LS, I am still using Leap 15.2 due to all the negative messages about 15.3. However, currently Thunderbird under 15.2 is now so old, that it won't work anymore with data processed under Tumbleweed (they used to share the same data directory - just to avoid double the data and maintenance effort). Has anybody experience with this setup using leap 15.3 and Tumbleweed? Regards, Frans. -- A: Yes, just like that A: Ja, net zo Q: Oh, Just like reading a book backwards Q: Oh, net als een boek achterstevoren lezen A: Because it upsets the natural flow of a story A: Omdat het de natuurlijke gang uit het verhaal haalt Q: Why is top-posting annoying? Q: Waarom is Top-posting zo irritant?
Le 28/08/2021 à 12:42, Frans de Boer a écrit :
LS,
I am still using Leap 15.2 due to all the negative messages about 15.3.
why negative? install a new (no update) 15.3 and all works well sure you will have to reinstall some apps, but it's fast jdd -- http://dodin.org
On 8/28/21 12:48, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2021 à 12:42, Frans de Boer a écrit :
LS,
I am still using Leap 15.2 due to all the negative messages about 15.3.
why negative? install a new (no update) 15.3 and all works well
sure you will have to reinstall some apps, but it's fast
jdd
Beside the my negative remark about 15.3 - which may well be better now - I still have no answer. Installing new apps and setting it up is no problem, but having two different directories for my e-mail and trying to synchronize the contents is not nice. Then I rather switch to another email program so I can share the same data directory. --- Frans.
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On 8/28/21 12:48, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2021 à 12:42, Frans de Boer a écrit :
LS,
I am still using Leap 15.2 due to all the negative messages about 15.3.
why negative? install a new (no update) 15.3 and all works well
sure you will have to reinstall some apps, but it's fast
jdd
Beside the my negative remark about 15.3 - which may well be better now - I still have no answer. Installing new apps and setting it up is no problem, but having two different directories for my e-mail and trying to synchronize the contents is not nice. Then I rather switch to another email program so I can share the same data directory.
Thunderbird can share the _mail_ directories, at least unless there has been some important change in the versions. Notice that I say the mail directories, not the configuration directories. This need some playing with symlinks. Besides that, you can instead run your own local imap server (same computer or different), and store the mail in there, not locally in Thunderbird. As an advantage, you can use any mail client. Huh, of course, there could be a difference in mail storage across versions in the imap server itself, dunno. In that case, put it in another computer. I use dovecot for that usage. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64 (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iJIEAREIADoWIQQt/vKEw5659AgM/X2NrxRtxRYzXAUCYSolIhwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJEI2vFG3FFjNchb0A/1nY3sOGDx/oxGw10pni 81gtqNLvKKraEFcOKIDDmsOJAQCM4iU9MRV6pI5QoudRAIukKW+3RWnVlK6WPdNZ CDsJ7Q== =dG9v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 28/08/2021 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 8/28/21 12:48, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2021 à 12:42, Frans de Boer a écrit :
LS,
I am still using Leap 15.2 due to all the negative messages about 15.3.
why negative? install a new (no update) 15.3 and all works well
sure you will have to reinstall some apps, but it's fast
jdd
Beside the my negative remark about 15.3 - which may well be better now - I still have no answer. Installing new apps and setting it up is no problem, but having two different directories for my e-mail and
El 2021-08-28 a las 13:44 +0200, Frans de Boer escribió: trying to synchronize the contents is not nice. Then I rather switch to another email program so I can share the same data directory.
Thunderbird can share the _mail_ directories, at least unless there has been some important change in the versions. Notice that I say the mail directories, not the configuration directories. This need some playing with symlinks.
Besides that, you can instead run your own local imap server (same computer or different), and store the mail in there, not locally in Thunderbird. As an advantage, you can use any mail client.
Huh, of course, there could be a difference in mail storage across versions in the imap server itself, dunno. In that case, put it in another computer.
I use dovecot for that usage.
-- Cheers Carlos E. R.
(from openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
Ah, it seems that TB has been replaced, just as the link on the desktop. Thereby destroying my change by adding the flag --allow-downgrade. Just added it again and now it works again. @Carlos, your right about the emails itself - I use my own imap server -, but using filters and address book requires local storage. I do not store messages locally. -- Frans.
On 28/08/2021 14.11, Frans de Boer wrote:
On 28/08/2021 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 2021-08-28 a las 13:44 +0200, Frans de Boer escribió:
On 8/28/21 12:48, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Ah, it seems that TB has been replaced, just as the link on the desktop. Thereby destroying my change by adding the flag --allow-downgrade. Just added it again and now it works again.
@Carlos, your right about the emails itself - I use my own imap server -, but using filters and address book requires local storage. I do not store messages locally.
Maybe, you could try to symlink the files containing the filters and address book(s). Chances of few files changing format across versions are reduced. I heard that the filters code was designed by a developer that joined the mozilla group, then left. He did the filters but no one has touched them again - thus chances of changes in that area are slim. I have no cite to offer for this info, only my memory, sorry. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.2 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
On 2021-08-28 06:42, Frans de Boer wrote:
However, currently Thunderbird under 15.2 is now so old,
I'm running Thunderbird under 15.1, if you want to talk about "Old"! # zypper info MozillaThunderbird Information for package MozillaThunderbird: ------------------------------------------- Repository : openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla Name : MozillaThunderbird Version : 91.0.2-lp151.1.1 Arch : x86_64 Vendor : obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla Installed Size : 221.0 MiB Installed : Yes Status : out-of-date (version 91.0.1-lp151.2.1 installed) Source package : MozillaThunderbird-91.0.2-lp151.1.1.src OOPS! I need to update! The repo I use is # cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/Mozilla.repo [Mozilla] name=openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_$releasever path=/ type=rpm-md keeppackages=0 Sorry, there's a line-wrap in there. So, if you think your T'Bird is old, what version are you running? -- “Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it’s conspiracy theories or free-market,” -- James Glattfelder. http://jth.ch/jbg
On 8/28/21 13:44, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2021-08-28 06:42, Frans de Boer wrote:
However, currently Thunderbird under 15.2 is now so old,
I'm running Thunderbird under 15.1, if you want to talk about "Old"!
# zypper info MozillaThunderbird
Information for package MozillaThunderbird: ------------------------------------------- Repository : openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla Name : MozillaThunderbird Version : 91.0.2-lp151.1.1 Arch : x86_64 Vendor : obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla Installed Size : 221.0 MiB Installed : Yes Status : out-of-date (version 91.0.1-lp151.2.1 installed) Source package : MozillaThunderbird-91.0.2-lp151.1.1.src
OOPS! I need to update!
The repo I use is # cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/Mozilla.repo [Mozilla] name=openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_$releasever
path=/ type=rpm-md keeppackages=0
Sorry, there's a line-wrap in there.
So, if you think your T'Bird is old, what version are you running Yes it is old, it's from 15.2, which ancient compared to TB under TW. But the option --allow-downgrade does not seem to work anymore under 15.2. Hmm, better check if that flag is still set.....will be continued.
On 2021-08-28 07:50, Frans de Boer wrote:
So, if you think your T'Bird is old, what version are you running
Yes it is old, it's from 15.2, which ancient compared to TB under TW. But the option --allow-downgrade does not seem to work anymore under 15.2. Hmm, better check if that flag is still set.....will be continued.
I ask again, what version are you running? I further ask, what repository is it from? These are very basic questions, the sort of information we need in order to give meaningful advice. I keep saying Context is Everything and very few take that seriously. Too many mouth the 'yes, yes, yes' and don't supply relevant and useful information. I ask again, what version are you running? I further ask, what repository is it from? You've seen how I can simply get that information with the 'zypper info' command. Please do that simple command and show us the result for your system. -- “Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it’s conspiracy theories or free-market,” -- James Glattfelder. http://jth.ch/jbg
Am 28.08.21 um 12:42 schrieb Frans de Boer:
LS,
I am still using Leap 15.2 due to all the negative messages about 15.3. However, currently Thunderbird under 15.2 is now so old, that it won't work anymore with data processed under Tumbleweed (they used to share the same data directory - just to avoid double the data and maintenance effort).
Has anybody experience with this setup using leap 15.3 and Tumbleweed?
No problems here with Leap 15.3, it might be because I select carefully when installing packages from additional repositories. Tumbleweed got today Thunderbird 91.0.1 Leap 15.3 comes with Thunderbird 78.12.0 (64-Bit). You might like Flatpack/Flathub. https://www.flatpak.org/ https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.mozilla.Thunderbird Peter
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