Linux Magazine (Linux Pro in the US) has a 4 page review of the 9.3 release in the June 2005 issue, pgs 44-47. "Novell's Suse Linux 9.3 is a feature-rich, and robust Linux distribution. At first glance, the new version does not seem much changed from 9.2, but a lot of work has gone on under the hood. The distribution is definitely good for new users. If you already have Suse Linux 9.x or a similarly recent system, the update is only worth the effort if you are unhappy with your current setup. If you use external media on a regular basis, the update is definitely a good idea. . . . " dave -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe
Op dinsdag 3 mei 2005 02:23, schreef David Johanson:
Linux Magazine (Linux Pro in the US) has a 4 page review of the 9.3 release in the June 2005 issue, pgs 44-47.
"Novell's Suse Linux 9.3 is a feature-rich, and robust Linux distribution. At first glance, the new version does not seem much changed from 9.2, but a lot of work has gone on under the hood. The distribution is definitely good for new users.
If you already have Suse Linux 9.x or a similarly recent system, the update is only worth the effort if you are unhappy with your current setup.
If you use external media on a regular basis, the update is definitely a good idea. . . . "
The url is here: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/55/Suse_Linux_93_Review.pdf -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On May Tuesday 2005 2:44 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
Op dinsdag 3 mei 2005 02:23, schreef David Johanson:
Linux Magazine (Linux Pro in the US) has a 4 page review of the 9.3 release in the June 2005 issue, pgs 44-47.
"Novell's Suse Linux 9.3 is a feature-rich, and robust Linux distribution. At first glance, the new version does not seem much changed from 9.2, but a lot of work has gone on under the hood. The distribution is definitely good for new users.
If you already have Suse Linux 9.x or a similarly recent system, the update is only worth the effort if you are unhappy with your current setup.
If you use external media on a regular basis, the update is definitely a good idea. . . . "
The url is here: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/55/Suse_Linux_93_Review.pdf YUP, As I said a day or so ago when I posted this same url :-) I had one weird problem which I probably caused myself only half paying attention to something.. but basically, on older hardware it´s good stuff and seems faster.. even if it isn´t. Perception being everything here. BTW the Beagle item is so alpha.. Hardly anything they put in as a lagship"product. Suse´s flagship product is the distro itself and all the work they put into it.
It´s now time for me to go get some new hardware and stress test it again ;-) I am so far off the bleeding edge these days I´m walking in water up to my knees. And, well, aside from the beach , I just can´t allow that. ;-) hehehe BTW that is a great mag.. and anyone who is looking for a subscription that will hand hold them thru making the aquaintense of Linux and then be more middle user helpful as well.. this is the one...
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 6:29 pm, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
It´s now time for me to go get some new hardware and stress test it again ;-);-) I am so far off the bleeding edge these days I´m walking in water up to my knees. And, well, aside from the beach , I just can´t allow that. ;-);-)
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home thanks jack
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 21:45, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
thanks
Hi jack, ( must remember to never say that aboard an airliner) I heartly recommend the hi-end AMD Athlon XPs of the 'Barton" core variety. The Bartons have the BIG 512KB Lvl-II cache which makes them very snappy. The XP2800 sells for about $100 or less and can easily run at 3000. They also run cooler than anything earlier, or anything from INTEL. I like the ABIT motherboards a lot. I am cranking out SETI units in slightly less than 3 hrs which is right up there with the AMD64 units which are much more costly. The Bartons use PC2700 or PC3200 memory which is quick but reasonable in cost compared to the newer stuff. Up to date SATA drives are not delivering noticably faster performance compared to the old stand-by Parallel ATA, The P ATA drives prices are coming down fast now that the system houses are only buying SATA. Just my thoughts, PeterB
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:45 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has them. It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On 5/4/05, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:45 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has them. It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512.
Fred
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Ah, Medion. They sell them in the Aldi stores here in the UK. The spec is fantastic for the price. It would be cheaper in a lot of cases to buy one of these just to strip it for upgrade parts for an existing PC than to buy those parts separately. -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 14:31, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has them. It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512.
Ditto for the sound - I have a Medion 5880 (I think, since it's not on the case), and the lack of sound is the main shortcoming with it. I suppose I should get a separate card too. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:31:33AM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:45 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has them. It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512.
Wow, I have a Medion, i didn't know they were German owned though. I bought mine at best buy for 433 dollars, it came with 256 RAM, an 80 GB disk, DVD-ROM and CD Burner, and internal sound card. I added another 512 RAM, a neon blue exhaust fan, a 350 Watt Power Supply, And an Nvidia GeForce FX card with 128 MBs Video, heh. I had it as my web and FTP server but the power supply is doing not to well and I need a new one.
Fred
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On Wednesday 04 May 2005 10:29 pm, Allen wrote:
Wow, I have a Medion, i didn't know they were German owned though. I bought mine at best buy for 433 dollars, it came with 256 RAM, an 80 GB disk, DVD-ROM and CD Burner, and internal sound card.
I added another 512 RAM, a neon blue exhaust fan, a 350 Watt Power Supply, And an Nvidia GeForce FX card with 128 MBs Video, heh. I had it as my web and FTP server but the power supply is doing not to well and I need a new one.
This came with a 350w.........nice little box. 9.2 performed very well on it, but 9.3 IS quicker, to be sure. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
At 09:31 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:45 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has them. It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512.
So this thread started out being about SuSE 9.3 and OLD hardware right? Ok, I have an old P-III with only standard PCI slots and I want to add SATA raid on the cheap. I don't want fakeraid, I need the card to do some of the work since my processor is slow and I have limited (640mb) of memory. I need to figure out what kind of SATA raid card might be out there on ePay or etc that I might possibly be able to afford; two drive support is good, four would be better, more would be likely way out of reach price-wise. Anyone know what cards are out there for standard PCI? That work with SuSE 9.2 like I have, or 9.3 like I might be convinced to upgrade to? -Tom [Fiction] If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it? --Monty Python --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters@nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43° 7' 17.2" N by 88° 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531
greetz ive got about the same dilema and ive been going thru the issue and so far i have found only two brands that can really give you a real raid not a fake raid, they are: 1- 3ware all series 2- adaptec 2XXXX series (adaptec 1XXXX series give only fakeraid!!) 3ware has had lots of goo review, thou both cost about the same, and simple cost a lot :/ if someone else knows of other working brands that are cheap and can be found in european markets i would be more than glad to get my hands on some as my next new server budget has more than doubled just by adding the eware escalade card to the shopping list. regards RP On 1/6/06, Tom Peters <tpeters@mixcom.com> wrote:
At 09:31 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:45 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has them. It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512.
So this thread started out being about SuSE 9.3 and OLD hardware right? Ok, I have an old P-III with only standard PCI slots and I want to add SATA raid on the cheap. I don't want fakeraid, I need the card to do some of the work since my processor is slow and I have limited (640mb) of memory. I need to figure out what kind of SATA raid card might be out there on ePay or etc that I might possibly be able to afford; two drive support is good, four would be better, more would be likely way out of reach price-wise.
Anyone know what cards are out there for standard PCI? That work with SuSE 9.2 like I have, or 9.3 like I might be convinced to upgrade to?
-Tom
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here is a good site covering the subject http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html regards RP On 1/6/06, RutePoint <rutepoint@gmail.com> wrote:
greetz ive got about the same dilema and ive been going thru the issue and so far i have found only two brands that can really give you a real raid not a fake raid, they are: 1- 3ware all series 2- adaptec 2XXXX series (adaptec 1XXXX series give only fakeraid!!)
3ware has had lots of goo review, thou both cost about the same, and simple cost a lot :/
if someone else knows of other working brands that are cheap and can be found in european markets i would be more than glad to get my hands on some as my next new server budget has more than doubled just by adding the eware escalade card to the shopping list.
regards RP
On 1/6/06, Tom Peters <tpeters@mixcom.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 10:45 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
At 06:33 PM 5/3/2005, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Well, I'm about as "bleeding edge" as it can get here with this new box. I did have to add a PCI sound card, but the SATA and all the rest of the "goodies" was seen and installed during the inital install. I did have a glitch with sound, but I think that is a permissions thing that SUSE just hasn't fixed yet.
Hey fred care to tell us what your bleeding edge hardware you have runnng there. I'm in market for some new stuff for a machine for server at home
Sure......it's probably the best well-built box on the market for the money. It's a Medion (German owned company) Composer 5200....Best Buy has
At 09:31 AM 5/4/2005 -0400, you wrote: them.
It's a 3.2Ghz P-4 with 800Mhz. FSB, SATA w/200GB SATA drive, nVidia PCI
Express 16x, bunch of USB ports, 1 DVD drive and DVD DL (dual layer) burner, etc.....all for uner $700. The sound isn't supported so I installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS.......ships with 512MB of RAM and I added another 512.
So this thread started out being about SuSE 9.3 and OLD hardware right? Ok, I have an old P-III with only standard PCI slots and I want to add SATA raid on the cheap. I don't want fakeraid, I need the card to do some of the work since my processor is slow and I have limited (640mb) of memory. I need to figure out what kind of SATA raid card might be out there on ePay or etc that I might possibly be able to afford; two drive support is good, four would be better, more would be likely way out of reach price-wise.
Anyone know what cards are out there for standard PCI? That work with SuSE 9.2 like I have, or 9.3 like I might be convinced to upgrade to?
-Tom
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On Friday 06 January 2006 05:24, Tom Peters wrote:
Anyone know what cards are out there for standard PCI? That work with SuSE 9.2 like I have, or 9.3 like I might be convinced to upgrade to?
3ware 8006-2LP is a 2-port true SATA RAID card for 64bit/66 MHz PCI, but it should fit in a 32bit/33 MHz PCI slot. There is also 8506-4LP for 4 ports. 3ware works out-of-the-box on Linux. Look here at page 7 about PCI 64/32 bit. http://www.digi.com/pdf/prd_msc_pcitech.pdf Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 1210SA is another option. But I'm not sure that it's not fakeraid.
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