Running SUSE 10.0 with a geforce 6600 video card which has the facility to run two moniters and I'd like to try that with Xinerma. But I can't find the options in Sax to set it up. Can you point me in the right direction please ? Mike
Am Freitag, 21. April 2006 08:56 schrieb michael norman:
Running SUSE 10.0 with a geforce 6600 video card which has the facility to run two moniters and I'd like to try that with Xinerma. But I can't find the options in Sax to set it up. Can you point me in the right direction please ?
Mike
First of all, have you installed the official nVidia drivers? The OSS versions don't support multi-head operation. Just use YOU and select the nVidia drivers. Next, open YaST or Sax from the KDE/Gnome menu and (from YaST select hardware->graphic card and monitor). If you have a second monitor plugged in, you should see a second monitor tab appear to control its settings. By default the monitors will mirror each other. I think they also need to both be connected at boot for the second one to be recognised the first time, not sure if the sax routines will pick it up if it is connected later (I know I had problems under 8.n and 9.n when trying that). Then further down the tab there should be a button for multi-monitor usage, you just need to select Xinerama mode. ATi's driver installer cause Sax to barf on this machine, so I can't currently double check the exact layout, but googling for SUSE and Xinerama should bring up some decent howto's, that's how I learnt how I trouble shooted it the first time. -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
Running SUSE 10.0 with a geforce 6600 video card which has the facility to run two moniters and I'd like to try that with Xinerma. But I can't find the options in Sax to set it up. Can you point me in the right direction please ?
Mike
First of all, have you installed the official nVidia drivers? The OSS versions don't support multi-head operation. Just use YOU and select the nVidia drivers.
Next, open YaST or Sax from the KDE/Gnome menu and (from YaST select hardware->graphic card and monitor).
I have never been able to get SAX to set up dual monitor in SUSE 10.0 (SUSE9.x was no problem though, and done as described). I just manually edited the xorg.conf file. Simple.. easy to do, and well documented. I don't recommend Xinerama at all if you have a nVidia card. Instead use the _much_ better Twinview option in the nVidia driver. I have this set up on my nVidia 6600 and it works perfectly (primary monitor on the right and secondary monitor on the left). I have full OpenGL (3D accelleration) and glxgears actually gives me slightly more fps than in single monitor mode... forget the actual value at the moment. All my games installed in Cedega work properly (full screen or windowed). All my applications behave properly (ie full screen on one monitor only etc.). Here's the relevant parts of my xorg.conf with comments: ---------------- # I just included the Module section so you could see what I'm loading... the default # generated by your original SAX config should be the same Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "v4l" EndSection # I had to set the display size to double width and single height to get Acrobat Reader # to behave properly. If you don't do this, there is a good chance that PDFs # will be unreadable. The rest of the settings are for my primary monitor, and left # over from my original SAX config for single monitor. They are used for your primary # monitor. Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 620 230 HorizSync 31-60 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "F51" Option "DPMS" VendorName "ACER" VertRefresh 56-85 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection # This is where it gets interesting. The Option settings are direct from nVidia's # documentation.. with the exception of the MetaModes part. MetaModes stuff is # there to allow full screen Windows games running in Cedega to switch into full # screen mode properly. Long story and if you need more info, just ask me. # It has no effect on Linux native apps (KDE/Gnome etc). # The second monitor frequency setting is important here. Make sure the numbers # are correct. Section "Screen" # removed the Display subsections for clarity Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" Option "CoolBits" "1" Option "TwinView" "True" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf" Option "UseEdidFreqs" "True" Option "MetaModes" "1024x768, 1024x768; 1024x768, NULL; NULL,1024x768" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "28.0 - 69.0" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "43.0 - 120.0" EndSection # Fairly normal set up here. Section "Device" BoardName "GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "nvidia" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "XaaNoOffScreenPixmaps" "on" Option "XaaNoPixmapCache" "on" VendorName "NVidia" EndSection # Note that Clone and Xinerama are set to OFF. That's important. Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout[all]" InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" Option "Clone" "off" Option "Xinerama" "off" Screen "Screen[0]" EndSection
First of all, have you installed the official nVidia drivers? The OSS versions don't support multi-head operation. Just use YOU and select the nVidia drivers.
Yes I have, from YOU, but I'll try an update.
Next, open YaST or Sax from the KDE/Gnome menu and (from YaST select hardware->graphic card and monitor).
If you have a second monitor plugged in, you should see a second monitor tab appear to control its settings.
That's the trouble, I have no second monitor tab. When SUSE boots it shows the boot up sequence on the second monitor but it goes blank when the system is up. Knoppix however gives me two identical screens, so I deduce it's not a hardware problem
By default the monitors will mirror each other. I think they also need to both be connected at boot for the second one to be recognised the first time, not sure if the sax routines will pick it up if it is connected later (I know I had problems under 8.n and 9.n when trying that).
I have booted with the second monitor connected, in fact I did that after it was connected and ran SAX from init 3 to try and set it up. I got aa very blurred image on the second monitor.
Then further down the tab there should be a button for multi-monitor usage, you just need to select Xinerama mode.
As above there is no such button.
ATi's driver installer cause Sax to barf on this machine, so I can't currently double check the exact layout, but googling for SUSE and Xinerama should bring up some decent howto's, that's how I learnt how I trouble shooted it the first time.
I tried googling for that but as yet can't find anything. I'll try again
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:40:15 +0100
michael norman
First of all, have you installed the official nVidia
drivers? The OSS
versions don't support multi-head operation. Just use YOU and select the nVidia drivers.
Hi I missed the thread along the line - what Graphics card do you have, as I have a similar problam with a Abit FX 5200. There is no way that I can get it to use the second monitor. What you have stated about the bootup etc. is exactly what I am experiencing as well. Regards Kobus ___________________________________________________________________ For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm http://www.webmail.co.za the South African FREE email service
I missed the thread along the line - what Graphics card do you have, as I have a similar problam with a Abit FX 5200. There is no way that I can get it to use the second monitor. What you have stated about the bootup etc. is exactly what I am experiencing as well.
The solution I gave earlier today http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Apr/2450.html should also work for the FX5200 (it's an nVidia card as well). C.
On Friday 21 April 2006 10:49, Clayton wrote:
I missed the thread along the line - what Graphics card do you have, as I have a similar problam with a Abit FX 5200. There is no way that I can get it to use the second monitor. What you have stated about the bootup etc. is exactly what I am experiencing as well.
The solution I gave earlier today http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Apr/2450.html should also work for the FX5200 (it's an nVidia card as well).
C.
Clayton Thanks, I now have it working. David, thanks for you input too. Mike
Hmm, Michael cc'ed me on his last reply and didn't notice my reply only went to him... Am Freitag, 21. April 2006 09:40 schrieben Sie:
First of all, have you installed the official nVidia drivers? The OSS versions don't support multi-head operation. Just use YOU and select the nVidia drivers.
Yes I have, from YOU, but I'll try an update.
Next, open YaST or Sax from the KDE/Gnome menu and (from YaST select hardware->graphic card and monitor).
If you have a second monitor plugged in, you should see a second monitor tab appear to control its settings.
That's the trouble, I have no second monitor tab. When SUSE boots it shows the boot up sequence on the second monitor but it goes blank when the system is up. Knoppix however gives me two identical screens, so I deduce it's not a hardware problem
By default the monitors will mirror each other. I think they also need to both be connected at boot for the second one to be recognised the first time, not sure if the sax routines will pick it up if it is connected later (I know I had problems under 8.n and 9.n when trying that).
I have booted with the second monitor connected, in fact I did that after it was connected and ran SAX from init 3 to try and set it up. I got aa very blurred image on the second monitor.
Then further down the tab there should be a button for multi-monitor usage, you just need to select Xinerama mode.
As above there is no such button.
ATi's driver installer cause Sax to barf on this machine, so I can't currently double check the exact layout, but googling for SUSE and Xinerama should bring up some decent howto's, that's how I learnt how I trouble shooted it the first time.
I tried googling for that but as yet can't find anything. I'll try again
I have a feeling that mine is set-up as twinview (I'm on the road at the moment, so can't check), but I do configure it through Sax2. That changed with 10.0 AFAIK, sorry if I misled in the first reply... This also has the advantage of allowing 3D acceleration with twin monitors (something Xinerama didn't do), I can play things like foobilliard on one monitor while watching a film on the other :) One thing to bear in mind, even with a 256MB card, the nVidia drivers don't seem to like doing 24-bit when using 2 monitors, drop to 16-bit and things should be better... Try googling twinview and suse instead of xinerama, that should give you the basics. Go with what Clayton posted as well. If you are still having problems later, I'll post my xorg.conf when I get back... -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
I have a feeling that mine is set-up as twinview (I'm on the road at the moment, so can't check), but I do configure it through Sax2.
Did you configure it with SAX2 in 10.0 or 9.3? (I could get it working fine in 9.3 using SAX and Xinerama - this was before I discovered TwinView - but gave up in 10.0 and did it manually) If I go into SAX2 with both monitors connected, SAX does not EVER see the second monitor - on top of that it wants to rewrite my xorg.conf file back to a single monitor setup. Granted the single monitor setup works perfectly after SAX does it's thing, but... when you want dual monitor... well, I've never got it to work using SAX. I'd really like to know if anyone else has figured out how to use SAX to setup dual monitor in SUSE 10.0.
One thing to bear in mind, even with a 256MB card, the nVidia drivers don't seem to like doing 24-bit when using 2 monitors, drop to 16-bit and things should be better...
Hmmm interesting. I'm using 24 bit mode with no problems or issues. What problems have you bumped into? What are the symptoms of the problems? I'm curious... mainly since my system seems to be flawless with the nVidia drivers as supplied via the YOU updates. C.
Am Freitag, 21. April 2006 13:06 schrieb Clayton:
I have a feeling that mine is set-up as twinview (I'm on the road at the moment, so can't check), but I do configure it through Sax2.
Did you configure it with SAX2 in 10.0 or 9.3? (I could get it working fine in 9.3 using SAX and Xinerama - this was before I discovered TwinView - but gave up in 10.0 and did it manually)
If I go into SAX2 with both monitors connected, SAX does not EVER see the second monitor - on top of that it wants to rewrite my xorg.conf file back to a single monitor setup. Granted the single monitor setup works perfectly after SAX does it's thing, but... when you want dual monitor... well, I've never got it to work using SAX. I'd really like to know if anyone else has figured out how to use SAX to setup dual monitor in SUSE 10.0.
Can't remember exactly how I set it up, think I manually did some Twinview, but now use Sax2. I found Sax2 didn't work to start with, but worked out that I had used some naming conventions from the HowTo which Sax2 didn't like, changin the identifiers for each section to Sax2-like ones and I can use Sax2 for the configuration now... I'll double check when I get back...
One thing to bear in mind, even with a 256MB card, the nVidia drivers don't seem to like doing 24-bit when using 2 monitors, drop to 16-bit and things should be better...
Hmmm interesting. I'm using 24 bit mode with no problems or issues. What problems have you bumped into? What are the symptoms of the problems? I'm curious... mainly since my system seems to be flawless with the nVidia drivers as supplied via the YOU updates.
C.
Currently I am using a 128MB 5900XT card with an Iiyama and an Hyundai Q17 panel, one on DVI, one on VGA. With the settings set at 24-bit, the display on the VGA cabled monitor is a "corrupted" copy of the DVI display, and even with "TwinView" and/or Xinerama enabled it was just doing corrupted mirror and ignoring the dual-head settings. Dropping to 16-bit sorted out the problems and upon re-starting X, it was in dual head mode and both displays working properly. There is also currently an issue with the nVidia drivers for 10.1 with certain TFT panels driven via DVI, even if I set the resolution to 1280x1024, and Sax2 accepts it, when X starts, it drops to 1280x960 because the driver reports that the monitor is not capable of 1280x1024 (even though that is its default resolution!). There is a workaround for it (I think setting "NoDDC", I'll double check when I get back to the office). Lastly, I've raised a bug on this with the KDE team, but was resolved as not their problem. Setting the monitor time-out in the Energy Saver settings in KDE Control Centre turns the monitor off after the correct amount of time, but restarting KDE or re-booting the machine resets that timout to 8 minutes, after every logon I need to re-start the Control Centre and move one of the timers one minute in either direction and click accept... With the OSS nv driver it works fine... -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
I had used some naming conventions from the HowTo which Sax2 didn't like, changin the identifiers for each section to Sax2-like ones and I can use Sax2 for the configuration now...
Interesting. For me I used whatever SAX2 gave me when I installed SUSE10.0. I didn't do any overrides... just used it as is... and wasn't given any options to change anything. That said, I haven't been back into SAX in a very long time - it didn't work to do what I wanted so I did it manually (as per my original reply here :-) ) and I never went back to see if anythign had changed. I will have to go look when I get home tonight.
panel, one on DVI, one on VGA. With the settings set at 24-bit, the display on the VGA cabled monitor is a "corrupted" copy of the DVI display, and even
I had that happen after an update I did to xorg (or was it X11?) Basically dual monitor stopped working altogether and I got exactly what you describe... a corrupted copy of the primary display showing on the secondary display. I had to roll back to the version of xorg/X11 provided on the DVD and then reinstall (manually) the nVidia RPM (provided by SUSE). Restarted X and all was back to normal - ie 24 bit dual monitor displaying the way dual monitor is supposed to. I wonder... is this your problem as well? C.
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Clayton
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David Wright
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Jacobus Venter
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michael norman