Am 02.04.2016 um 18:02 schrieb Per Jessen:

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

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On 02/04/16 07:25 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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In Leap421 / Plasma5 when I hit PrtScr, I get a little pop-up called "Spectacle" which informs me a screenshot has been placed in /home/per/Pictures and stored as png.

How do I revert to the previous behaviour from e.g. KDE4 where the screenshot is presented to me with options such as "Save as..." and "Send to..." ?

Uninstall spectacle; install ksnapshot.

Really? That would be a brilliant answer!

What's wrong with that answer? Ksnapshot works perfectly. Is there any advantage using spectacle? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 02.04.2016 um 18:26 schrieb Per Jessen:

Daniel Bauer wrote:

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Am 02.04.2016 um 18:02 schrieb Per Jessen:

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Darryl Gregorash wrote:

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On 02/04/16 07:25 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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In Leap421 / Plasma5 when I hit PrtScr, I get a little pop-up called "Spectacle" which informs me a screenshot has been placed in /home/per/Pictures and stored as png.

How do I revert to the previous behaviour from e.g. KDE4 where the screenshot is presented to me with options such as "Save as..." and "Send to..." ?

Uninstall spectacle; install ksnapshot.

Really? That would be a brilliant answer!

What's wrong with that answer? Ksnapshot works perfectly. Is there any advantage using spectacle?

Nothing wrong with the answer, it just sounds too easy to be true. I'll go and try it out later.

As hitting print-screen did nothing I installed Ksnapshot on my leap with Yast. It showed the conflict with spectacle and offered to uninstall it. It was a matter of seconds and now hitting print-screen does what one thinks it should do, without the need for pressing several keys or remembering some sophisticated procedural methods... :-) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Le 02/04/2016 19:17, Daniel Bauer a écrit :

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It was a matter of seconds and now hitting print-screen does what one thinks it should do, without the need for pressing several keys or remembering some sophisticated procedural methods...

:-)

I have no problem doing the same thing with spectacle that is very similar to ksnapshot

Absolutely, as long as either method works, but in the default setup, it doesn't. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Florian Gleixner wrote:

On 04/02/2016 03:25 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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In Leap421 / Plasma5 when I hit PrtScr, I get a little pop-up called "Spectacle" which informs me a screenshot has been placed in /home/per/Pictures and stored as png.

How do I revert to the previous behaviour from e.g. KDE4 where the screenshot is presented to me with options such as "Save as..." and "Send to..." ?

Check configure desktop -> global keyboard shortcuts -> KDE daemon. I have "Start screenshot tool" connected to the key "Print", and active window/full screenshot connected to Meta+Print and Shift+Print.

If i hit print, i get the spectacle menu. If i hit Shift+Print, i only get the notification you described.

Currently, when I hit PrtScr, nothing happens. Look at the settings you describe, nothing is connected to "Start screenshot tool", but "Print" is connected to "Printscreen". This may sound a little stupid, but how do I change those aassigments? -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/02/2016 10:21 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Florian Gleixner wrote:

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On 04/02/2016 03:25 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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In Leap421 / Plasma5 when I hit PrtScr, I get a little pop-up called "Spectacle" which informs me a screenshot has been placed in /home/per/Pictures and stored as png.

How do I revert to the previous behaviour from e.g. KDE4 where the screenshot is presented to me with options such as "Save as..." and "Send to..." ?

Check configure desktop -> global keyboard shortcuts -> KDE daemon. I have "Start screenshot tool" connected to the key "Print", and active window/full screenshot connected to Meta+Print and Shift+Print.

If i hit print, i get the spectacle menu. If i hit Shift+Print, i only get the notification you described. Currently, when I hit PrtScr, nothing happens. Look at the settings you describe, nothing is connected to "Start screenshot tool", but "Print" is connected to "Printscreen". This may sound a little stupid, but how do I change those aassigments?

On TW, the Default for "Start Screenshot Tool" on my machine is assigned to "Print". When I press the PrtScn button on my keyboard, Spectacle automatically opens with a preview of the snapshot, and from there I can save it wherever I want. KSnapshot is being replaced by Spectacle as part of the old KDE 4.x programs and libraries not being supported any longer. The blog post I read about Spectacle a while back can be found here if you are interested: https://blogs.kde.org/2015/08/12/ksnapshot-next -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

sdm wrote:

On 04/02/2016 10:21 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Florian Gleixner wrote:

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On 04/02/2016 03:25 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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In Leap421 / Plasma5 when I hit PrtScr, I get a little pop-up called "Spectacle" which informs me a screenshot has been placed in /home/per/Pictures and stored as png.

How do I revert to the previous behaviour from e.g. KDE4 where the screenshot is presented to me with options such as "Save as..." and "Send to..." ?

Check configure desktop -> global keyboard shortcuts -> KDE daemon. I have "Start screenshot tool" connected to the key "Print", and active window/full screenshot connected to Meta+Print and Shift+Print.

If i hit print, i get the spectacle menu. If i hit Shift+Print, i only get the notification you described. Currently, when I hit PrtScr, nothing happens. Look at the settings you describe, nothing is connected to "Start screenshot tool", but "Print" is connected to "Printscreen". This may sound a little stupid, but how do I change those aassigments?

On TW, the Default for "Start Screenshot Tool" on my machine is assigned to "Print". When I press the PrtScn button on my keyboard, Spectacle automatically opens with a preview of the snapshot, and from there I can save it wherever I want. KSnapshot is being replaced by Spectacle as part of the old KDE 4.x programs and libraries not being supported any longer.

I don't mind which screenshot tool I use as long as it works. Right now, on Leap421, it doesn't. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Le 03/04/2016 11:08, Per Jessen a écrit :

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I don't mind which screenshot tool I use as long as it works. Right now, on Leap421, it doesn't.

don't know how you do, it works for me

I press PrtScr, but nothing happens. -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. schreef op 03-04-16 12:48:

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On Sunday, 2016-04-03 at 11:39 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

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jdd wrote:

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Le 03/04/2016 11:08, Per Jessen a écrit :

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I don't mind which screenshot tool I use as long as it works. Right now, on Leap421, it doesn't.

don't know how you do, it works for me

I press PrtScr, but nothing happens.

I read somewhere that for people on whose machines ksnapshot. got replaced by spectacle, by an update, the key bindings and perhaps other configurations were not correctly updated automatically. So you have to remove the old binding for ksnapshot and add new ones for spectacle.

It is probable that a new user will get it right.

Probably not relevant, but Kubuntu 16.04 KDE doesn't have PrtScr bound. I really hate making configuration changes. I keep starting KSnapshot via the menu (type "snap"). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 03.04.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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On Sunday, 2016-04-03 at 11:39 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

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jdd wrote:

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Le 03/04/2016 11:08, Per Jessen a écrit :

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I don't mind which screenshot tool I use as long as it works. Right now, on Leap421, it doesn't.

don't know how you do, it works for me

I press PrtScr, but nothing happens.

I read somewhere that for people on whose machines ksnapshot. got replaced by spectacle, by an update, the key bindings and perhaps other configurations were not correctly updated automatically. So you have to remove the old binding for ksnapshot and add new ones for spectacle.

It is probable that a new user will get it right.

No. I had a fresh install on a completely empty machine and print screen did nothing.

Danke Daniel, I thought I was the only one, maybe I was going crazy ... http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=973747 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.6°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Sunday, 2016-04-03 at 11:39 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

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I press PrtScr, but nothing happens.

I read somewhere that for people on whose machines ksnapshot. got replaced by spectacle, by an update, the key bindings and perhaps other configurations were not correctly updated automatically. So you have to remove the old binding for ksnapshot and add new ones for spectacle.

My installation is vanilla Leap421 plus updates. I use it purely for testing Leap421. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

On 03/04/16 03:39 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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jdd wrote:

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Le 03/04/2016 11:08, Per Jessen a écrit :

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I don't mind which screenshot tool I use as long as it works. Right now, on Leap421, it doesn't.

don't know how you do, it works for me I press PrtScr, but nothing happens.

System Settings/Shortcuts/Custom Shortcuts/Preset Actions, and configure to your heart's delight. May I suggest RTF(ine)M ;) first though?

Oh, I got it working, I just think it should have worked by default. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:

Op zaterdag 2 april 2016 19:21:58 CEST schreef Per Jessen:

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Florian Gleixner wrote:

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On 04/02/2016 03:25 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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In Leap421 / Plasma5 when I hit PrtScr, I get a little pop-up called "Spectacle" which informs me a screenshot has been placed in /home/per/Pictures and stored as png.

How do I revert to the previous behaviour from e.g. KDE4 where the screenshot is presented to me with options such as "Save as..." and "Send to..." ?

Check configure desktop -> global keyboard shortcuts -> KDE daemon. I have "Start screenshot tool" connected to the key "Print", and active window/full screenshot connected to Meta+Print and Shift+Print.

If i hit print, i get the spectacle menu. If i hit Shift+Print, i only get the notification you described.

Currently, when I hit PrtScr, nothing happens. Look at the settings you describe, nothing is connected to "Start screenshot tool", but "Print" is connected to "Printscreen". This may sound a little stupid, but how do I change those aassigments?

Systemsettings - Hotkeys - Special Hotkeys, the install of spectacle has added a "Screenshots" section. Define it's hotkey to PrtScn en accept replacement of the previous hotkey. Done.

Ok, thanks. I guess we'll have to investigate why that isn't the default. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 03/04/2016 11:31, Per Jessen a écrit :

annoying that Spectacle starts in / instead of my homedir.

mine start with a sreenshot of the current screen, what is usually not what I need (I need most often a rectangular part screenshot) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 03/04/2016 11:41, Per Jessen a écrit :

Spectacle probably ought to remember the dir most recently used.

it does, at least is you use the save to option I would like to be able to setup some aspects of the software (like this one) too bad :-) about PrtScr, may be it should to what is expected: print to the printer :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:

jdd wrote:

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Le 03/04/2016 11:41, Per Jessen a écrit :

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Spectacle probably ought to remember the dir most recently used.

it does, at least is you use the save to option

Ah, I'll have to test it, that would be nice.

Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, if I use "Save" or Save & exit", it saves the screenshot as PNG with a default name and into a pre-set directory. When I use "Save as...", it starts out in /, every time. For a non-root user, that's not right. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Le 03/04/2016 16:14, Per Jessen a écrit :

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Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, if I use "Save" or Save & exit", it saves the screenshot as PNG with a default name and into a pre-set directory. When I use "Save as...", it starts out in /, every time. For a non-root user, that's not right.

oh... in the save menu, at the bottom, you can choose where to save the images, the name (but not jpg as an option)

Right, but whatever I chose is not kept for the next time. And having / as default still isn't right. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Le 04/04/2016 09:54, Per Jessen a écrit :

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Right, but whatever I chose is not kept for the next time. And having / as default still isn't right.

weird, it's kept for me :-(

ah, that is weird. So you hit PrtScr, Spectacle opens, and you chose "Save as...", then change the directory and save the image. When you it again, you're back in the same directory? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am Montag, 04. April 2016 09:54 CEST, Per Jessen schrieb:

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Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, if I use "Save" or Save & exit", it saves the screenshot as PNG with a default name and into a pre-set directory. When I use "Save as...", it starts out in /, every time. For a non-root user, that's not right.

oh... in the save menu, at the bottom, you can choose where to save the images, the name (but not jpg as an option)

Right, but whatever I chose is not kept for the next time. And having / as default still isn't right.

That can happen when you don't have access right for the folders. But since saving the image succeeds, that's probably not the cause. Still, I suggest to check the permissions for all folders in the path. To work around the problem, drag the folder into the bookmark list at the right (if this is a KDE or Gnome file chooser). Also try to delete the configuration, make sure the program can save its configuration, check your journal for hard disk / file system errors. Regards, -- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:

Aaron Digulla wrote:

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Am Montag, 04. April 2016 09:54 CEST, Per Jessen schrieb:

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Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, if I use "Save" or Save & exit", it saves the screenshot as PNG with a default name and into a pre-set directory. When I use "Save as...", it starts out in /, every time. For a non-root user, that's not right.

oh... in the save menu, at the bottom, you can choose where to save the images, the name (but not jpg as an option)

Right, but whatever I chose is not kept for the next time. And having / as default still isn't right.

That can happen when you don't have access right for the folders. But since saving the image succeeds, that's probably not the cause. Still, I suggest to check the permissions for all folders in the path.

Not much to check - it's only /home/per/something.

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Also try to delete the configuration, make sure the program can save its configuration, check your journal for hard disk / file system errors.

Do you happen to know where the Spectacle config is stored?

I found /home/per/.config/spectaclerc : [General] default-save-location[$e]=$HOME/Pictures last-saved-to[$e]=$HOME/Pictures save-filename-format=Screenshot_%Y%M%D_%H%m%S [GuiConfig] includeDecorations=false includePointer=true transientOnly=false waitCaptureOnClick=false window-position=334,128 [KFileDialog Settings] Recent Files[$e]=file://$HOME/Documents/screeshot.jpeg,file://$HOME/Documents/screeshot.jpeg Recent URLs[$e]=file:///home/ "last-saved-to" looks good, but appears not to be used. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Aaron Digulla wrote:

Am 05.04.2016 um 09:51 schrieb Per Jessen:

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Per Jessen wrote:

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Aaron Digulla wrote:

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Am Montag, 04. April 2016 09:54 CEST, Per Jessen schrieb:

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> Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, if I use "Save" or Save & exit", > it saves the screenshot as PNG with a default name and into a > pre-set directory. > When I use "Save as...", it starts out in /, every time. For a > non-root user, that's not right. > oh... in the save menu, at the bottom, you can choose where to save the images, the name (but not jpg as an option) Right, but whatever I chose is not kept for the next time. And having / as default still isn't right. That can happen when you don't have access right for the folders. But since saving the image succeeds, that's probably not the cause. Still, I suggest to check the permissions for all folders in the path.

Not much to check - it's only /home/per/something.

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Also try to delete the configuration, make sure the program can save its configuration, check your journal for hard disk / file system errors. Do you happen to know where the Spectacle config is stored? I found /home/per/.config/spectaclerc : [...] [KFileDialog Settings] Recent

Files[$e]=file://$HOME/Documents/screeshot.jpeg,file://$HOME/Documents/screeshot.jpeg

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Recent URLs[$e]=file:///home/

I find the last line dubious.

Rename the file to /home/per/.config/spectaclerc.bak and check if that helps.

Nope, didn't change anything. Of course a new spectaclerc was created: cat ../.config/spectaclerc [GuiConfig] includeDecorations=false includePointer=true transientOnly=false waitCaptureOnClick=false window-position=50,50 [KFileDialog Settings] Recent Files[$e]=file://$HOME/Pictures/bshsfg.jpeg Recent URLs[$e]=file://$HOME/Pictures/,file:///home/ /Per -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Le 06/04/2016 09:12, Per Jessen a écrit :

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Nope, didn't change anything. Of course a new spectaclerc was created:

notice than for me, the behavior is pretty confusing.

I use spectacle and set a destination folder. If I use save or save and quit, spectacle use this folder, if I use save as, it opens in /

Ah, thank you - that is _exactly_ what I'm seeing too. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op zondag 3 april 2016 11:35:58 CEST schreef jdd:

Le 03/04/2016 11:31, Per Jessen a écrit :

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annoying that Spectacle starts in / instead of my homedir.

mine start with a sreenshot of the current screen, what is usually not what I need (I need most often a rectangular part screenshot)

jdd

I don't see any difference in behaviour between ksnapshot and spectacle re. this. Plus, both remember last picked setting. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org