. I had once Plasma installed on Fedora but wasn’t happy with. I installed Tumbleweed with Gnome.
Now I wanted to try out Plasma again, installed it via zypper, switched to sddm from gdm and ran into a problem.
When I try to log in (Plasma Wayland) as my user sddm hangs after I entered my password. After quite a while I can switch to a tty while sddm seems to be frozen except that the mouse cursor turned up.
There is nothing in the journal. I deleted everything in .local/share and .config which might be KD/Plasma-related
I can log in through sddm as root and when I switch back to gdm I can log into Plasma (Wayland) as my user, too.
Any idea how to debug further or what the problem could be?
I just could solve it. My login-shell was /usr/bin/fish. After switching to /usr/bin/bash sddm starts my wayland-sessions.
Niels
I suppose that some routine in the SDDM startup assumes the bash shell will always be its environment. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64)
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