Hello :-) SUSE Linux used to offer floppies images on the /boot directory of the first disk. these images couls be made from linux or from Windows. There where a windows start app on the first cd and inserting it in a windows machine gave the choice of booting linux (the cd) or making floppies. this is no more available (10.0). There is a perl utility (mkbootdisk) that build the (7) floppies. so: * where are the floppies images? Looks like they are cat'ed (on the "rescue" 21Mb file?) - how are they built with the script, reading it didn't gave me enough clues, * if so why does rawrite still exist in the cd? don't seem anymore usefull. (perl is not that usual on windows :-) * what is the real + in this system? are the 64 bits floppies so similar to 32 one is enough to change just some bits? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, jdd wrote:
Hello :-)
SUSE Linux used to offer floppies images on the /boot directory of the first disk.
these images couls be made from linux or from Windows. There where a windows start app on the first cd and inserting it in a windows machine gave the choice of booting linux (the cd) or making floppies.
this is no more available (10.0).
They are. On ftp.suse.com.
There is a perl utility (mkbootdisk) that build the (7) floppies.
so:
* where are the floppies images? Looks like they are cat'ed
They are created by that script you mentioned. Pre-build versions for 10.0 are on our ftp server.
(on the "rescue" 21Mb file?) - how are they built with the script, reading it didn't gave me enough clues,
* if so why does rawrite still exist in the cd? don't seem anymore usefull. (perl is not that usual on windows :-)
Download the images and burn them. If you think that's too esoteric: we usually forget to put out pre-build floppy images and are reminded by customers asking our supporters. :-)
* what is the real + in this system? are the 64 bits floppies so similar to 32 one is enough to change just some bits?
??? You can create 32 and 64 bit images (or bi-arch, if you really have that many floppies). Steffen
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
this is no more available (10.0).
They are. On ftp.suse.com.
what is no more available is the boot from windows option... good for the floppies. ftp is enough.
* where are the floppies images? Looks like they are cat'ed
They are created by that script you mentioned. Pre-build versions for 10.0 are on our ftp server.
"created"? but from something :-). I try to understand why it's not done with the bare images, that seems simpler than a script :-)
* if so why does rawrite still exist in the cd? don't seem anymore usefull. (perl is not that usual on windows :-)
Download the images and burn them. If you think that's too esoteric: we usually forget to put out pre-build floppy images and are reminded by customers asking our supporters. :-)
not for me. I write a course on SUSE admin, using old machines as testbed, so as anybody can afford one. So floppies are awfull but often necessary (it's surprising how many computer can't boot from cd :-()
* what is the real + in this system? are the 64 bits floppies so similar to 32 one is enough to change just some bits?
???
You can create 32 and 64 bit images (or bi-arch, if you really have that many floppies).
mkbootdisks can make 32 or 64 bits floppies, I don't really know why. (can't you start a 64 bit install with a 32bits floppy?) and this script is smart, but a little too smart for me :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, jdd wrote:
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
* where are the floppies images? Looks like they are cat'ed
They are created by that script you mentioned. Pre-build versions for 10.0 are on our ftp server.
"created"? but from something :-). I try to understand why it's not done with the bare images, that seems simpler than a script :-)
It's wasting space on CD1. And even more on bi-arch CDs. And they are just that rarely used.
* if so why does rawrite still exist in the cd? don't seem anymore usefull. (perl is not that usual on windows :-)
Download the images and burn them. If you think that's too esoteric: we usually forget to put out pre-build floppy images and are reminded by customers asking our supporters. :-)
not for me. I write a course on SUSE admin, using old machines as testbed, so as anybody can afford one. So floppies are awfull but often necessary (it's surprising how many computer can't boot from cd :-()
If they are that old, you're sure you want to run kde or gnome on it? :-) IIRC desktop PCs started to be CD-bootable around the time Win95 came out.
You can create 32 and 64 bit images (or bi-arch, if you really have that many floppies).
mkbootdisks can make 32 or 64 bits floppies, I don't really know why. (can't you start a 64 bit install with a 32bits floppy?)
Ehm, no. You want to run a 64-bit kernel for a 64-bit install.
and this script is smart, but a little too smart for me :-(
It's very trivial. It (basically) copies /boot/xxx/loader to a FAT-image and splits it in 1.44MB parts. Steffen
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
It's wasting space on CD1. And even more on bi-arch CDs. And they are just that rarely used.
i didn't see you can just make them from loader parts, so easily :-)
If they are that old, you're sure you want to run kde or gnome on it? :-)
who speaks of kde??? didn't you hear about windowmaker? anyway, As use these computers as gateways, screenless and so, graphics... I need only ssh access :-)
Ehm, no. You want to run a 64-bit kernel for a 64-bit install.
ok. 64bits where rare (I've seen a linux on alpha...) but with the new AMD...
It's very trivial. It (basically) copies /boot/xxx/loader to a FAT-image and splits it in 1.44MB parts.
understood :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, jdd wrote:
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
It's wasting space on CD1. And even more on bi-arch CDs. And they are just that rarely used.
i didn't see you can just make them from loader parts, so easily :-)
If they are that old, you're sure you want to run kde or gnome on it? :-)
who speaks of kde??? didn't you hear about windowmaker?
Real man use twm. Steffen
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