Good day, cdrecord version 2.0, under SuSE Linux 8.2 Pro. I want to burn a CD-RW with 1X. No matter what speed I set, cdrecord ignores it and burns with approximately 4X (which is the media's burning ability according to its ATIP). Before the burn starts, cdrecord always says that it will burn at 2X, but the actual burning is always done with 4X I have tried to set the speed to 0, 1 and 2 to no avail. The environment variable CDR_SPEED is empty, and there is no settings file for cdrecord on the system. So there should not be any settings overruling my command ilne. It makes no difference if I burn as root or as a normal user. Under SuSE 8.1 cdrecord always honored my speed requests, with this very drive and with the same media. I have not found any usable solutions on the great internet. Has anyone got any ideas as to what might be wrong? Best regards :o) Johnny :o)
I noticed that none seemed to be willing to touch this with a 10-feet pole. So I just have to ask one thing WHY? Why record at 1X except for it to take as fscking long as possible, or is there some hardware choke point that you encounter at higher speeds. For the record yes mine does it too, set the speed to 1 and it records at 4X none the less. But all my CD-RW medias are marked highspeed 4X-10X and "This product is a rewritable disc for exlusive use with High Speed CD-RW drives bearing the logo shown above." That in practice means that my friend owning an older CD-RW drive only capable of max 4X cannot write the discs. (we tried) He bitched about it to no end but in todays world where a 52x24x52x drive costs 35€ who cares. On Tuesday 30 September 2003 16:46, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day,
cdrecord version 2.0, under SuSE Linux 8.2 Pro. I want to burn a CD-RW with 1X.
No matter what speed I set, cdrecord ignores it and burns with approximately 4X (which is the media's burning ability according to its ATIP). Before the burn starts, cdrecord always says that it will burn at 2X, but the actual burning is always done with 4X I have tried to set the speed to 0, 1 and 2 to no avail.
The environment variable CDR_SPEED is empty, and there is no settings file for cdrecord on the system. So there should not be any settings overruling my command ilne.
It makes no difference if I burn as root or as a normal user.
Under SuSE 8.1 cdrecord always honored my speed requests, with this very drive and with the same media.
I have not found any usable solutions on the great internet.
Has anyone got any ideas as to what might be wrong?
Best regards :o)
Johnny :o)
Robert Ahlskog wrote:
I noticed that none seemed to be willing to touch this with a 10-feet pole. So I just have to ask one thing WHY? Why record at 1X except for it to take as fscking long as possible, or is there some hardware choke point that you
neither of those reasons. I have found through experience that it can mean the difference between readable and unreadable when a disc is played in another player, especially an older one. At 1X the melting is a little deeper and can allow some older players to read the disc while it would start skipping on playback when the disc was recorded at a higher speed I am not sure but I believe that your not being able to record at 1X could be an issue with the drive. I have a new IBM Intellistation Z Pro and I have noticed that the lower speeds aren't even available for recording but on an older Pentium III with an older Yamaha SCSI CD recorder and SuSE 8.0 I record at 1X Damon Register
Good day Damon, Torsdag den 2. oktober 2003 19:20 kvad Damon Register:
Robert Ahlskog wrote:
I noticed that none seemed to be willing to touch this with a 10-feet pole. So I just have to ask one thing WHY? Why record at 1X except for it to take as fscking long as possible, or is there some hardware choke point that you
neither of those reasons. I have found through experience that it can mean the difference between readable and unreadable when a disc is played in another player, especially an older one. At 1X the melting is a little deeper and can allow some older players to read the disc while it would start skipping on playback when the disc was recorded at a higher speed
Basically this too is my reason for wanting to write at 1X.
I am not sure but I believe that your not being able to record at 1X could be an issue with the drive.
Thank you, but this very drive with this very media used to burn at 1X under SuSE 8.1, so I donøt think the hardware is to blame. An other poster informs me that in particular CD-RW media may mandate a minimum write speed. Perhaps the older cdrecord did not take into consideration the media ATIP information, and the new one does. Best regards :o) Johnny :o)
Well that could be it, I know that newer versions of cd-recording software can read info on the media capability. As for the readable/unreadable I just throw 'em away when they no longer can be burned at high speed, new media 1€ a piece so I figure that if I get 6 months out of a CD-RW it's a good deal. But I still record CD-R at less than max speed try to keep it at 24x or something since I know that my CD-R discs are going to get used in all kinds of cdroms. On Thursday 02 October 2003 23:19, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:
Good day Damon,
Torsdag den 2. oktober 2003 19:20 kvad Damon Register:
Robert Ahlskog wrote:
I noticed that none seemed to be willing to touch this with a 10-feet pole. So I just have to ask one thing WHY? Why record at 1X except for it to take as fscking long as possible, or is there some hardware choke point that you
neither of those reasons. I have found through experience that it can mean the difference between readable and unreadable when a disc is played in another player, especially an older one. At 1X the melting is a little deeper and can allow some older players to read the disc while it would start skipping on playback when the disc was recorded at a higher speed
Basically this too is my reason for wanting to write at 1X.
I am not sure but I believe that your not being able to record at 1X could be an issue with the drive.
Thank you, but this very drive with this very media used to burn at 1X under SuSE 8.1, so I donøt think the hardware is to blame. An other poster informs me that in particular CD-RW media may mandate a minimum write speed. Perhaps the older cdrecord did not take into consideration the media ATIP information, and the new one does.
Best regards :o)
Johnny :o)
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* Robert Ahlskog <ahlskog.robert@netikka.fi> (Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:56:42PM +0300)
I noticed that none seemed to be willing to touch this with a 10-feet pole. So I just have to ask one thing WHY? Why record at 1X except for it to take as fscking long as possible, or is there some hardware choke point that you encounter at higher speeds.
For the record yes mine does it too, set the speed to 1 and it records at 4X none the less. But all my CD-RW medias are marked highspeed 4X-10X and "This product is a rewritable disc for exlusive use with High Speed CD-RW drives bearing the logo shown above." That in practice means that my friend owning
Newer versions of cdrecord query the disk (someway) and determin the writing/burn speed fom the disk. Some disks have a minimum writing speed (esp. CD-RW media). It's been ages since I tried writing at 1xspeed, but I have seen cases where CD-RW will not burn on my 4speed burner (simply because the media wants at least 8 speed). Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:56, Robert Ahlskog wrote: Although I have never tried to burn a disc at 1x I can add that my drive speed=6 and changes it to 4 or 8 (depending on what the medium can handle). BUT The box of the drives lists the speeds that the drive can write at as follows: 4x 8x 12x 16x 20x 24x 32x 20x 48x Maybe the drive's firmware just doesn't have modes for writing at the inbetween speeds? What I also found interesting, is that when using the rare disc that can actually burn at 48x (many are labeled 48x but the ATIP says 32x), and I burn a full 700mb, the actual writing speed will very often be as high as 51x ... Hans
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