Fwd: Re: [SLE] Install/Partioning Help
Subject: Re: [SLE] Install/Partioning Help
Date: Friday 06 June 2003 23:14
From: Bob Stia
The 03.06.06 at 02:20, Bob S. wrote:
Now at the partioning screen Yast suggests/has added another logical partion, hdb9 =/ which is 1.9 gigs. Don't know where it got it from and is scheduled to be formatted. NONE... of the other drives, regular or logical will be formatted. Don't understand this because hdb1 was the original / . Does this mean that all of the old boot stuff from / will remain? Will hdb3 =usr remain?? ( can't be ! )
You have to go into manual or expert mode, and select the partitions you want it to use and/or create. The automated mode is just installing a new system on a new partition.
Yes Carlos, Thanks for replying. I was in manual mode. In the first paragraph of my original post that is evidenced by my original drives. That is why I am asking these questions. I need to understand what it is that Yast will do when I select to change those options. I think that you have misunderstood what I am asking. If you have the time and inclination to assist me, I ask that you please re-read the original post. If you or anyone else wants to help I have included the orinal post at the bottom of this message. Thanks anyway, for at least replying. Bob S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Suse People, Doing a fresh install of 8.2 over 8.0. (Personal) Want to change some of my partitions around some. No size changes. Have some questions at the partitioning screen. I am somewhat familiar with hard drive partioning. The drive is hdb. ( 30 gigs) This was the 8.0 setup. hdb1 = /, hdb2 =extended, hdb3 =/usr, hdb5 =/newlinux, hdb6 =swap, hdb7=fat32, hdb8 =/data. Now at the partioning screen Yast suggests/has added another logical partion, hdb9 =/ which is 1.9 gigs. Don't know where it got it from and is scheduled to be formatted. NONE... of the other drives, regular or logical will be formatted. Don't understand this because hdb1 was the original / . Does this mean that all of the old boot stuff from / will remain? Will hdb3 =/usr remain?? ( can't be ! ) The reason for the repartitioning is that I would like to create a /home partition I do NOT want Yast to touch /newlinux or /data but would like to change them from ext2 to ext3. Would that cause data loss with that change? I am thinking accept hdb9 =/ as suggested by Yast even though it is only 1.9 gigs,( worry about var, opt, etc.) and then format the original hdb1 from / to /home. Or, would it be better to format the original hdb1 and reuse it? ( 4.5 gigs) Then use the newfound hdb9 for something else. I would like my /home partition to be bigger than 1.9 gigs though. PLEASE !! Correct my thinking if I am wrong! I could also create an LVM / LVM's? But I have no idea about that. Can anyone direct me to the "Administration Guide" Hope that some partitioning guru will give me some advice here. Bob S.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 June 2003 22:45, Bob S. wrote:
Subject: Re: [SLE] Install/Partioning Help Date: Friday 06 June 2003 23:14 From: Bob Stia
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com On Friday 06 June 2003 05:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.06.06 at 02:20, Bob S. wrote:
Now at the partioning screen Yast suggests/has added another logical partion, hdb9 =/ which is 1.9 gigs. Don't know where it got it from and is scheduled to be formatted. NONE... of the other drives, regular or logical will be formatted. Don't understand this because hdb1 was the original / . Does this mean that all of the old boot stuff from / will remain? Will hdb3 =usr remain?? ( can't be ! )
You have to go into manual or expert mode, and select the partitions you want it to use and/or create. The automated mode is just installing a new system on a new partition.
Yes Carlos, Thanks for replying. I was in manual mode. In the first paragraph of my original post that is evidenced by my original drives. That is why I am asking these questions. I need to understand what it is that Yast will do when I select to change those options.
I think that you have misunderstood what I am asking. If you have the time and inclination to assist me, I ask that you please re-read the original post.
If you or anyone else wants to help I have included the orinal post at the bottom of this message.
Thanks anyway, for at least replying. Bob S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Suse People,
Doing a fresh install of 8.2 over 8.0. (Personal) Want to change some of my partitions around some. No size changes. Have some questions at the partitioning screen. I am somewhat familiar with hard drive partioning.
The drive is hdb. ( 30 gigs) This was the 8.0 setup. hdb1 = /, hdb2 =extended, hdb3 =/usr, hdb5 =/newlinux, hdb6 =swap, hdb7=fat32, hdb8 =/data.
Now at the partioning screen Yast suggests/has added another logical partion, hdb9 =/ which is 1.9 gigs. Don't know where it got it from and is scheduled to be formatted. NONE... of the other drives, regular or logical will be formatted. Don't understand this because hdb1 was the original / . Does this mean that all of the old boot stuff from / will remain? Will hdb3 =/usr remain?? ( can't be ! )
The reason for the repartitioning is that I would like to create a /home partition
I do NOT want Yast to touch /newlinux or /data but would like to change them from ext2 to ext3. Would that cause data loss with that change?
I am thinking accept hdb9 =/ as suggested by Yast even though it is only 1.9 gigs,( worry about var, opt, etc.) and then format the original hdb1 from / to /home.
Or, would it be better to format the original hdb1 and reuse it? ( 4.5 gigs) Then use the newfound hdb9 for something else. I would like my /home partition to be bigger than 1.9 gigs though.
PLEASE !! Correct my thinking if I am wrong!
I could also create an LVM / LVM's? But I have no idea about that. Can anyone direct me to the "Administration Guide"
Hope that some partitioning guru will give me some advice here.
Bob S.
You don't want to alter your / root partition unless you are sure that the new / root partition is valid. If you decide to do so, you will also have to alter your grub configuration. I didn't notice a specific /boot filesystem in your prvious message, thus the /boot filesystem is contained within your "/" partition. i.e..../boot actually is a physical description of two structures "/" and "boot" I would just alter the hdb9 partition to show the new mountpoint of /home. This won't break your box. Even with it set as /home the root account will still be able to login. The $HOME variable is set in /etc/passwd. You will just need to copy the users $HOME files from hdb1 to hdb9. Now upon reboot, the system will mount your new /home. I may have missed something in this all, everyone feel free to make any comments regarding my mistakes. BTW, i use LVM extensively. It allows you to alter the filesystem structures as they develop. I make 1GB partitions on both hda and hdb. I've got some 30 odd LVM partitions to work with throughout my system. Love it!!!!! ;) - -- Thomas Jones Linux-Howtos Network Administrator OpenGPG Key: 0x6A3DF6E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+4eQxQT2komo99ukRAmiuAJ9V+7s5HIZmD9x5qxlJWNhTuv2KrACgrJeW sMygFIvMFqyvcoLXSyuExXg= =ZNH7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Saturday 07 June 2003 09:10, Thomas Jones wrote:
On Friday 06 June 2003 22:45, Bob S. wrote:
Subject: Re: [SLE] Install/Partioning Help
On Friday 06 June 2003 05:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.06.06 at 02:20, Bob S. wrote:
Now at the partioning screen Yast suggests/has added another ................., snip a whole bunch of stuff>......
You don't want to alter your / root partition unless you are sure that the new / root partition is valid.
First of all, thanks for replying Thomas Now, that is what Yast wants to do, alter it, Instead of reusing / which is the original hdb1 it suggests a new hdb9 for /
If you decide to do so, you will also have to alter your grub configuration. I didn't notice a specific /boot filesystem in your prvious message, thus the /boot filesystem is contained within your "/" partition.
Correct
i.e..../boot actually is a physical description of two structures "/" and "boot"
Also correct
I would just alter the hdb9 partition to show the new mountpoint of /home. This won't break your box. Even with it set as /home the root account will still be able to login.
Not sure that I understand that. You mean that hdb9 will be /, /boot, and /home ??? As well as /var, /opt, etc. etc. ??
The $HOME variable is set in /etc/passwd. You will just need to copy the users $HOME files from hdb1 to hdb9. Now upon reboot, the system will mount your new /home.
As per my question above?
I may have missed something in this all, everyone feel free to make any comments regarding my mistakes.
No, you probably did not. I think it is a matter of understanding exactly what Yast will do. This never used to be a problem for me because I used Partition Magic. Alas, it is now too old to do the newer FS's.
BTW, i use LVM extensively. It allows you to alter the filesystem structures as they develop. I make 1GB partitions on both hda and hdb. I've got some 30 odd LVM partitions to work with throughout my system. Love it!!!!!
I would also. Can you please point me to some really good FAQ's of Howto's for LVM before I embark on this new adventure? Thanks again. See my reply to Jerry asking for more clarificaation. Bob S.
Op zondag 8 juni 2003 07:35, schreef Bob S.:
BTW, i use LVM extensively. It allows you to alter the filesystem structures as they develop. I make 1GB partitions on both hda and hdb. I've got some 30 odd LVM partitions to work with throughout my system. Love it!!!!!
I would also. Can you please point me to some really good FAQ's of Howto's for LVM before I embark on this new adventure?
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/pdf/LVM-HOWTO.pdf http://www.pcplus.co.uk/media/pcplus/pdf/190/190.masterclass.linux expert.pdf -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
The 03.06.06 at 23:45, Bob S. wrote:
You have to go into manual or expert mode, and select the partitions you want it to use and/or create. The automated mode is just installing a new system on a new partition.
Yes Carlos, Thanks for replying. I was in manual mode. In the first paragraph of my original post that is evidenced by my original drives. That is why I am asking these questions. I need to understand what it is that Yast will do when I select to change those options.
Well, I didn't see the words "manual or expert mode", so I didn't notice :-)
I think that you have misunderstood what I am asking. If you have the time and inclination to assist me, I ask that you please re-read the original post.
I'll try. But I still don't clearly understand your question.
If you or anyone else wants to help I have included the orinal post at the bottom of this message.
Plase, don't! That's what threads are for, to see the history of replies, no need to repeat. You are lucky that this is a wekend, or somebody would flame you inmediately ;-) Ok, so yast was sugesting to add a new partition and install there, leaving the existing ones intact and unused (for the new). Now, is that what you want, or do you want to install on top of the existing old installation? In the second case, you need to remove the new sugested partition (not yet created) in Yast, ie, hdb9. Then you will have to edit the rest of the entries. On hdb1, your old "/", you will have to enter "/" as the mount point, and mark it as "format" as well (and change the format type, if you want: this is the time for it (reiser, ext3, whatever)). Same for hdb3 (/usr), etc. Be carefull not to request format of the partition you want to keep, like /data or windows partitions. Also, if you want to add a new partition for /home or whatever, do it. Think of it carefully; Yast will not write any thing at this stage, anyway. If you want to change more things, you can delete more partitions, and create new ones with different sizes that fit inside the clared space - this is important - I don't think yast will _move_ partitions. It is posible, however, to create newpartitions elsewhere and move over the contens (read the hardisk upgrade howto). Or use LVM, but I'm no expert on that. All this - or most - is documented on suse install guide, either in paper, pdf, or html (http://localhost/usr/share/doc/packages/suselinux-userguide_en/html/node6.ht..., chapter "Partitioning"), and they explain it much better than I'can ever do - but if you still have doubts, just make your question and me or somebody else will have a go ;-) And of course, if you bought it, you have a 90 days free installation support - at least, for the professional version. It doesn't cover everything, but I think this is covered... Er... I'm not sure, though... yours might not be a typical install, once you go for "expert" partioning. They only conver typical installs.
I do NOT want Yast to touch /newlinux or /data but would like to change them from ext2 to ext3. Would that cause data loss with that change?
Yes, because Yast would format them. I'm unsure how to do that change, but I think it is possible. Post a _new_ question here with that title. Perhaps the man page explains it. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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