Up to now I am regularly doing a zypper dup which includes several 11.3 factory repositories. One question: would I at the end of the zypper dup update land automatically into 11.4 and if not, when should I decide to make the step towards 11.4. -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.36-93-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.5.3 (KDE 4.5.3) 16:12pm up 2:01, 2 users, load average: 1.60, 1.77, 1.82 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dnia środa, 17 listopada 2010 o 10:18:27 C. Brouerius van Nidek napisał(a):
Up to now I am regularly doing a zypper dup which includes several 11.3 factory repositories. One question: would I at the end of the zypper dup update land automatically into 11.4 and if not, when should I decide to make the step towards 11.4. Around Mar 10 2011, when openSUSE 11.4 will be released. -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik, openSUSE Community Member
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2010-11-17 at 16:18 +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
One question: would I at the end of the zypper dup update land automatically into 11.4 and if not, when should I decide to make the step towards 11.4.
It is your choice. It is factory, so there /is/ risk. You choose if and when. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkzjtq4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W3NACaA4qhI0eKys0M5GwSCqp9f34k pNoAn1d4WE6NzMeVgTjU/U0EVvQ24qhd =d3Cz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2010 4:18 AM, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Up to now I am regularly doing a zypper dup which includes several 11.3 factory repositories. One question: would I at the end of the zypper dup update land automatically into 11.4 and if not, when should I decide to make the step towards 11.4.
For me, zypper dup has never added new repos nor edited my repos. That means that, if I have 4 repos defined in yast (or "zypper lr") and they all happen to be 11.2 repos, I do "zypper dup" all the time and it never moves me to 11.3 or anywhere else. I think the difference bewteen "zypper dup" and "zypper up" is, say you had 11.1, 11.2, and 11.3 repos all configured in an 11.2 system. zypper up will stay within the 11.2 repos by default, zypper dup will go as high as possible using all repos that you have configured. But nothing will actually add new repos automatically so no you won't jump to 11.4 without going out of your way by manually adding 11.4 repos to your yast config. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/17/2010 3:56 PM, Brian K. White wrote:
On 11/17/2010 4:18 AM, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Up to now I am regularly doing a zypper dup which includes several 11.3 factory repositories. One question: would I at the end of the zypper dup update land automatically into 11.4 and if not, when should I decide to make the step towards 11.4.
For me, zypper dup has never added new repos nor edited my repos.
That means that, if I have 4 repos defined in yast (or "zypper lr") and they all happen to be 11.2 repos, I do "zypper dup" all the time and it never moves me to 11.3 or anywhere else.
I think the difference bewteen "zypper dup" and "zypper up" is, say you had 11.1, 11.2, and 11.3 repos all configured in an 11.2 system. zypper up will stay within the 11.2 repos by default, zypper dup will go as high as possible using all repos that you have configured.
But nothing will actually add new repos automatically so no you won't jump to 11.4 without going out of your way by manually adding 11.4 repos to your yast config.
I missed that you said factory. I saw only "11.3" But what is an "11.3 factory" repo? Isn't there no such thing? A repo is either 11.3 or factory. How can it be both? factroy repos will always be factory. They'll be essentially the same as 11.4 briefly, but they'll continue to be factory and so will go right on past 11.4 . 11.3 repos will always be 11.3 repos only. All they will do is see some updates for a while and then disappear when they are 1.5 years old. -- bkw -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Brian K. White
On 11/17/2010 3:56 PM, Brian K. White wrote:
On 11/17/2010 4:18 AM, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Up to now I am regularly doing a zypper dup which includes several 11.3 factory repositories. One question: would I at the end of the zypper dup update land automatically into 11.4 and if not, when should I decide to make the step towards 11.4.
For me, zypper dup has never added new repos nor edited my repos.
That means that, if I have 4 repos defined in yast (or "zypper lr") and they all happen to be 11.2 repos, I do "zypper dup" all the time and it never moves me to 11.3 or anywhere else.
I think the difference bewteen "zypper dup" and "zypper up" is, say you had 11.1, 11.2, and 11.3 repos all configured in an 11.2 system. zypper up will stay within the 11.2 repos by default, zypper dup will go as high as possible using all repos that you have configured.
But nothing will actually add new repos automatically so no you won't jump to 11.4 without going out of your way by manually adding 11.4 repos to your yast config.
I missed that you said factory. I saw only "11.3"
But what is an "11.3 factory" repo? Isn't there no such thing? A repo is either 11.3 or factory. How can it be both?
factroy repos will always be factory. They'll be essentially the same as 11.4 briefly, but they'll continue to be factory and so will go right on past 11.4 .
11.3 repos will always be 11.3 repos only. All they will do is see some updates for a while and then disappear when they are 1.5 years old.
-- bkw
If you really meant factory repos, there are 2 sets of those currently. The instant by instant factory repos which are dangerous to use for anything but pure testing. You can often find broken packages in there and can end up so broken overall that even testing is useless unless your testing the brokenness issues specifically. You can guess I don't use those repos. The factory snapshot repos that only get updated every month or so when there is a new milestone or rc release. (See the 11.4 roadmap). The team attempts to ensure milestones are at least usable for testing so milestone releases do get delayed if factory is too broken at the scheduled time. Both of the above will achieve 11.4 Gold status a week or so before the formal release. (See the roadmap). The instant by instant factory repos are unfrozen shortly after general release (a week or so I think.) The snapshot factory repos will stay at Gold until the first 11.5 milestone. (there should be a roadmap by then.) If you want to stay with 11.4 after its release, you will need to change from the factory repos to the 11.4 repos during the above windows of opportunity. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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