[opensuse] Bash terminal window misbehavior.
Every time I open up a terminal window it's opening as wide as my screen. What is the method to stop this automatic widening? KDE 4.7.2 on openSUSE 12.1 Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2012 03:39 AM, Steven Hess wrote:
Every time I open up a terminal window it's opening as wide as my screen. What is the method to stop this automatic widening?
KDE 4.7.2 on openSUSE 12.1
(mine is 4.6.0 on 11.4 so not everything there may match what i have) KDE offers several "terminal windows" by following Menu > Applications > System > Terminal that path on my system reveals: Konsole, LXTerminal, Terminal - Super User Mode, XTerm, and Yakuake additionally there are the full screen terminals available using the key combo Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6.. as each has a differnt way to adjust size, please specify which.. dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM, DenverD <DenverD@mail.dk> wrote:
On 07/24/2012 03:39 AM, Steven Hess wrote:
Every time I open up a terminal window it's opening as wide as my screen. What is the method to stop this automatic widening?
KDE 4.7.2 on openSUSE 12.1
(mine is 4.6.0 on 11.4 so not everything there may match what i have)
KDE offers several "terminal windows" by following Menu > Applications > System > Terminal
that path on my system reveals: Konsole, LXTerminal, Terminal - Super User Mode, XTerm, and Yakuake
additionally there are the full screen terminals available using the key combo Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6..
as each has a differnt way to adjust size, please specify which..
dd
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Konsole is the terminal application. It's the default terminal application. Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/2012 08:17 AM, Steven Hess wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM, DenverD <DenverD@mail.dk> wrote:
On 07/24/2012 03:39 AM, Steven Hess wrote:
Every time I open up a terminal window it's opening as wide as my screen. What is the method to stop this automatic widening?
KDE 4.7.2 on openSUSE 12.1
(mine is 4.6.0 on 11.4 so not everything there may match what i have)
KDE offers several "terminal windows" by following Menu > Applications > System > Terminal
that path on my system reveals: Konsole, LXTerminal, Terminal - Super User Mode, XTerm, and Yakuake
additionally there are the full screen terminals available using the key combo Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6..
as each has a differnt way to adjust size, please specify which..
dd
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Konsole is the terminal application. It's the default terminal application.
Konsole is one of several terminal applications default installed with KDE and probably the easiest of all to fix the sizing "misbehavior": grab a corner and size it the way you wish, then when finished close that window...it _should_ (the next time you open it) pop up with exactly the same size and location as it was last closed.. or, let me say that that is the behavior i see here...and, i think that has been the default behavior for Konsole for a long while now.. otoh, if yours does not open as closed: there are controls that can be adjusted--i don't think i have done anything to change mine, but maybe you have and the result might therefore be as you describe.. the setting that _might_ [i say might because i don't know if you have adjusted yours, or i adjusted mine] be causing the open each time at full screen width might be accessed by right clicking the Konsole icon in the corner of the header bar, and then selecting Advanced > "Special Window Settings" in mine, which causes it to open as closed: Window tab: "Window settings for konsole" in 'Description:', "konsole" in 'Window Class (application type):', and "mainwindow#1" in 'Window role', with both spinners set to 'Exact Match' Window Extra tab has "Normal Window" highlighted and all other blanks grayed over or blank Geometry, Preferences and Workarounds tabs all have *none* of the items checked/active.. [i don't believe you can cause the behavior described by clicking on Setting in the Konsole's menu bar, or in the right click and select Configure Window Behavior...there probably is, however be some setting bits in a config file, somewhere (??)] dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:58 AM, DenverD <DenverD@mail.dk> wrote:
On 07/24/2012 08:17 AM, Steven Hess wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM, DenverD <DenverD@mail.dk> wrote:
On 07/24/2012 03:39 AM, Steven Hess wrote:
Every time I open up a terminal window it's opening as wide as my screen. What is the method to stop this automatic widening?
KDE 4.7.2 on openSUSE 12.1
(mine is 4.6.0 on 11.4 so not everything there may match what i have)
KDE offers several "terminal windows" by following Menu > Applications > System > Terminal
that path on my system reveals: Konsole, LXTerminal, Terminal - Super User Mode, XTerm, and Yakuake
additionally there are the full screen terminals available using the key combo Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6..
as each has a differnt way to adjust size, please specify which..
dd
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Konsole is the terminal application. It's the default terminal application.
Konsole is one of several terminal applications default installed with KDE and probably the easiest of all to fix the sizing "misbehavior":
grab a corner and size it the way you wish, then when finished close that window...it _should_ (the next time you open it) pop up with exactly the same size and location as it was last closed..
or, let me say that that is the behavior i see here...and, i think that has been the default behavior for Konsole for a long while now..
otoh, if yours does not open as closed: there are controls that can be adjusted--i don't think i have done anything to change mine, but maybe you have and the result might therefore be as you describe..
the setting that _might_ [i say might because i don't know if you have adjusted yours, or i adjusted mine] be causing the open each time at full screen width might be accessed by right clicking the Konsole icon in the corner of the header bar, and then selecting Advanced > "Special Window Settings"
in mine, which causes it to open as closed:
Window tab: "Window settings for konsole" in 'Description:', "konsole" in 'Window Class (application type):', and "mainwindow#1" in 'Window role', with both spinners set to 'Exact Match'
Window Extra tab has "Normal Window" highlighted and all other blanks grayed over or blank
Geometry, Preferences and Workarounds tabs all have *none* of the items checked/active..
[i don't believe you can cause the behavior described by clicking on Setting in the Konsole's menu bar, or in the right click and select Configure Window Behavior...there probably is, however be some setting bits in a config file, somewhere (??)]
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This reopening in last closed window size is exactly what it is not doing. I checked and very thing is as you described it in settings. I even un-checked the box for windows sizing and closed Konsole and reopened it and re-checked the sizing box each time resizing the window before closing. It was to no avail. The window was stretched to full screen width and still is. I had never modified the windows behavior prior to this set I just tried. This is why I am asking the list. Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Steven Hess wrote:
Konsole is the terminal application. It's the default terminal application.
I had never modified the windows behavior prior to this set I just tried.
This is why I am asking the list.
You need to think about how other people reading your mail may interpret it, not about what you know is the 'correct' way to interpret it. If you had simply stated 'Konsole' in the beginning, you would have avoided any doubt. If you had said at the beginning that you had not modified behavior, then again there would have been no uncertainty. You want other people to read and fully understand your problem as easily and quickly as possible, so they can help you better. So be specific with details wherever you can. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Dave Howorth <dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
Steven Hess wrote:
Konsole is the terminal application. It's the default terminal application.
I had never modified the windows behavior prior to this set I just tried.
This is why I am asking the list.
You need to think about how other people reading your mail may interpret it, not about what you know is the 'correct' way to interpret it.
If you had simply stated 'Konsole' in the beginning, you would have avoided any doubt.
If you had said at the beginning that you had not modified behavior, then again there would have been no uncertainty.
You want other people to read and fully understand your problem as easily and quickly as possible, so they can help you better. So be specific with details wherever you can. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Once again response from the list that doesn't even address the question asked. Can we stop this on the list? If you don't have an answer resist responding. Now can some one address the question? Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Steven Hess wrote:
Once again response from the list that doesn't even address the question asked. Can we stop this on the list? If you don't have an answer resist responding.
Now can some one address the question?
Steven
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Dave Howorth <dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
Steven Hess wrote:
Once again response from the list that doesn't even address the question asked. Can we stop this on the list? If you don't have an answer resist responding.
Now can some one address the question?
Steven
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No one cares Dave. It's no small wonder the distro seems like it is dying. Most folks will not put up with this stiff and just move on. Thanks for killing the thread Dave. Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I see you checked some of the settings, there are two of them right click the title bar of a newly opened window> advanced>special window settings> geometry, check "size the same exist for special program settings instead of special windows settings have you checked both? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Martin Helm <martin@mhelm.de> wrote:
I see you checked some of the settings, there are two of them
right click the title bar of a newly opened window> advanced>special window settings> geometry, check "size the same exist for special program settings instead of special windows settings
have you checked both?
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Martin Looking at both of them they appear identical as far as size goes. That is to say the same number is given in both configuration windows and the size is not checked off and "do not effect" is the status. The defaulting size is given as 1920.551 which is the full width. The position is 0.0 No boxes are checked off n either form Thanks. Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 24.07.2012 13:57, schrieb Steven Hess:
Martin Looking at both of them they appear identical as far as size goes. That is to say the same number is given in both configuration windows and the size is not checked off and "do not effect" is the status. The defaulting size is given as 1920.551 which is the full width. The position is 0.0 No boxes are checked off n either form Thanks. Steven I hoped that it was by accident set in one of them so that you can disable setting the size, otherwise I have almost no clue what it can be. Just to be sure it is something in your users/session settings at all, can you create a new user "dummy" or similar and log into KDE as that new user and see how konsole behaves there? Just to narrow a bit if it is something special to your users KDE settings or some system wide behavior caused by whatever.
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I will do so and I will report back. It will be a few days time, maybe next week as I'll be away. Thank you Martin. Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Steven Hess <flamebait@gmail.com> [07-24-12 07:10]:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Dave Howorth <dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
Steven Hess wrote:
Once again response from the list that doesn't even address the question asked. Can we stop this on the list? If you don't have an answer resist responding.
Question was not presented with sufficient information to warrent wasting one's time. Dave merely explained why.
Now can some one address the question?
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can you not trim your posts!
No one cares Dave.
correction: *You* don't care which you have demonstrated.
It's no small wonder the distro seems like it is dying.
Most folks will not put up with this stiff and just move on.
Thanks for killing the thread Dave.
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* Steven Hess <flamebait@gmail.com> [07-24-12 07:10]:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Dave Howorth <dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
Steven Hess wrote:
Once again response from the list that doesn't even address the question asked. Can we stop this on the list? If you don't have an answer resist responding.
Question was not presented with sufficient information to warrent wasting one's time. Dave merely explained why.
Now can some one address the question?
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can you not trim your posts!
No one cares Dave.
correction: *You* don't care which you have demonstrated.
It's no small wonder the distro seems like it is dying.
Most folks will not put up with this stiff and just move on.
Thanks for killing the thread Dave.
/s/Dave/Steven
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Patrick Why do you all insist on going on thinking you accomplish something with your self appointed mission to make people more clued in? I gave what was I felt sufficient information. I gave the release number and the desktop system version number. If more information is required I'll gladly provide it when asked by those interested in helping solve the problem. This is off topic. The list really needs moderation Steven -- ____________ Apply appropriate technology. Use what works without prejudice. Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 KDE 4.7.2 Known as FlameBait and The Sock Puppet of Doom. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 05:26:06 -0700 Steven Hess <flamebait@gmail.com> wrote:
The list really needs moderation
Well, not possible at the moment, but just a thicker skin, ie. ability to ignore interactions that you don't find useful, will help with or without moderators :) -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2012, 22:14:24 schrieb Rajko:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 05:26:06 -0700 Steven Hess <flamebait@gmail.com> wrote:
The list really needs moderation
Well, not possible at the moment, but just a thicker skin, ie. ability to ignore interactions that you don't find useful, will help with or without moderators :)
It's true nevertheless that a good posting style is helpful and ignoring that fact consciously pretty lame – to put it nicely. It's true that telling people they can improve their style does not help for criticism-resistant beings who do not care about others. Hence the list should get some AI, warn them once and kick them if they continue to spam the list with full quotes etc. If it becomes automatic nobody can take it personal or claim that people just give hints regarding quoting style because they run out of arguments or anything alike. It's not about being a quote-nazi but simply about everybody doing its best to increase the readability. Maybe I'm doing those people wrong and there is really a decease that prevents people from being able to trim text. My bad! http://learn.to/quote/ Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/24/12 23:14, Rajko pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 05:26:06 -0700 Steven Hess <flamebait@gmail.com> wrote:
The list really needs moderation
Well, not possible at the moment, but just a thicker skin, ie. ability to ignore interactions that you don't find useful, will help with or without moderators :)
That's how I treat the trolls. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2012, 05:26:06 schrieb Steven Hess:
Patrick Why do you all insist on going on thinking you accomplish something with your self appointed mission to make people more clued in?
I gave what was I felt sufficient information. I gave the release number and the desktop system version number. If more information is required I'll gladly provide it when asked by those interested in helping solve the problem. This is off topic.
The list really needs moderation
If so s/he would only ask you to please read the official netiquette for openSUSE's mailinglists. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette#Quoting Let me guess, you do not care but only if others are told off by a moderator? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-07-24 14:26, Steven Hess wrote:
Patrick Why do you all insist on going on thinking you accomplish something with your self appointed mission to make people more clued in?
I gave what was I felt sufficient information. I gave the release number and the desktop system version number. If more information is required I'll gladly provide it when asked by those interested in helping solve the problem. This is off topic.
The list really needs moderation
But there is no such thing - if there were one, he would tell you right now that you have to trim the quoted material in your posts :-) Steven, you may not like it, but both Patrick and Dave are right, you should have given more information from the start, like what terminal you were using. Yes, we can assume konsole, but that is in doubt; this delayed answers about 6 hours There is such a thing as the art of asking questions cleverly in mail lists in order to get the right answers. There is even a howto. Next time you will do it better, ok? Take it in good spirit - after all, you should not get surprised we do, with an email like you have ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlAP5EwACgkQja8UbcUWM1ztPAD9FxtCKQ0TMiaDaBUl5g5FHmKG 2Zr6oISJq5H37emw+aIA/3VxIwT1mTPc6nbEUd6YWrnr/u7XuX1h3f/e7iH37VLh =USNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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