I am showing 6 updates in the software updater. Actually 3 everything repeats twice. After clicking Update It goes to resolving Dependance. Then a several seconds later I get an error "Dependency Resolution Failed" If I click on just 1 package to update I get a more detailed message --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Public.ZenException: Failed to lookup resolvable with id '591173' Server stack trace: in <0x00178> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RedCarpetBackend SqlTransaction:GetResult () in <0x00081> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RedCarpetBackend:ResolveDependencies (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] installs, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] upgrades, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] removals) in <0x00023> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.PackageManager:Resolve (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] installs, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] upgrades, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.IResolvable[] removals) in <0x00038> Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RemotePackageManager:ResolveDependencies (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.Public.ResolvableInfo[] installs, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.Public.ResolvableInfo[] upgrades, Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.Public.ResolvableInfo[] removals) in <0x00000> <unknown method> in (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingServices:InternalExecute (System.Reflection.MethodBase,object,object[],object[]&) in <0x00188> System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingServices:InternalExecuteMessage (System.MarshalByRefObject target, IMethodCallMessage reqMsg) Exception rethrown at [0]: in <0x006dc> System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy:PrivateInvoke (System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy rp, IMessage msg, System.Exception exc, System.Object[] out_args) ----------------------------------------------------- This did work the couple days correctly. What have I done?????
On Monday 22 May 2006 12:25, Doug Currey wrote:
This did work the couple days correctly.
What have I done?????
AFAICT, nothing... mine isn't working now. And falling back to YOU didn't work, either. Launched alright, refreshed sources OK, it found one open patch (I forget which one) and auto-selected it for installation, I clicked 'Accept' and YOU segfaulted... a clean close, too, not even a crash handler. :-/ Carl
On Monday 22 May 2006 11:41 am, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 12:25, Doug Currey wrote:
This did work the couple days correctly.
What have I done?????
AFAICT, nothing... mine isn't working now. And falling back to YOU didn't work, either. Launched alright, refreshed sources OK, it found one open patch (I forget which one) and auto-selected it for installation, I clicked 'Accept' and YOU segfaulted... a clean close, too, not even a crash handler. :-/
Carl
Verified here too. Same general error of zen-updater crashing on trying to load updates. Smart package manager worked for those patches I needed. Stan
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:41:51PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 12:25, Doug Currey wrote:
This did work the couple days correctly.
What have I done?????
AFAICT, nothing... mine isn't working now. And falling back to YOU didn't work, either. Launched alright, refreshed sources OK, it found one open patch (I forget which one) and auto-selected it for installation, I clicked 'Accept' and YOU segfaulted... a clean close, too, not even a crash handler. :-/
I got rid of all that rug/zen crap and am using apt-get, which works just fine, thank you. Michael -- San Francisco, CA
Michael Nelson wrote:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:41:51PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 12:25, Doug Currey wrote:
This did work the couple days correctly.
What have I done?????
AFAICT, nothing... mine isn't working now. And falling back to YOU didn't work, either. Launched alright, refreshed sources OK, it found one open patch (I forget which one) and auto-selected it for installation, I clicked 'Accept' and YOU segfaulted... a clean close, too, not even a crash handler. :-/
I got rid of all that rug/zen crap and am using apt-get, which works just fine, thank you.
Michael
Now if they would just provide us with synaptic for 10.1 we would be all set. I have tried using the one from 10.0 but no luck -- Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO Kettering University Flint, Michigan 48504 (810) 762-7935 rcunnig@kettering.edu
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 18:42 -0400, Robert Cunningham wrote:
Michael Nelson wrote:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:41:51PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 12:25, Doug Currey wrote:
This did work the couple days correctly.
What have I done?????
AFAICT, nothing... mine isn't working now. And falling back to YOU didn't work, either. Launched alright, refreshed sources OK, it found one open patch (I forget which one) and auto-selected it for installation, I clicked 'Accept' and YOU segfaulted... a clean close, too, not even a crash handler. :-/
I got rid of all that rug/zen crap and am using apt-get, which works just fine, thank you.
Michael
Now if they would just provide us with synaptic for 10.1 we would be all set. I have tried using the one from 10.0 but no luck
Have you tried using the "smart" package manager?, it is similar to synaptic. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:58:04PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
Have you tried using the "smart" package manager?, it is similar to synaptic.
I tried it for a while on 10.0 and had some major problems with it, so I haven't been tempted to use it on 10.1 especially since apt is working well. I don't need the gui. Michael -- San Francisco, CA
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On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:58:04PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
Have you tried using the "smart" package manager?, it is similar to synaptic.
I tried it for a while on 10.0 and had some major problems with it, so I haven't been tempted to use it on 10.1 especially since apt is working well. I don't need the gui.
Michael
Same here , I have had several versions of a program installed by smart without deleting the previous version. Also i don't like the layout of smart-gui,, It lists all the current versions and you have to pick out which one you want, this is great for an advanced function, but everyday upgrading it becomes very tedious. I much prefer seeing synaptic R Cunningham -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEcpIyjwV5n5LkO9YRAmh1AKCAmXlPuEszNRGmBsjTcNm5LgTNAwCcD8Gz zZuV79B/OETZq0PB7VJnX3k= =Dah3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 00:03, Michael Nelson wrote:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:58:04PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
Have you tried using the "smart" package manager?, it is similar to synaptic.
I tried it for a while on 10.0 and had some major problems with it, so I haven't been tempted to use it on 10.1 especially since apt is working well. I don't need the gui.
Michael
Could you hare your sources list please ? thanks Mike
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 07:13:24AM +0100, michael norman wrote:
Could you hare your sources list please ?
rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.1-i386 kde gnome mozilla non-oss base update security rpmkeys packman-i686 That's it, just that one line. Michael -- San Francisco, CA
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 14:18, Michael Nelson wrote:
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 07:13:24AM +0100, michael norman wrote:
Could you hare your sources list please ?
rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.1-i386 kde gnome mozilla non-oss base update security rpmkeys packman-i686
That's it, just that one line.
Michael Michael
Thank you Mike
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 16:03 -0700, Michael Nelson wrote:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 06:58:04PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
Have you tried using the "smart" package manager?, it is similar to synaptic.
I tried it for a while on 10.0 and had some major problems with it, so I haven't been tempted to use it on 10.1 especially since apt is working well. I don't need the gui.
Smart works from the CLI as well and has had a lot of improvements for 10.1 as it was meant to replace apt-get. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"Doug Currey"
I am showing 6 updates in the software updater. Actually 3 everything repeats twice.
After clicking Update It goes to resolving Dependance. Then a several seconds later I get an error "Dependency Resolution Failed"
If I click on just 1 package to update I get a more detailed message
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Public.ZenException: Failed to lookup resolvable with id '591173'
Known problem, we're working on a fix. :-( Use "yast2 online_update" for now to install the updates, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Monday 22 May 2006 17:25, Doug Currey wrote:
I am showing 6 updates in the software updater. Actually 3 everything repeats twice.
After clicking Update It goes to resolving Dependance. Then a several seconds later I get an error "Dependency Resolution Failed"
If I click on just 1 package to update I get a more detailed message
This Updater is a load of Poo - it should not have been included in this release until it was ready - its worse than a MS release i.e. wait until release 3.1 until it works. Just wait until you get passed the dependency issues - as an ordinary user i have no rights to do the updates or installs so i have to log in as root. Maybe there is a setting somewhere for this but without some sort of documentation i'll never find out Bring back YOU !!!
ianseeks
This Updater is a load of Poo - it should not have been included in this release until it was ready - its worse than a MS release i.e. wait until release 3.1 until it works. Just wait until you get passed the dependency issues - as an ordinary user i have no rights to do the updates or installs so i have to log in as root.
It will ask you whether you want to add yourself to list of allowed users. Just do as root: "rug ua yourlogin" or "rug ua yourlog +priviledge"
Maybe there is a setting somewhere for this but without some sort of documentation i'll never find out
Bring back YOU !!!
It's there, just use it, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
It will ask you whether you want to add yourself to list of allowed users.
Just do as root: "rug ua yourlogin" or "rug ua yourlog +priviledge" It has never asked me to create one, it just tells me I don't have permissions. And running "rug....." is not exactly user friendly for a newbie user - he/she'd go running back to MS as a result of this software updater.
Maybe there is a setting somewhere for this but without some sort of documentation i'll never find out
Bring back YOU !!!
It's there, just use it,
I've tried googling for "software updater" but all i seem to get are blogs that assume you already know something about it. I'd rather have YOU back in my system tray until such time this program has been fixed. Apart from this program, its the best release of Suse so far. If it had been pre-configured with all the update sites and then allow the users to change to mirrors then there might have been a lot less frustration. Are Novell trying to make KDE as frustrating as possible by installing Gnome/mono (why use Mono -are they going to use this program in .Net?) programs so they can dump KDE sooner than later? They spend their time getting OpenOffice to use KDE bits a pieces but they couldn't do it with this program?
ianseeks
It will ask you whether you want to add yourself to list of allowed users.
Just do as root: "rug ua yourlogin" or "rug ua yourlog +priviledge" It has never asked me to create one, it just tells me I don't have permissions.
Strange - it asked me everytime and if not I would have filed a bugreport ;-)
And running "rug....." is not exactly user friendly for a newbie user - he/she'd go running back to MS as a result of this software updater.
This is just a workaround, it should really ask, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Monday 22 May 2006 14:02, ianseeks wrote:
... I'd rather have YOU back in my system tray until such time this program has been fixed.
Hi Ian, FYI, the desktop applet that's been removed is called "SUSEWatcher," not "YOU". SUSEWatcher's job is to 'live' in the system tray and check for updates in the background. "YOU" is short for YaST Online Update, which is the module you launch from within YaST Control Center that is used to actually download and install the patches/updates. Therefore,
Bring back YOU !!!
should actually be "Bring back SUSEWatcher!!!" I'm not actually endorsing this, but I'm sure you want your opinion to be understood. regards, Carl
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:42 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 14:02, ianseeks wrote:
... I'd rather have YOU back in my system tray until such time this program has been fixed.
Hi Ian,
FYI, the desktop applet that's been removed is called "SUSEWatcher," not "YOU". SUSEWatcher's job is to 'live' in the system tray and check for updates in the background. "YOU" is short for YaST Online Update, which is the module you launch from within YaST Control Center that is used to actually download and install the patches/updates.
Therefore,
Bring back YOU !!!
should actually be "Bring back SUSEWatcher!!!"
I'm not actually endorsing this, but I'm sure you want your opinion to be understood.
From the factory list:
********************************************************************* I'm just putting our current packages to ftp.suse.com and mirrors for testing: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/ If the test is successfull, those packages will go out next week as online update. I'll write release notes later on what has changed, Andreas ********************************************************************* This hopefully a fix for some of the problems regarding the package manager. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 12:06:16PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:42 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 14:02, ianseeks wrote:
... I'd rather have YOU back in my system tray until such time this program has been fixed.
Hi Ian,
FYI, the desktop applet that's been removed is called "SUSEWatcher," not "YOU". SUSEWatcher's job is to 'live' in the system tray and check for updates in the background. "YOU" is short for YaST Online Update, which is the module you launch from within YaST Control Center that is used to actually download and install the patches/updates.
Therefore,
Bring back YOU !!!
should actually be "Bring back SUSEWatcher!!!"
I'm not actually endorsing this, but I'm sure you want your opinion to be understood.
From the factory list:
********************************************************************* I'm just putting our current packages to ftp.suse.com and mirrors for testing:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/
If the test is successfull, those packages will go out next week as online update. I'll write release notes later on what has changed,
Andreas *********************************************************************
This hopefully a fix for some of the problems regarding the package manager.
This is a *BETA* test of an upcoming online update. Take care! Ciao, Marcus
Good i miss YOU! The new updater suxx :P Regards /Mattias Ken Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:42 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 14:02, ianseeks wrote:
... I'd rather have YOU back in my system tray until such time this program has been fixed.
Hi Ian,
FYI, the desktop applet that's been removed is called "SUSEWatcher," not "YOU". SUSEWatcher's job is to 'live' in the system tray and check for updates in the background. "YOU" is short for YaST Online Update, which is the module you launch from within YaST Control Center that is used to actually download and install the patches/updates.
Therefore,
Bring back YOU !!!
should actually be "Bring back SUSEWatcher!!!"
I'm not actually endorsing this, but I'm sure you want your opinion to be understood.
From the factory list:
********************************************************************* I'm just putting our current packages to ftp.suse.com and mirrors for testing:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/
If the test is successfull, those packages will go out next week as online update. I'll write release notes later on what has changed,
Andreas *********************************************************************
This hopefully a fix for some of the problems regarding the package manager.
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On Tuesday 23 May 2006 03:42, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2006 14:02, ianseeks wrote:
... I'd rather have YOU back in my system tray until such time this program has been fixed.
Hi Ian,
FYI, the desktop applet that's been removed is called "SUSEWatcher," not "YOU". SUSEWatcher's job is to 'live' in the system tray and check for updates in the background. "YOU" is short for YaST Online Update, which is the module you launch from within YaST Control Center that is used to actually download and install the patches/updates.
Therefore,
Bring back YOU !!!
should actually be "Bring back SUSEWatcher!!!"
I'm not actually endorsing this, but I'm sure you want your opinion to be understood.
regards,
Carl
Yes, thanks Carl. Perhaps "Bring back SuseWatcher until ZMD works and has a KDE frontend" should be the line. I think its really funny that Gnome supporters use HIG as an excuse of a failure in KDE (but not true) then blatantly create a HIG issue in KDE by using a Gnome app front end. The best example of hypocrisy i've seen in a long while.
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