Wed, 16 Aug 2023 21:22:41 +0900 Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> :

Hello,

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Subject : XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 Message-ID : <20230816073503.34302cdeb690932d3eb92f9a@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 07:35:03 -0400

[BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written:

[...] BF> A related question is "if I disable pulse does that truly BF> and totally take it out of the equation until reboot"? BF> How come the Pulse Audio Volume thingie continues breathing?

Do it this way;

$ systemctl --user stop pulseaudio.service

After this, pulseaudio will not work unless you do either of these things;

1. $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service

or

2. reboot

Thank you

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Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:31:26 +0200 Lukáš Krejza <gryffus@hkfree.org> :

Hey,

Dne středa 16. srpna 2023 15:13:00 CEST, bent fender napsal(a):

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Wed, 16 Aug 2023 21:22:41 +0900

Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> :

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Hello,

In the Message;

Subject : XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 Message-ID : <20230816073503.34302cdeb690932d3eb92f9a@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 07:35:03 -0400

[BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written:

[...] BF> A related question is "if I disable pulse does that truly BF> and totally take it out of the equation until reboot"? BF> How come the Pulse Audio Volume thingie continues breathing?

Do it this way;

$ systemctl --user stop pulseaudio.service

Is Pulseaudio not socket-activated? I guess you should also need to stop the socket:

$ systemctl --user status pulseaudio.socket

You must mean systemctl --user stop pulseaudio.socket? Thanks, noted. I finally got my act together but don't ask me how. I tried all manner of cLi cluster attacks until I turned blue in the face. Something worked and I got what I wanted withOUT killing pulse. last post, first on page2: https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=25728&sid=195015ff8b68e83f4f1fbeee68811ecb&start=15 I "think" apps like Rosegarden & Yoshimi should maybe seriously expand their depends lists and setup scripts but I'm REALLY no one to have an opinion at those levels. -- "Peace is better than war; in peace the sons bury their fathers, in wars the fathers their sons". Croesus

Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:31:09 +0900 Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> :

Hello,

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Subject : XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 Message-ID : <20230816073503.34302cdeb690932d3eb92f9a@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 07:35:03 -0400

[BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written:

[...] BF> Sidebar: BF> I'm having a hsitload of issues with soundware ALL BF> the time, see

BF> https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=25728

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Subject : Re: Rosegarden segfaults in Leap-15.4 Message-ID : <20230512174801.d7ec617ab0e1bd6fe05a2dea@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Fri, 12 May 2023 17:48:01 -0400

[BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written:

[...] BF> Acquire audio card Audio1 BF> creating alsa driver ... hw:CARD|hw:CARD|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit BF> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods [...]

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Subject : Re: Rosegarden segfaults in Leap-15.4 Message-ID : <20230514132814.2ca70d309afb47189069704c@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Sun, 14 May 2023 13:28:14 -0400

[BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written:

[...] BF> Segmentation fault (core dumped) BF> ~ # audio_reservation_init BF> Acquire audio card Audio0 BF> creating alsa driver ... hw:II|hw:II|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit BF> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods [...]

Please show the results of;

$ cat /proc/asound/modules

Thanks for looking at it! # cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_virtuoso 1 snd_hda_intel 2 snd_hda_intel I don't know how relevant this is but right now Leap-15.5 Pulse-Audio-Volume-Control/Configuration shows only GK107 HDMI Audio Controller Profile: OFF Built-in Audio Profile: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output NB. I have no use for any of the above, if I had my way I'd cut the wires. The reason I went to soundcards was the horror that the motherboard bundled 3.5mm connections are with their constant intermittent connections when recording. The mobo BTW is some aging Asus Crosshair-IV. Other PAVC setup pages are full of HDMI and JACK entries though Jack isn't even running. The STX-II card doesn't seem to exist. This has been a real issue with Leap, especially when I have BOTH XONAR cards plugged-in (a practice I abandoned due to the length and number of entries). The referenced Linux Musicians link is ReSOLVED, at least for the time being :-) The Suse VS. rosegarden issue changes every day especially in Leap (maybe because of the card issue). Everything 'sound for music' in Suse is quite unstable, things work for for a while then comes some upgrade and it's back in the ditch again. Today I get no segfault, rosegarden starts (not tried), only this: ~ rosegarden Cannot lock down 86611866 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory) Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/5)(1: Operation not permitted) JackClient::AcquireSelfRealTime error [AlsaDriver] setCurrentTimer(): WARNING: using system timer with only 250 Hz resolution! [LADSPAPluginFactory] discoverPlugin() WARNING: couldn't dlopen "/usr/lib64/ladspa/caps.so" - /usr/lib64/ladspa/caps.so: undefined symbol: _ZN3DSP10Polynomial5one53Ef [Composition] getTrackById( 0 ): WARNING: Track ID not found. [Composition] Available track ids are: [AlsaDriver] renameDevice(): WARNING: Cannot find device 1 in port map do_connect: could not connect to socket connect: No such file or directory [SequenceManager] Rosegarden: WARNING: No accurate sequencer timer available (and kernel is new enough for RTC addendum) [RosegardenMainWindow] slotDisplayWarning(): MAIN WINDOW DISPLAY WARNING: type 2 text "<h3>System timer resolution is too low!</h3>" -- AI is upon us and could exterminate what is human quality in our lives so the fight is ON! Laws in every country MUST require producers of goods and services using AI to publicly declare that fact up front prior to sale, application or delivery.

Hello, Sorry for a BIG mistake. In the Message; Subject : Re: XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 Message-ID : <87bkf47dwl.wl-nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 21:06:50 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> has written: MN> Hello, MN> In the Message; MN> Subject : Re: XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 MN> Message-ID : <20230818072247.196dabc9342658b117e1a257@trixtar.org> MN> Date & Time: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:22:47 -0400 MN> [BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written: BF> Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:31:09 +0900 BF> Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> : MN> [...] BF> > Please show the results of; BF> > BF> > $ cat /proc/asound/modules BF> Thanks for looking at it! BF> # cat /proc/asound/modules BF> 0 snd_virtuoso BF> 1 snd_hda_intel BF> 2 snd_hda_intel BF> I don't know how relevant this is but right now Leap-15.5 BF> Pulse-Audio-Volume-Control/Configuration shows only BF> GK107 HDMI Audio Controller BF> Profile: OFF BF> Built-in Audio BF> Profile: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output MN> [...] BF> ~ rosegarden BF> Cannot lock down 86611866 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory) BF> Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/5)(1: Operation not permitted) BF> JackClient::AcquireSelfRealTime error BF> [AlsaDriver] setCurrentTimer(): WARNING: using system timer with only BF> 250 Hz resolution! [LADSPAPluginFactory] discoverPlugin() WARNING: BF> couldn't dlopen "/usr/lib64/ladspa/caps.so" BF> - /usr/lib64/ladspa/caps.so: undefined symbol: BF> _ZN3DSP10Polynomial5one53Ef [Composition] getTrackById( 0 ): WARNING: BF> Track ID not found. [Composition] Available track ids are: BF> [AlsaDriver] renameDevice(): WARNING: Cannot find device 1 in port BF> map do_connect: could not connect to socket connect: No such file or BF> directory [SequenceManager] Rosegarden: WARNING: No accurate sequencer BF> timer available (and kernel is new enough for RTC addendum) BF> [RosegardenMainWindow] slotDisplayWarning(): MAIN WINDOW DISPLAY BF> WARNING: type 2 text "<h3>System timer resolution is too low!</h3>" MN> Just as I thought! MN> The strange sound-related behavior in your system is because the intel MN> sound driver (on chip and/or video card) is also running. MN> The easiest solution is as follows; MN> $ sudo echo blacklist i915 > /etc/modprobe.d/intel.conf The correct solution is; $ sudo echo blacklist snd-hda-intel > /etc/modprobe.d/intel.conf Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 Message-ID : <20230818090225.3995357a246e7bf403b5b1f5@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:02:25 -0400 [BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written: BF> Fri, 18 Aug 2023 21:16:35 +0900 BF> Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> : [...] MN> > Sorry for a BIG mistake. BF> Red Pencil: BIG help RATHER! BF> I herewith officially retract everything I have ever BF> heard about Masaru Nomiya :-))) What!? Well... [...] MN>> The correct solution is; MN>> $ sudo echo blacklist snd-hda-intel > /etc/modprobe.d/intel.conf BF> Thank you, I don't know what it does but it done it. Did you reboot and check the bevaviours of Rosegarden etc. after this? FYI. In today's PCs, sound and video chips are usually installed in the chipset on the motherboard, and if we try to use an external video card and/or sound card, the video chip and/or sound chip on the chipset must be disabled in the BIOS setting. If we do not set the video chip and/or sound chip on the chipset to "disabled" in the BIOS, we will have problems using the PC just like you. In addition, sound chips are usually installed in recent external video cards, and if we do not use this chip, we must also set it disable, but this can only be done within the OS that has been booted. In your case, xonar's driver and intel's driver were fighting over the device. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Companies have come to view generative AI as a kind of monster that must be fed at all costs―even if it isn’t always clear what exactly that data is needed for or what those future AI systems might end up doing." -- Generative AI Is Making Companies Even More Thirsty for Your Data --

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5 Message-ID : <20230819073156.c61e59e6d16d0432d5067de2@trixtar.org> Date & Time: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:31:56 -0400 [BF] == bent fender <ksusup@trixtar.org> has written: [...] MN>> Did you reboot and check the bevaviours of Rosegarden etc. after MN>> this? BF> Yes, rosegarden starts now. I haven't worked with it yet BF> but it should be OK. Good! As you may have noticed, "blacklist snd-hda-intel" disables the function of the intel's sound chip on the M/B and on the video card. BTW, I also installed rosegarden to try it out, and log says I should also have pulseaudio-equalizer, which has no defined dependencies, but do you have it? Have fun with rosegarden! Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Companies have come to view generative AI as a kind of monster that must be fed at all costs―even if it isn’t always clear what exactly that data is needed for or what those future AI systems might end up doing." -- Generative AI Is Making Companies Even More Thirsty for Your Data --