If you're interested in a tutorial, I found this one very helpful http://www.idi.ntnu.no/~mlh/python/programming.html It explains things a bit better than Guido's tutorial, if you're new to programming. A little too basic if you've been programming for a while. The language is quite powerful, and just Cool IMO. From: Samy Elashmawy <samelash@ix.netcom.com> on 06/01/2000 04:44 AM To: yatsenng@casema.net suse-linux-e@suse.com cc: Client: Subject: Re: [SLE] Perl / Python [IMAGE] I read that artical too. Picked up orialys learning python nad just started it. When I looked into pearl its just too cryptic , especialy in its typing and just the way the code looks. I realy like what I have seen pf python and plan on realy finishing the book. It has hoods into tcl/tk and postgress as well. It seems to be a higher leval and has built in oop , not oop as an afterthought.Not this is what I as a newbie have picked up on. YMMV There are several tutorials on the python home page as well. At 11:26 PM 5/31/2000 +0000, Yatsen Ng wrote:
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I need to learn a scripting language and I was just about to start with Perl. But then I read a very positive article about Python in the LinuxJournal (written by Eric Raymond). A lot of people recommend Perl, simply because the majority uses it. But is that a good enough reason?
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What book wouls you guys recommend for learning python? I have a lot of experience with programming, including C and perl, but very little experience with object oriented programming such as Java or C++. For perl I used a combination of Learning Perl and Programming Perl (the latter is hard to learn from, and the former does not have enough detail, so I needed both). For C I used Kernigan and Richie's original book, and I really liked its style, detailed, but fast moving, but not cryptic. But I read it many years ago, and had a background in Pascal, so maybe I didn't judge well. I would like a fast paced yet detailed book. But I find that many of these books are like someone explaining poker: "The one eyed Jacks are wild" when one has no idea of even the basics. Online tutorials are OK, but I find the written page much easier, and am willing to spend a few bucks to avoid the online experience. Thanks, Stephen -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Sounds like you are moving into python now, but if you are still looking at perl too I would recommend another book: Perl 5 by example. It's printed by Que and I have gotten pretty far with it. I've been writing a lot of perl programs for work and this is the book that finally clicked with me. I read a few others and always got stuck in the basics. This book makes it a lot easier because it includes more example code so you can see how things go together. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Darren R. Weber drw@linuxfan.com ICQ# 2849193 http://drw.penguinpowered.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, you wrote:
What book wouls you guys recommend for learning python? I have a lot of experience with programming, including C and perl, but very little experience with object oriented programming such as Java or C++.
For perl I used a combination of Learning Perl and Programming Perl (the latter is hard to learn from, and the former does not have enough detail, so I needed both).
For C I used Kernigan and Richie's original book, and I really liked its style, detailed, but fast moving, but not cryptic. But I read it many years ago, and had a background in Pascal, so maybe I didn't judge well.
I would like a fast paced yet detailed book. But I find that many of these books are like someone explaining poker: "The one eyed Jacks are wild" when one has no idea of even the basics.
Online tutorials are OK, but I find the written page much easier, and am willing to spend a few bucks to avoid the online experience.
Thanks, Stephen
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I just ordered Learning Python (from O'Reilly). There's also Programming Python for the more experiended programmer http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/python/
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What book wouls you guys recommend for learning python? I have a lot of experience with programming, including C and perl, but very little experience with object oriented programming such as Java or C++.
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What book wouls you guys recommend for learning python? I have a lot of experience with programming, including C and perl, but very little experience with object oriented programming such as Java or C++.
For perl I used a combination of Learning Perl and Programming Perl (the latter is hard to learn from, and the former does not have enough detail, so I needed both).
Maybe the same would be true with python, and in that case you should read Learning Python and Programming Python ;-) Since I am a beginner, I have started with Learning Python, but it might be too slow for you. One book that I have heard positive noises about is "Python Essential Reference", by David Beazley. It is for the most part "A concise reference for language and library". It also has a very quick intro to the language. Some reviews: http://www.lwn.net/Reviews/PythonEssentialReference.phtml http://dannyreviews.com/h/Python_Reference.html You can see the vast selection of python books mentioned here: http://www.python.org/psa/bookstore/ david. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Orialys learning python and python in 24 hrs are beginer orientated. Orialys progromming python is more advanced , and there is one called python tinkler programming or something , that realy gets into python and the tinkle gui stuff. Your best bet wooulf be an oriely pthon in a nutshell , these series are geared to the exoerianced programer and not toward a beginer. At 04:45 PM 6/1/2000 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
What book wouls you guys recommend for learning python? I have a lot of experience with programming, including C and perl, but very little experience with object oriented programming such as Java or C++.
For perl I used a combination of Learning Perl and Programming Perl (the latter is hard to learn from, and the former does not have enough detail, so I needed both).
For C I used Kernigan and Richie's original book, and I really liked its style, detailed, but fast moving, but not cryptic. But I read it many years ago, and had a background in Pascal, so maybe I didn't judge well.
I would like a fast paced yet detailed book. But I find that many of these books are like someone explaining poker: "The one eyed Jacks are wild" when one has no idea of even the basics.
Online tutorials are OK, but I find the written page much easier, and am willing to spend a few bucks to avoid the online experience.
Thanks, Stephen
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Very interesting , downloaded and printed it out to read over the week end , I also have O'Riellys learning python , which goes into more detial. So far I like what I see. (I an biased towards Opject Pascal a la borlands Delphi. Python harkens back to the days of dbase 4 which i dabled with for a realy short time. That version realy killed it incomparison with dbase 3. Made several apps with clarion for dos , and several more with a pre_rad tool caled Zachery thet was a really sophisticated code generater for clipper ,and finaly Delphi which I realy like and realy miss on linux. JAva's too c like , but prpobibly worth learning as its so close to c/c++ but there is a dearth of third party add ins that are realy affordable. Every thing is markedted to big / corperate shops , way too expensive.
If you're interested in a tutorial, I found this one very helpful http://www.idi.ntnu.no/~mlh/python/programming.html It explains things a bit better than Guido's tutorial, if you're new to programming. A little too basic if you've been programming for a while. The language is quite powerful, and just Cool IMO.
From: Samy Elashmawy <samelash@ix.netcom.com> on 06/01/2000 04:44 AM
To: yatsenng@casema.net suse-linux-e@suse.com cc: Client: Subject: Re: [SLE] Perl / Python
[IMAGE] I read that artical too. Picked up orialys learning python nad just started it.
When I looked into pearl its just too cryptic , especialy in its typing and just the way the code looks. I realy like what I have seen pf python and plan on realy finishing the book. It has hoods into tcl/tk and postgress as well. It seems to be a higher leval and has built in oop , not oop as an afterthought.Not this is what I as a newbie have picked up on. YMMV
There are several tutorials on the python home page as well.
At 11:26 PM 5/31/2000 +0000, Yatsen Ng wrote:
Hi there,
I need to learn a scripting language and I was just about to start with
But then I read a very positive article about Python in the LinuxJournal (written by Eric Raymond). A lot of people recommend Perl, simply because
Perl. the
majority uses it. But is that a good enough reason?
Cheers! -- Yatsen Ng yatsenng@casema.net
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