I am just back from Moscone Center in San Francisco. SuSE booth was a very poor picture, compared even to Microsoft. Last year SuSE looked much better at LinuxWorld. This year it was dominated by Unbreakable, Sun, HP and IBM. I would rather present nothing at all, than such booth. I am really disappointed and worried for the SuSE future. -Kastus
Yes, well. I had a nice conversation with a Sr. VP of Technology at Bank of America. He said they had all but settled on SuSE as their platform of choice to take them into the future. He just had a few questions which I promptly butted in and answered for him about Linux and the stability of the SuSE Engineering. So with companies like BofA using SuSE and my company porting some of our software off Solaris onto SuSE. I really wouldn't worry. If you knew how much trouble SuSE had with booth setup due to nothing they did wrong. You'd probably understand why it was such a sparsely bannered booth. ;) BTW..if you saw a bald very tattooed guy hanging about at the booth at various times today..it was me. :) * Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka (kastus@tsoft.com) [020813 18:28]: ::I am just back from Moscone Center in San Francisco. ::SuSE booth was a very poor picture, compared even to ::Microsoft. Last year SuSE looked much better at LinuxWorld. :: ::This year it was dominated by Unbreakable, Sun, HP and IBM. :: ::I would rather present nothing at all, than ::such booth. I am really disappointed and worried for the SuSE future. -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- Tell me what you believe..I tell you what you should see. -DP --=====-----=====--
Hi All & Ben, who typed, among a few thingz.... <snip> .... if you saw a bald....guy....it was me. <snip> Ben, Ben, Ben, we are "folliclarly challanged!" ;-) Now, I am off to transfer my debt to the BOA.... H :-) I find your attitude very unprofessional - Unnamed Chaintech executive Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Yes, well. I had a nice conversation with a Sr. VP of Technology at Bank of America. He said they had all but settled on SuSE as their platform of choice to take them into the future. He just had a few questions which I promptly butted in and answered for him about Linux and the stability of the SuSE Engineering. So with companies like BofA using SuSE and my company porting some of our software off Solaris onto SuSE. I really wouldn't worry. If you knew how much trouble SuSE had with booth setup due to nothing they did wrong. You'd probably understand why it was such a sparsely bannered booth. ;)
BTW..if you saw a bald very tattooed guy hanging about at the booth at various times today..it was me. :)
* Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka (kastus@tsoft.com) [020813 18:28]: ::I am just back from Moscone Center in San Francisco. ::SuSE booth was a very poor picture, compared even to ::Microsoft. Last year SuSE looked much better at LinuxWorld. :: ::This year it was dominated by Unbreakable, Sun, HP and IBM. :: ::I would rather present nothing at all, than ::such booth. I am really disappointed and worried for the SuSE future.
-=Ben
--=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- Tell me what you believe..I tell you what you should see. -DP --=====-----=====--
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 06:35 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Yes, well. I had a nice conversation with a Sr. VP of Technology at Bank of America. He said they had all but settled on SuSE as their platform of choice to take them into the future. He just had a few questions which I promptly butted in and answered for him about Linux and the stability of the SuSE Engineering. So with companies like BofA using SuSE and my company porting some of our software off Solaris onto SuSE. I really wouldn't worry.
Its good to see corporate going to SuSE as that seems to be their current focus but I'm afraid I can't take BoA as an endorsement. I left BoA because of their horrendous web banking, It was totally non-intuitive, I kept getting the feeling that my account was in danger if I used their site. Their online payment system was horribly convoluted (It was harder than setting up good looking printing on linux ;-) my 2cents. -- dh
I was at the booth today also, or rather I walked past it about three times throughout the day, with not much reason to stop, thinking to myself that they must not be quite done setting it up yet. Unlike earlier posts though I didn't think it was an aesthetic issue, but a substance one. For one thing, the SuSE booth was aesthetically fabulous compared with say, the Debian booth, or even the KDE booth. But there was a certain quality missing. The users were missing. There were the brochures on the table--"SuSE Enterprise Server" "SuSE Business Solutions" or some such. No real human touch anywhere (although there was a certain stuffed Geeko lounging about... :-) It might sound silly to some, but I was looking for down-to-earth stuff for regular users--copies of the Pro-Office Disc maybe, or even the whole array of SuSE gear (yes including the dreaded t-shirts and hats.) Just my two cents. Sorry for the rambling. Been up since 5:00!!! :-) -- Bryce Hardy (Santa Rosa, CA) brycehdy@sonic.net
At the Linux Expo in London earlier this year & last year at Olympia. Suse stand was professional looking with on hand technical & sales people. Giving the impression of a professionally run company. Also last year's Expo Suse had close ties IBM with a talk in an auditorium on Suse products & IBM future with Linux/Suse. There was at these shows Alan Cox, Stephen Tweedie etc.. It is really a good thing having at these shows people like this, & that they are readily answering group or personal one on one questions is helpful. These shows are small in comparison to the M$ types, but glitz & glamour is one thing, substance is another. I think that if Linux exhibitions take abit from the Expo's here in the UK they could go a long way. My 2 cents worth Dre ;)
* Bryce Hardy (brycehdy@sonic.net) [020813 22:50]:
It might sound silly to some, but I was looking for down-to-earth stuff for regular users--copies of the Pro-Office Disc maybe, or even the whole array of SuSE gear (yes including the dreaded t-shirts and hats.)
We were giving all of those out (even the CDs), just not a lot of them. I gave away probably 4 full sets of 8.0 professional disks to people who stopped to talk to me about the mailinglists, etc. -- -ckm
* Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka (kastus@tsoft.com) [020813 18:27]:
I would rather present nothing at all, than such booth. I am really disappointed and worried for the SuSE future.
Wow, thanks. So we can count on you to come help next year? It's really not our fault that company that was supposed to produce the signs lost them at the last minute and that booth company didn't even start building ours until 4pm the day before (incorrectly) and didn't finish until 10 minutes before the doors opened. -- -ckm
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 07:14:27PM -0700, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
* Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka (kastus@tsoft.com) [020813 18:27]:
I would rather present nothing at all, than such booth. I am really disappointed and worried for the SuSE future.
Wow, thanks. So we can count on you to come help next year?
Sure you can. I wish I could have helped with anything this year. It was a bitter feeling to see the booth this year.
It's really not our fault that company that was supposed to produce the signs lost them at the last minute and that booth company didn't even start building ours until 4pm the day before (incorrectly) and didn't finish until 10 minutes before the doors opened.
Thank you for the explanation. And if you need a helping hand, I am always ready. I am located in Walnut Creek. Regards, -Kastus
* Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka (kastus@tsoft.com) [020813 19:25]:
Thank you for the explanation. And if you need a helping hand, I am always ready. I am located in Walnut Creek.
Trade shows really suck. Why didn't you stop to say 'hi'? I was at the booth all day... -- -ckm
* Matthew Johnson (matthew@psychohorse.com) [020814 14:35]:
Trade shows are cool, if you're not the one doing work :P. Actually...Who will be there tomorrow, Thursday?
I don't know if I'll be back but Chris Mason (Reiserfs) will there all week and some others from the Oakland office. -- -ckm
Aaaahaa! Microsoft conspiracy!! ??
Wow, thanks. So we can count on you to come help next year? It's really not our fault that company that was supposed to produce the signs lost them at the last minute and that booth company didn't even start building ours until 4pm the day before (incorrectly) and didn't finish until 10 minutes before the doors opened.
If anyone is there, please stop into the Compaq/Hp booth and bother Tom Yee and Alanna Dwyer for me :-) -- Jerry Feldman Enterprise Systems Group Hewlett-Packard Company 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/
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