first, The name of this product is SuSE Enterprise Server 8 and it means....SuSE takes the responsibility to provide the newest configuration in this package. Man, this SuSE Enterprise Server 8 has only KDE 3.0 and a lot of old software even this is the newest version of enterprise edition package. second, I got this error message : " Sie haben einen fehlerhaften Registriercode angegeben! " if I tried to use my valid registration code (the number is written on my "SuSE maintenance Program" card) for this SuSE Enterprise Server 8 on this site : http://support.suse.de/form . I hope you see a lot of ridiculous things in this package. Each software or any product, if they use "Enterprise" as the name of their product must be as complete as possible because it is used by an enterprise and because it cost very expensive, included : Microsoft, Sun Solaris, CISCO etc. Well, anyway I learned from this experience that not all of the SuSE product satisfies their customers... Thank you very much. --- John Pettigrew wrote:

In a previous message, Prabu Subroto wrote:

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I was so surprised after bought expensively SuSE Enterprise Server 8. I thought it is as new as SuSE 9.0 and as complete as SuSE 9.0, but this SuSE Enterprise Server 8 is exactly as old as SuSE 8.0. What a ridiculous product it is.

Can't help you with the password but I can't help feeling that buying something expensive without making sure what it is was perhaps a foolish move on your part and not something that you can blame SuSE for.

FWIW, Enterprise versions (of most things) lag behind consumer versions because they have to be more reliable.

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OK, I'll tell my networks in IT business to not buy SuSE Enterprise Server because it is only a shit. Thank you for your advise. ps. a business men may say "foolish" to anybodyelse except their customer. and Enterprise word has been dirted by SuSE AG. And my networks must be more be carefull about this word because it can be means "a trap/lie" . --- Chris Geske wrote:

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-----Original Message----- From: Prabu Subroto [mailto:prabusubroto@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:00 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Re: SuSE Enterprise 8 is only a lie?

first, The name of this product is SuSE Enterprise Server 8 and it means....SuSE takes the responsibility to provide the newest configuration in this package. Man, this SuSE Enterprise Server 8 has only KDE 3.0 and a lot of old software even this is the newest version of enterprise edition package.

second, I got this error message : " Sie haben einen fehlerhaften Registriercode angegeben! " if I tried to use my valid registration code (the number is written on my "SuSE maintenance Program" card) for this SuSE Enterprise Server 8 on this site : http://support.suse.de/form .

I hope you see a lot of ridiculous things in this package.

Each software or any product, if they use "Enterprise" as the name of their product must be as complete as possible because it is used by an enterprise and because it cost very expensive, included : Microsoft, Sun Solaris, CISCO etc.

Well, anyway I learned from this experience that not all of the SuSE product satisfies their customers...

Enterprise uses the latest stable version of the software. The newer versions of the packages you mentioned haven't proven themselves as mission critical as of yet. You wouldn't want to run them on a Enterprise Server no matter what.

I think you have the whole general concept of Enterprise confused.

If you used any other enterprise software from other vendors you'll see the same thing. Except for microsoft software to some degree.

You should not be running bleeding edge software on a server, you'll run into a boatload of problems, and regret your decision.

chris

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Oh boy! Your obviously ignoring the replies as to what enterprise software really is. You got exactly what you paid for, but perhaps you didn't know what you wanted to begin with. Do you plan on running any enterprise applications on this server? If not, you wasted your money. If you do, however, plan to run some enterprise apps, you bought (in my opinion) the best enterprise linux operating system available today. If you don't think so, try another vendor, you'll find your in exactly the same boat. chris

-----Original Message----- From: John Pettigrew [mailto:john@xl-cambridge.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:07 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Re: Re: SuSE Enterprise 8 is only a lie?

In a previous message, Prabu Subroto wrote:

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OK, I'll tell my networks in IT business to not buy SuSE Enterprise Server because it is only a shit.

Thank you for your advise.

In a previous message, Prabu Subroto wrote:

first, The name of this product is SuSE Enterprise Server 8 and it means....SuSE takes the responsibility to provide the newest configuration in this package. Man, this SuSE Enterprise Server 8 has only KDE 3.0 and a lot of old software even this is the newest version of enterprise edition package.

I think you've missed the point of "Enterprise". With this package, SuSE supplied the latest *stable* versions *at the time*. SLE8 has now been out for some time so will inevitable be "out of date", although this isn't such an issue for an Enterprise package, which will always place stability above cutting-edge features. Also, SLE8 comes with a far better support package than the consumer distro. But if you did your research before making major purchasing decisions, you'd know that. Sorry for the tone, but I can have little sympathy with someone being surprised by the content of something they've bought when the details are readily available - even proclaimed. John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!