Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus. -- Roger Oberholtzer
On 2021-01-22 09:06, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus.
I can't say for your setup but I've got Jabra 75t (had Jabra 65t before) and they're working fine with my ThinkPad X1 Carbon 4th and Tumbleweed as we speak. I haven't used Teams but I checked with Skype now and made a test call and it was without problems. I use them rarely with my laptop. Hope that helps. -- /bengan
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 10:29, Bengt Gördén wrote:
On 2021-01-22 09:06, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus.
I can't say for your setup but I've got Jabra 75t (had Jabra 65t before) and they're working fine with my ThinkPad X1 Carbon 4th and Tumbleweed as we speak. I haven't used Teams but I checked with Skype now and made a test call and it was without problems. I use them rarely with my laptop. Hope that helps.
When you say they work without issues, how do you mean that? For me, i'm using Gnome specifically because i can easily change the headset profile of my Bose QC35 II from 'High Fidelity Playback' which has no microphone but better sound quality to profile 'Headset Head Unit' with the extension 'Sound Output & Input Device Chooser' [1] But then again I use MS Teams on a Windows 10 VM via VirtualBox. Does your headphone change the profile automatically? BR, Syds
-- /bengan
[1] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/906/sound-output-device-chooser/
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:50 AM Syds Bearda <opensuse@syds.eu> wrote:
Hi,
On 2021-01-22 09:06, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth
generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it,
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 10:29, Bengt Gördén wrote: headset. I that is a plus.
I can't say for your setup but I've got Jabra 75t (had Jabra 65t before)
and
they're working fine with my ThinkPad X1 Carbon 4th and Tumbleweed as we speak. I haven't used Teams but I checked with Skype now and made a test call and it was without problems. I use them rarely with my laptop. Hope that helps.
When you say they work without issues, how do you mean that?
For me, i'm using Gnome specifically because i can easily change the headset profile of my Bose QC35 II from 'High Fidelity Playback' which has no microphone but better sound quality to profile 'Headset Head Unit' with the extension 'Sound Output & Input Device Chooser' [1]
But then again I use MS Teams on a Windows 10 VM via VirtualBox.
The Teams client for Linux has been working fine for me. Video, lots of users in a meeting, shared desktops have all worked without a problem. The only issue has been my microphone quality. Maybe I have missed some configuration to make it better. I generally do not use a microphone. My current method is to join Teams meeting both on my laptop (Linux app) and on my phone. I use the phone for audio (the microphone being the reason for the phone). It actually works very well. But I want to ditch the telephone... -- Roger Oberholtzer
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 11:21, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:50 AM Syds Bearda <opensuse@syds.eu> wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 10:29, Bengt Gördén wrote:
On 2021-01-22 09:06, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus.
I can't say for your setup but I've got Jabra 75t (had Jabra 65t before) and they're working fine with my ThinkPad X1 Carbon 4th and Tumbleweed as we speak. I haven't used Teams but I checked with Skype now and made a test call and it was without problems. I use them rarely with my laptop. Hope that helps.
When you say they work without issues, how do you mean that?
For me, i'm using Gnome specifically because i can easily change the headset profile of my Bose QC35 II from 'High Fidelity Playback' which has no microphone but better sound quality to profile 'Headset Head Unit' with the extension 'Sound Output & Input Device Chooser' [1]
But then again I use MS Teams on a Windows 10 VM via VirtualBox.
The Teams client for Linux has been working fine for me. Video, lots of users in a meeting, shared desktops have all worked without a problem.
The only issue has been my microphone quality. Maybe I have missed some configuration to make it better. I generally do not use a microphone.
My current method is to join Teams meeting both on my laptop (Linux app) and on my phone. I use the phone for audio (the microphone being the reason for the phone). It actually works very well. But I want to ditch the telephone...
Yeah that's how I usually join the meetings too, however some meeting don't allow me to transfer the sound to my phone.. So for those times i have a wired Jabra Evolve 20 SE MS and just use the mic of that. Which also helps as the people on the meeting can totally hear the other people around me when i'm using my Bose. /Syds
-- Roger Oberholtzer
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
The Teams client for Linux has been working fine for me. Video, lots of users in a meeting, shared desktops have all worked without a problem.
The only issue has been my microphone quality. Maybe I have missed some configuration to make it better. I generally do not use a microphone.
In the early beginning, sometime early last year, I also had trouble with the microphone on Skype. It turned out to be some iasue about it being a stereo microphone, although it was clearly a mono headset. 'pavucontrol' sorted that one out. Sinced then, I have mostly relied on the built-in microphone in the Microsoft Livecam (I think it is). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland.
On 2021-01-22 10:50, Syds Bearda wrote:
When you say they work without issues, how do you mean that?
Standard setup. But probably using the internal mic. See below.
For me, i'm using Gnome specifically because i can easily change the headset profile of my Bose QC35 II from 'High Fidelity Playback' which has no microphone but better sound quality to profile 'Headset Head Unit' with the extension 'Sound Output & Input Device Chooser' [1]
Your right. The same for me. I might have used the built in mic first. Got it working through HSP/HFP. The A2DP was high fidelity and had no mic.
But then again I use MS Teams on a Windows 10 VM via VirtualBox.
Does your headphone change the profile automatically?
No. Didn't know this before but I fiddle around with it now and got it working manually with pavucontrol and pulsevolume in the tray (switching between HSP/HFP and A2DP). Made another test call to skype and it worked as it should with HSP/HFP (speaker and mic from bt headset). I tried to get it to switch automatically but couldn't get it to work correctly. There is a suggestion to get things to switch streams from one virtual unit to another with pulseaudio-module-gsettings installed but I didn't test that. -- /bengan
On 2021-01-22 10:50, Syds Bearda wrote:
Does your headphone change the profile automatically?
Reading a bit further it might be possible to switch depending on "auto_switch" in module-bluetooth-policy set to 1 or 2. https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modu... In /etc/pulse/default.pa load-module module-bluetooth-policy auto_switch=1 or load-module module-bluetooth-policy auto_switch=2 The heuristics seems to be like this: * does not have set media.role * does not use peak resample method (which is used by desktop volume programs) * has assigned client/application (non virtual stream) * does not record from monitor of sink https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/commit/3397127f0045d3... -- /bengan
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 12:39, Bengt Gördén wrote:
On 2021-01-22 12:26, Bengt Gördén wrote:
load-module module-bluetooth-policy auto_switch=2
Tested now. It switched automatically from A2DP to HSP/HFP when starting skype and the test call was using the bt mic. When I turned of skype it switched back to A2DP.
Thanks for the tip, for me auto_switch=2 does not auto switch back after the call has ended in the VM. but with 1 i can choose the different profile again. /Syds
-- /bengan
On 22/01/2021 09.06, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus.
Can't say about your setup, but I tried a BT headset with mike on Leap 15.1+Gnome+Jitsi, and the result was crap. Lots of noise. I would have to try again in order to describe exactly. So you will have to try to know whether it works or not for you. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:54 AM Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
Can't say about your setup, but I tried a BT headset with mike on Leap 15.1+Gnome+Jitsi, and the result was crap. Lots of noise. I would have to try again in order to describe exactly. So you will have to try to know whether it works or not for you.
That sounds like what my internal microphone was like. So perhaps it's not the microphone but Teams. I need to see if I can borrow a headset from someone... -- Roger Oberholtzer
On 22/01/2021 11.16, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:54 AM Carlos E. R. <>> wrote:
Can't say about your setup, but I tried a BT headset with mike on Leap 15.1+Gnome+Jitsi, and the result was crap. Lots of noise. I would have to try again in order to describe exactly. So you will have to try to know whether it works or not for you.
That sounds like what my internal microphone was like. So perhaps it's not the microphone but Teams.
No, this noise of mine is different, generated by software. The internal mikes often capture vibration noise from the fans or hard disks.
I need to see if I can borrow a headset from someone...
Good idea. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative.
<may not apply> My wife is very happy with the BT headset I gave her for Christmas, a Free Voice Space Stereo with charging station. She uses that all day in the office and frequently also for binge-watching something or other on Netflux. </> She uses Mac and Windows. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.1°C)
Dne pátek 22. ledna 2021 9:06:17 CET, Roger Oberholtzer napsal(a):
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus.
I haven't try BT, but Jabra SPEAK 410 or 510 (I don't have it here), which is connected via USB, perfectly working with all buttons, clear sound in whole room. I tried with Hangouts in Chromium. With Teams I had conflicts that if Skype started after Teams, Skype didn't see any microphone as it was "occupied" by Teams. Some Microsoft dark magic obviously involved. ;-) Otherwise both are working well. -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/
Hi, Am 22.01.21 um 09:06 schrieb Roger Oberholtzer:
Has anyone tried a headset like the Jabra Evolve 65 with Tumbleweed? I need a headset for things like Teams, and I am considering this Bluetooth headset. I generally do not use Bluetooth, so I'm not sure how well it is working with things like this. My laptop's built-in microphone is pretty crappy (very bad quality sound), so I am looking for an alternative. And there is the disturbance factor. My laptop does not have any standard USB ports, so I am trying not to get devices that need this. An adapter is ok. But if I can avoid it, that is a plus.
-- Roger Oberholtzer
Sorry for sending first mail direct to you) installed 2 different headsets at christmas time for this year at tumbleweed: Art.-Bez.: Logitech G935 Wireless-Headset schwarz Stückpreis: 146,54 Euro gamer headset, needs a small utility (from github?) to set up some adjustments. if intererested i have to look for it. rest plug and play. (not bluetooth, but some other whireless technics) Art.-Bez.: Logitech Zone Wireless Bluetooth-Headset grau Stückpreis: 150,42 Euro more for video converences, also nice because drivers for a lot of smartphones come with that. most andjustment only over smartphones possible, but standart is working "plug and play" both where used in games and jitsi and discord (home-school) simoN -- www.becherer.de
Hi Roger, there seems to be a general problem in the (desktop) Linux BT-Pulseaudio audio stack, which is being worked on right now [1], where high-quality audio codecs are not available in headset mode. On Tumbleweed, I have these issues (HHU mode with crappy quality and A2DP mode with no mic) with all available BT headsets (Sony WH-1000XM3, Method Wireless, Marshall Mid), so I can't really recommend any good solution right now except for possibly building and using HEAD Pulseaudio and Gstreamer and hoping that it works for you. HTH Dimitri [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/440
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