Op 30-10-12 00:55, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

* Oddball [10-29-12 18:09]:

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About the clock:

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25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[761]: Started sntp Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[761]: Error looking up 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Unable to resolve hostname(s) Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[765]: Started sntp Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[765]: Error looking up 1.opensuse.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Unable to resolve hostname(s) Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[766]: Started sntp Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[766]: Error looking up 2.opensuse.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Unable to resolve hostname(s) Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[769]: Started sntp Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: 25 Oct 16:56:30 sntp[769]: Error looking up 3.opensuse.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Unable to resolve hostname(s) Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Time could not be synchronized Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntpd[773]: ntpd 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Sep 19 09:31:04 UTC 2012 (1) Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntpd[775]: proto: precision = 2.445 usec and the lines: looking up 2.opensuse.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Unable to resolve hostname(s)

don't say anything to you.

Unable to resolve hostname(s)

perhaps there is "no such site".

Why don't you try a site that exists: nl.pool.ntp.org

I don't know where you got the idea that opensuse provided a public time server....

That is the standard setting, i never touched it, why should i, it always worked in 121? -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op 30-10-12 01:39, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

* Oddball [10-29-12 20:13]:

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Op 30-10-12 00:55, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

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Oct 25 16:56:30 EeePc-Rob-SFN9 ntp[723]: Unable to resolve hostname(s)

don't say anything to you.

Unable to resolve hostname(s)

perhaps there is "no such site".

Why don't you try a site that exists: nl.pool.ntp.org

I don't know where you got the idea that opensuse provided a public time server....

That is the standard setting, i never touched it, why should i, it always worked in 121? I guess it is me, but I cannot ping 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org from my desktop, although I can from a VBox client that desktop hosts. I use [0-3].us.pool.ntp.org. I suggest you try substituting nl.pool.ntp.org for opensuse.ntp.org within your /etc/ntp.conf and restart the time server, rcntp restart or systemctl restart ntp.service (as root).

then check to see they work: ntpq ntpq> opeers

EeePc-Rob-SFN9:/home/oddball # systemctl restart ntp.service EeePc-Rob-SFN9:/home/oddball # ntpq ntpq> opeers remote local st t when poll reach delay offset disp ============================================================================== LOCAL(0) 127.0.0.1 10 l 41 64 1 0.000 0.000 7937.50 +0.nl.pool.ntp.o 192.168.2.3 2 u 30 64 1 20.414 -0.126 187.608 +ntp2.sinew.nl 192.168.2.3 2 u 29 64 1 20.690 -2.157 187.543 +ntp.raqxs.nl 192.168.2.3 2 u 28 64 1 19.029 -0.089 187.565 *ntp1.mediamatic 192.168.2.3 2 u 28 64 1 20.309 -0.325 187.539 ntpq> The yast module now works (!), (which is cool, thnx..;-) but the KDE module has europe.pool.ntp, and does not. So change settings conveniently from the clock? Forget it. Do you by accident know where the kde timt date module stores/looks for the server addresses? -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Oddball [10-30-12 04:09]:

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EeePc-Rob-SFN9:/home/oddball # systemctl restart ntp.service EeePc-Rob-SFN9:/home/oddball # ntpq ntpq> opeers remote local st t when poll reach delay offset disp ============================================================================== LOCAL(0) 127.0.0.1 10 l 41 64 1 0.000 0.000 7937.50 +0.nl.pool.ntp.o 192.168.2.3 2 u 30 64 1 20.414 -0.126 187.608 +ntp2.sinew.nl 192.168.2.3 2 u 29 64 1 20.690 -2.157 187.543 +ntp.raqxs.nl 192.168.2.3 2 u 28 64 1 19.029 -0.089 187.565 *ntp1.mediamatic 192.168.2.3 2 u 28 64 1 20.309 -0.325 187.539 ntpq>

The yast module now works (!), (which is cool, thnx..;-) but the KDE module has europe.pool.ntp, and does not. So change settings conveniently from the clock? Forget it. Do you by accident know where the kde timt date module stores/looks for the server addresses? Don't have *any* idea what KDE module you are referring. I have always set/adjusted ntp via editing /etc/ntp.conf. I can ping europe.pool.... from here but it is simple to set a different address and they do not all need to be from the same pool, 0.pool.ntp.org will work as will es/po/it/.

Read the explanation of ntp and pool on google. europe.pool.ntp.org is amongst others, from the dropdownlist, when you rightclick on the clock in the taskbar: adapt date and time. The kde config module opens, does it not on you box? It is a gui, for people

Op 30-10-12 14:27, Patrick Shanahan schreef: that are not familiar or dont want to use cli. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.2 "release 511" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op 30-10-12 15:09, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

OK, guess I have not ever had the need or inclination as it to me is very simple to edit /etc/ntp.conf

As is usually the case, the pools are suggestions and not exclusive and some may not work for you, just at you say the green gecko screen should not be. You are not adverse to changing *many* other configuration items without knowledge of the consequences, why the hangup on using the suggested sites?

What exactly do you mean? A user, like myself, would like to believe, that when he wants to change something, the tools provided for the job, are actually working. I am kinda used to that idea. So when these tools do not, they become, maybe, 'over-important', or seem to others, (with the right on their own opinion), that what i like to achieve is not that important in their eyes, which is np at all for me. ;-) I would vey much like to know, how to change a 'brand' to something i like more. And it is nothing more than an image, i want to change. I would really like the login-theme switcher would work, or how to change it otherwise. But nobody can give me an answer that actually works. So the only thing left is try to find out myself, or, stay stuck with the damn pic. Thas all.

ps: it does look better that your posts are chronologically aligned with everyone elses. <:^)

Of course, try using skype with date and time wrongly adjusted..lol. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.2 "release 511" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-10-29 02:10, Oddball wrote:

That is the standard setting, i never touched it, why should i, it always worked in 121?

cer@minas-tirith:~> host opensuse.pool.ntp.org Host opensuse.pool.ntp.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) cer@minas-tirith:~> That domain does not exist. If yast configured it, report as bug. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlCQI9wACgkQja8UbcUWM1xOlAD9Hntm/nCFKL9CzzzUSuRUh2P2 kNMocA/xuEjMmbDXH78A/AvNgvfWQXol0/+y9ME/7pABOaL7//DX+uqKuywNhC3C =1xb/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op 30-10-12 20:08, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

* Carlos E. R. [10-30-12 15:04]:

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On 2012-10-29 02:10, Oddball wrote:

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That is the standard setting, i never touched it, why should i, it always worked in 121? cer@minas-tirith:~> host opensuse.pool.ntp.org Host opensuse.pool.ntp.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) cer@minas-tirith:~>

That domain does not exist. If yast configured it, report as bug. But: 15:07 Crash: ~ > host 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 206.212.241.146 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 64.95.243.61 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 173.8.103.251 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 50.116.27.42

I think for some reason just his system cannot reach it.... But he has *other* probs...

I do not need these, your suggestion about nl.pool.ntp.org works, so *this* prob is solved. ;-) -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-4-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.2 "release 511" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op 30-10-12 20:24, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

btw, what does "rpm -qa kdelibs3*" on your system show?

oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9:~> rpm -qa kdelibs3* kdelibs3-default-style-3.5.10-64.1.2.i586 kdelibs3-3.5.10-64.1.2.i586 oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9:~> -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-4-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.2 "release 511" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op 10/31/2012 9:08 PM, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

* Oddball [10-31-12 03:53]:

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Op 30-10-12 20:24, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

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btw, what does "rpm -qa kdelibs3*" on your system show? oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9:~> rpm -qa kdelibs3* kdelibs3-default-style-3.5.10-64.1.2.i586 kdelibs3-3.5.10-64.1.2.i586 oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9:~> So *you* installed some kde3.

lol, yes. :-D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/30/2012 03:08 PM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

* Carlos E. R. [10-30-12 15:04]:

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On 2012-10-29 02:10, Oddball wrote:

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That is the standard setting, i never touched it, why should i, it always worked in 121?

cer@minas-tirith:~> host opensuse.pool.ntp.org Host opensuse.pool.ntp.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) cer@minas-tirith:~>

That domain does not exist. If yast configured it, report as bug.

But: 15:07 Crash: ~ > host 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 206.212.241.146 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 64.95.243.61 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 173.8.103.251 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org has address 50.116.27.42

I think for some reason just his system cannot reach it.... But he has *other* probs...

opensuse.pool.ntp.org <> 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org