Jonathan Drews wrote:

The manual is at:

http://manual.gimp.org/download/

On Tuesday 03 April 2001 21:37, you wrote:

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Hi everyone, After trying to live with Corel Photopaint 9 for LINUX for a while, I decided I just should learn the GIMP, since it has most likely more of a future, and furthermore, is much faster under Linux. So, that leaves me trying to figure out where all of my favorite stuff is. For instance, what has me stumped right now is creating rectangles. All I would like to do is create a rectagular object - is this possible with the GIMP? For those who aren't quite sure of what I mean, I mean a rectangle that "floats" above the document (as an object) rather than one that is painted directly on the page. This makes it possible to resize it, delete it, move it behind other objects (such as text), etc.

You basically want to make sure you save in GIMP's native fileformat, xcf, however I am not sure if you mean the File--> Dialogs--> Layers and channels option? There and with the right click is all the interesting stuff. -- Cheers, Joost van der Lugt mailto:jvdl@sirius.com

At 08:09 AM 4/4/2001 CEST, Koos Pol wrote:

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:12:51 -0500, Jonathan Drews said:

| The manual is at: | | http://manual.gimp.org/download/

What is "Grokking_the_GIMP" ?

You can even choose to install "Grokking_the_GIMP" from the doc section.

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Hi James, Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have to check some of them out. I already looked at KIllustrator, although I think actually Krayon (formerly K Image Shop) might be better - that should be out with KOffice 1.1 later this year. I'll try the other ones of now though. Perhaps one of them would be a good Photopaint replacement. Thanks again, Tim On Wednesday 04 April 2001 08:55 am, you wrote:

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On April 3, 2001 11:37 pm, Timothy R.Butler wrote:

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Hi everyone, After trying to live with Corel Photopaint 9 for LINUX for a while, I decided I just should learn the GIMP, since it has most likely more of a future, and furthermore, is much faster under Linux. So, that leaves me trying to figure out where all of my favorite stuff is. For instance, what has me stumped right now is creating rectangles. All I would like to do is create a rectagular object - is this possible with the GIMP? For those who aren't quite sure of what I mean, I mean a rectangle that "floats" above the document (as an object) rather than one that is painted directly on the page. This makes it possible to resize it, delete it, move it behind other objects (such as text), etc.

That functionality is basically beyond the scope of the GIMP. Think of the GIMP more as PhotoPaint on steroids. There is Gfig in the GIMP, but I wouldn't really use that for creating objects like I would in Corel. (yes, I have CorelDraw for Linux but I haven't used it in a long time)

If you need CorelDraw capability there are a number of programs for doing this:

xfig: I really like this program, though you kind of have to get used to it. I wouldn't use it to create marketing materials or anything, though, unless I really mess around with it in the GIMP. I use it pretty much exclusively for diagramming (classes, networks, etc).

Sketch: I haven't used this, though I hear it's really good and the screenshots are impressive. (hey, it's Python. Have you seen crappy Python software?)

TkDraw: I haven't used this either.

KIllustrator: This is very close to CorelDraw, so I'd recommend this for more flashy things.

StarOffice Draw: I haven't used this much, but I am quite impressed with it, espcially for it's flashy graphics capabilities.

Of course, you can still use the GIMP to touch up and convert any graphic you make with any of these other programs.

Hope that helps,

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But there is a figure creator in the GIMP? Is that located within the main part of the program, or is Gfig something deperate? For the most part, as I said, I'm looking for a replacement for Corel PhotoPaint, not Corel Draw, so all I really need is to be able to easily create rectangles and circles. :-)

It's part of GIMP itself. Here's a basic rundown: - - Create a new image or load one - - Right click on the image and select Filters | Render | Gfig... - - You can create objects or load predefined ones - - In the lower right corner you can select a lot of options - I recommend setting "draw on" to new so that it creates a new, independent layer - Select your your brush, brush options, etc - - Click "Paint" at the bottom and your objects will be painted onto your image It's actually pretty cool, and quite powerful. Alternatively, you can use something like Sketch in conjunction with the GIMP. The right solution depends on the situation. If you're going to create a bunch of objects and then do GIMP effects, try using Sketch first. If you want to iteratively do things (create figure, use effect, create figure, etc.), then Gfig is probably the right tool. Remember, of course, that layers are your friend. :-)* - -- James Oakley Engineering - SolutionInc Ltd. joakley@solutioninc.com http://www.solutioninc.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6zKQ0+FOexA3koIgRAnrRAKCzag1ka3P9I5KoyRgh/RNZGBA+8wCeIXT3 lf8aMS+RmoVhRWsUacZD3+8= =rI4W -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On April 5, 2001 10:36 pm, Timothy R.Butler wrote:

However, since PP still works _okay_, and I plan to purchase Win4Lin 3.0, I can continue to use PP7 and PP9 while I learn the GIMP and Sketch. I suppose it never hurts to have more "toys," eh? <vbg>

CorelDraw 9 is available for Linux. You don't need Win4Lin. I have it here on my desk, but I haven't installed it on my 7.1 installation, yet. It works quite well, and integrates fairly nicely into the UNIX way of doing things. (home directories, directory structure, etc) - -- James Oakley Engineering - SolutionInc Ltd. joakley@solutioninc.com http://www.solutioninc.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6zbzC+FOexA3koIgRAoZoAJ4gyxsFQQN8eLjm3Hg3dgQY3ImVOQCfTQqs T/tW4pYZEBqPIgBtXn/IJDM= =KGZ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----