Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic. What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model). Almost all that seem to be in the local shop are using that super pci wotsit, but I'm about 3yrs out of date with my motherboard and haven't been keeping up with developments (so can't even remember the name of the new slot standard...) -- ------------------------------------------------------------- "When the multitude detests a man, inquiry is necessary; when the multitude likes a man, inquiry is equally necessary." Confucius, Analects (circa 6th century BC) Or more pertinently: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin
On Friday 28 April 2006 16:34, M.Blackmore wrote:
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic.
Hi M, First, you've omitted most of the details that might help other subscribers understand and help with your problem (mainboard make/model, retail or OSS, etc.?) Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,) whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...) Have you seen these instructions?: http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html Carl
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 17:02 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
First, you've omitted most of the details that might help other subscribers understand and help with your problem (mainboard make/model, retail or OSS, etc.?) I've tried everything over many months with this system - including tips from earlier threads months ago, as pthers have also reported difficulties with fx5500 and 5200 chipsets
Being on a limited income due to disability now, I can't afford to make a wrong choice again, hence request for guidance to a card with reliable drivers! I got it working once, not sure how - I was floundering around poking into anything by that time of night after many attempts over a few weeks. Then disk died so had to reinstall and total lack of success since. So I didn't bother anyone with details - just said I give up. It ain't gonna work.
Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,) whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...)
Oh my time has run on, this was the release/beta when I started on building up a new system.. yikes
Have you seen these instructions?:
Oh yes, indeedy. Yup. And err...
Carl
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On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:02:28PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,)
No. opensuse-factory is for that. opensuse is to talk about the opensuse community.
whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...)
That is correct. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau
On Friday 28 April 2006 17:47, houghi wrote:
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:02:28PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,)
No. opensuse-factory is for that. opensuse is to talk about the opensuse community.
Thanks for the reminder, Houghi, I'd forgotten about the additions. - Carl
M.Blackmore wrote:
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic.
What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model).
Almost all that seem to be in the local shop are using that super pci wotsit, but I'm about 3yrs out of date with my motherboard and haven't been keeping up with developments (so can't even remember the name of the new slot standard...)
The nvidia are the best supported cards I've seen for linux, by far. They work hard to keep their linux drivers up to date, and they are responsive to the user community. They certainly keep earning my business. I've currently got a number of laptops and workstations with various nvidia graphics adapters, running suse 9.3, 10.0 and 10.1 beta, and in every case the graphics capabilities are top notch, and in fact a sine qua non for ut2004, quake 4, and all the cool xgl desktop eye candy effects on 10.1. As for ATI, their linux support is getting better, but clearly, they are not yet on par with nvidia. As a previous poster mentioned, some additional information could shed light on your problem. Have you tried the nvidia forums? They're quite helpful there. If not, I'll take the nvidia card off your hands - Joe
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic.
What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model).
Well... from long experience with SUSE and nVidia and ATI video cards, I'll never willing use an ATI card. They are a total nightmare. I'd highly recommend nVidia again despite your problems. I've had a 5200FX working very nicely in SUSE for several years, and have recently and very painlessly upgraded to an nVidia 6600GT. I've also recently had an ATI9250, and while I was able to get it to work, it never worked properly. If you need soem help setting up your existing nVidia card, just ask... there's loads of us on the list here that use nVidia and are very pleased with the results... and with how easy it usualy is to set up. C.
On Saturday 29 April 2006 02:01, Clayton wrote:
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic.
What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model).
Well... from long experience with SUSE and nVidia and ATI video cards, I'll never willing use an ATI card. They are a total nightmare. I'd highly recommend nVidia again despite your problems. I've had a 5200FX working very nicely in SUSE for several years, and have recently and very painlessly upgraded to an nVidia 6600GT.
I've also recently had an ATI9250, and while I was able to get it to work, it never worked properly.
If you need soem help setting up your existing nVidia card, just ask... there's loads of us on the list here that use nVidia and are very pleased with the results... and with how easy it usualy is to set up.
C.
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And my experience has been just the opposite Clayton. The NVidia cards have been a nightmare for me, but I've yet to have a burp with any of the ATI cards I've used, installed or recommended. Even using the ATI drivers now have become quite simple to install and setup, although since most of the cards are supported natively in X.org, it's very seldom you need to use their drivers, unlike nVidia, to get 3d. I doubt there has been a single nVidia card user or very few that hasn't had to get help on the suse-e list. But still no matter what we've experienced, the OP will have to make up his own mind as to what he wants to try. No matter what the user decides, it will always be a hit or miss thing, you just hope for the best sometimes. Regards, Lee
And my experience has been just the opposite Clayton. The NVidia cards have been a nightmare for me
This is cannot understand... no really I can't, at least not in the last... say... 1 or 2 years.... since SUSE has been providing the nVidia driver in YOU. Setting up an nVdida card for basic use (ie single monitor with 3GL enabled) has been a no brainer on install. I have done it dozens of times on dozens of machines. In contrast, ATI has been a total nightmare. We used to use ATI where I work - a 100% Linux company. Not one of the developers was able to get the ATI card to set up correctly. We are not talking a bunch of Linux newbies here... this is a team of highly skilled developers that know their Linux inside and out. One lucky guy in the team got an nVidia card by mistake (IT dept ordered it instead of ATI for some reason). He fired up his new computer and installed Linux... and was up and running within a hour from a bare machine. Meanwhile the rest of us poor sods with ATI were still figting the broken ATI installer, wading our way though crap documentation from ATI.. swearing a lot. We finally did get the ATI machines working, but only barely, and they are so fragile it is ridiculous. Every time you make the slightest change to the system.. bam, you're down to run level 3 until you figure out why the video has broken. Everyone finally got so fed up with the ATI cards they were all tossed in the trash and nVidias were installed. 2 minutes after boot, all systems were up and running with full 3GL and no video problems at all anymore. I honestly have yet to see (personally) a single case of an ATI card actually working correctly in Linux (and this is over 8 years of full time Linux use and support).
doubt there has been a single nVidia card user or very few that hasn't had to get help on the suse-e list.
This may be true from 3 years or more ago, but now...?? It's a rare person with problems with nVidia. C.
Am Sonntag, 30. April 2006 13:54 schrieb Clayton:
I honestly have yet to see (personally) a single case of an ATI card actually working correctly in Linux (and this is over 8 years of full time Linux use and support).
does a 5 years old atri rage mobility m3 count? basically the laptop version of a rage128, 8megs ram, 3d support (within the limits of what that chip can do) is working flawlessly. but as soon as we're talking radeon, I agree 110%. bye, MH
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 22:34 schrieb M.Blackmore:
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic.
What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model).
Almost all that seem to be in the local shop are using that super pci wotsit, but I'm about 3yrs out of date with my motherboard and haven't been keeping up with developments (so can't even remember the name of the new slot standard...)
I have on my machines here: nVidia GeForce Ti4600 - no problems, automatically recognised, automatically set-up and automatic download of nVidia drivers through YOU nVidia GeForce FX5700LE - no problems, automatically recognised, automatically set-up and automatic download of nVidia drivers through YOU nVidia GeForce FX5900XT - no problems, automatically recognised, automatically set-up and automatic download of nVidia drivers through YOU nVidia GeForce FX6600GT - no problems, automatically recognised, automatically set-up and automatic download of nVidia drivers through YOU SiS laptop chipset circa 2000 - no problems, automatically recognised, automatically set-up. ATi Mobility X700 - automatically recognised, doesn't set-up to a usable configuration, must download and install ATi drivers before any graphics environment can be used, need to manually re-install display driver after Kernel updates, no 3D support, a total PITA... Thinking of throwing away a perfectly good laptop and replacing it with either a nVidia based laptop or a MacBook Pro... -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
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