Re: [opensuse] Various Novell clients for Linux
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 10:56 +0000, Edwin Caveney wrote:
Have you tried using SLED instead of openSUSE. This is Novells version of SUSE, the Novell client works fine on SLED it isn't installed by default but you don't have to hack anything once you have it installed it.
Of course that would probably address this. But I do not need to do so to get MS support in Yast. So Novell's free OS invests effort in making the YaST-based access to MS work, but no effort seems to be given to do the same for their own Netware. I still think it seems a bit odd. There is not even a web shop where I can buy these RPMs for openSUSE. Or, in my case where we have a site license for all Novell products (or so I have been told), openSUSE is not in the mix. I know openSUSE is not a Novell product. But I would have expected it to have interoperability with Novell as a design goal. It is, after all, not unrelated to Novell. Is there a stated policy on what Novell intend with support for their protocols in products such as openSUSE? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- "On two occasions I have been asked (by members of Parliament!), 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage 1791-1871) English computer pioneer, philosopher And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Of course that would probably address this. But I do not need to do so to get MS support in Yast. So Novell's free OS invests effort in making the YaST-based access to MS work, but no effort seems to be given to do the same for their own Netware. I still think it seems a bit odd.
The MS support in Yast you talk about are not created by Novell these are Linux tools that you will find on other Linux Distros such as Ubuntu.
There is not even a web shop where I can buy these RPMs for openSUSE. Or, in my case where we have a site license for all Novell products (or so I have been told), openSUSE is not in the mix. I know openSUSE is not a Novell product. But I would have expected it to have interoperability with Novell as a design goal. It is, after all, not unrelated to Novell.
I get your point but the fact remains that yes Novell is a part of openSUSE but it uses its own version of it which is SLES and SLED, these 2 products would be supported by Novell were as openSUSE is a separate operating system aimed at the Linux Community, it has no real links for Netware as this is not its goal. If you want this you will have to use SLED. Go to the Novell website and search for SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop(SLED) this is Novells version of openSUSE best suited for use in a Novell environment.
Is there a stated policy on what Novell intend with support for their protocols in products such as openSUSE?
-- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- "On two occasions I have been asked (by members of Parliament!), 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage 1791-1871) English computer pioneer, philosopher And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org "SAVE THE PLANET - PLEASE DO NOT PRINT THIS EMAIL UNLESS STRICTLY NECESSARY" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 14:02 +0000, Edwin Caveney wrote:
Of course that would probably address this. But I do not need to do so to get MS support in Yast. So Novell's free OS invests effort in making the YaST-based access to MS work, but no effort seems to be given to do the same for their own Netware. I still think it seems a bit odd.
The MS support in Yast you talk about are not created by Novell these are Linux tools that you will find on other Linux Distros such as Ubuntu.
I think the support in YasT is indeed from SUSE. I do not mean the Samba part that all Linux distros use. I mean the tools in Yast that ease the setup of things like joining an Active Directory (which work great).
There is not even a web shop where I can buy these RPMs for openSUSE. Or, in my case where we have a site license for all Novell products (or so I have been told), openSUSE is not in the mix. I know openSUSE is not a Novell product. But I would have expected it to have interoperability with Novell as a design goal. It is, after all, not unrelated to Novell.
I get your point but the fact remains that yes Novell is a part of openSUSE but it uses its own version of it which is SLES and SLED, these 2 products would be supported by Novell were as openSUSE is a separate operating system aimed at the Linux Community, it has no real links for Netware as this is not its goal. If you want this you will have to use SLED. Go to the Novell website and search for SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop(SLED) this is Novells version of openSUSE best suited for use in a Novell environment.
It is not a price issue. It is an availability issue. I could not buy an RPM designed for openSUSE 11.0 (or any current openSUSE release when that release is made available). It does not exist. I could get old RPMs and fiddle with them and make symlinks here and there and pray an upgrade does not zap it all away. But I use this as my work environment. I just find it odd that openSUSE makes the effort with Windows, but even for a cost, there is no client for Netware. If openSUSE can allow install of the nvidia drivers, surely Netware is not less open.
Is there a stated policy on what Novell intend with support for their protocols in products such as openSUSE?
-- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- "On two occasions I have been asked (by members of Parliament!), 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage 1791-1871) English computer pioneer, philosopher And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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