[opensuse] My Opensuse 12.1 are slow
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
I have no idea as to the cause/fix, but I have the same experience. My home computer, which ran 11.0 very well, has become a pig with 12. 1 & KDE 4. I have to reboot every week or so to restore performance, but even then, it's nowhere near what I had with 11.0. This is on a 64 bit AMD Athlon 64 4000+ & 3 GB of memory. I don't have Windows on this computer, so I can't compare with it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Den 17.05.2012 17:42, skrev James Knott:
Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
I have no idea as to the cause/fix, but I have the same experience. My home computer, which ran 11.0 very well, has become a pig with 12. 1 & KDE 4. I have to reboot every week or so to restore performance, but even then, it's nowhere near what I had with 11.0. This is on a 64 bit AMD Athlon 64 4000+ & 3 GB of memory. I don't have Windows on this computer, so I can't compare with it.
My sytem are: AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 2.4 GHZ and 1 gb ram.I have installed the 32 bits system, from Linux Format DVD. :-) My Opensuse are to slow to used it. I have tried with all the "small" window system, but the are all slow. So now I am on my old Win XP. :-(( Gunnar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/17/12 11:56, Gunnar pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Den 17.05.2012 17:42, skrev James Knott:
Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
I have no idea as to the cause/fix, but I have the same experience. My home computer, which ran 11.0 very well, has become a pig with 12. 1 & KDE 4. I have to reboot every week or so to restore performance, but even then, it's nowhere near what I had with 11.0. This is on a 64 bit AMD Athlon 64 4000+ & 3 GB of memory. I don't have Windows on this computer, so I can't compare with it.
My sytem are: AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 2.4 GHZ and 1 gb ram.I have installed the 32 bits system, from Linux Format DVD. :-) My Opensuse are to slow to used it. I have tried with all the "small" window system, but the are all slow. So now I am on my old Win XP. :-(( Gunnar
I had this experience a couple of weeks ago on my laptop and it turned out to be the version of the Nvidia driver installed. Once I rolled back to an earlier version all was back to normal. Please include which graphics card and driver you are using. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Please include which graphics card and driver you are using.
I have the Nvidia GeForce 7300 GE and have tried both the Nvidia and Nouveau drivers. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 17 May 2012 11:42:14 -0400
James Knott
Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
I have no idea as to the cause/fix, but I have the same experience. My home computer, which ran 11.0 very well, has become a pig with 12. 1 & KDE 4. I have to reboot every week or so to restore performance, but even then, it's nowhere near what I had with 11.0. This is on a 64 bit AMD Athlon 64 4000+ & 3 GB of memory. I don't have Windows on this computer, so I can't compare with it.
The 64-bit version of openSUSE 12.1 + GNOME ran beautifully on my 2 GHz Intel Core2Duo 5800 system w/ 4GB memory. I restored the 11.4 + GNOME 2 installation for day to day work due to the changes in GNOME, not performance. And I have not seen many instances of this specific complaint here on the list. Have either of you studied the logs for warnings, errors or other anomalies? Have you 'Googled' "openSUSE 12.1" plus the make and model numbers of your computers or motherboards? Just to see if anyone has already discussed your specific problem on the 'net? It's impossible to start asking the right questions, much less make any recommendations, without some base level of understanding of your hardware and without any clues from the logs. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carl Hartung wrote:
Have either of you studied the logs for warnings, errors or other anomalies? Have you 'Googled' "openSUSE 12.1" plus the make and model numbers of your computers or motherboards? Just to see if anyone has already discussed your specific problem on the 'net?
After googling, I only found my earlier comments on this list. What logs should we be looking at? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:17:48 -0400
James Knott
Carl Hartung wrote:
Have either of you studied the logs for warnings, errors or other anomalies? Have you 'Googled' "openSUSE 12.1" plus the make and model numbers of your computers or motherboards? Just to see if anyone has already discussed your specific problem on the 'net?
After googling, I only found my earlier comments on this list.
If you provide that information here on the list, others might have hands-on experience to share or better luck with Google ... possibly by searching on the chipset, instead.
What logs should we be looking at?
/var/log/boot.msg /var/log/faillog /var/log/mcelog /var/log/messages /var/log/warn /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 11:42 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
I have no idea as to the cause/fix, but I have the same experience. My home computer, which ran 11.0 very well, has become a pig with 12. 1 & KDE 4. I have to reboot every week or so to restore performance, but even then, it's nowhere near what I had with 11.0. This is on a 64 bit AMD Athlon 64 4000+ & 3 GB of memory. I don't have Windows on this computer, so I can't compare with it. This is KDE issue. Mostly Akonadi and packagekit going crazy in the background. I'd recommend disabling them both. Can be messy. Why I switched to Gnome.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-17 17:24, Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
Have a look with top to see if some process is using the cpu too much, and to check how much free ram you have (free + buffers + cache). Besides, XP is old software, it will run faster in your system that win 7. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+1QEEACgkQIvFNjefEBxqDEQCg1N5wk03VoS51AfEWhOha/rm3 TAwAoLeXF/n4XJx0GfUbV2eysXOm6Zd8 =qM5n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/18/2012 02:15 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-05-17 17:24, Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
Have a look with top to see if some process is using the cpu too much, and to check how much free ram you have (free + buffers + cache).
That brings up a question I have been meaning to ask for some time. I have the system load view widget in my system tray, which if I click on will bring up the system activity gui and gives good information on what processes are running and how much memory, cpu they use, etc. However, sometimes when my system slows down, I can only access information if I ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal and use the command line. Is there a good command line command that will give cpu usage information and the process id for whatever is using the cpu? I use ps ax to look at my processes, but I haven't been able to figure out how to show much cpu each process may be using on the command line. Same thing for memory. I use free for showing the amount of free memory, but what command gives the process id and memory that it is using at the same time? Knowing how to do these from the command line would I think help anyone to troubleshoot slowness problems. -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB RAM Box #2 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Pentium 4 (2core) | 32 | Intel 82915G | 2GB RAM Lap #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Core2 Duo T8100 | 64 | Intel 965GM | 4GB RAM Lap #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | Core Duo T2400 | 32 | NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120 | 2GB RAM learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/18/2012 09:32 AM, George Olson wrote:
I use ps ax to look at my processes, but I haven't been able to figure out how to show much cpu each process may be using on the command line.
Same thing for memory. I use free for showing the amount of free memory, but what command gives the process id and memory that it is using at the same time?
Knowing how to do these from the command line would I think help anyone to troubleshoot slowness problems.
try top, htop, atop (and others), see which you like best.. piles of how-to on them at man or info.. -- dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/05/12 17:32, George Olson wrote:
On 05/18/2012 02:15 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-05-17 17:24, Gunnar wrote:
Why are my Win XP so much quicker then my 12.1. The CPU goes to 100% when I starts some thing. I have the same problem with KDE and Icewm. In Win XP,there are no delay, I start a program and it start. In Opensuse, it take nearly 1 min. with no response, everything seems to have died. Any clues?? Gunnar
Have a look with top to see if some process is using the cpu too much, and to check how much free ram you have (free + buffers + cache).
That brings up a question I have been meaning to ask for some time. I have the system load view widget in my system tray, which if I click on will bring up the system activity gui and gives good information on what processes are running and how much memory, cpu they use, etc.
However, sometimes when my system slows down, I can only access information if I ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal and use the command line. Is there a good command line command that will give cpu usage information and the process id for whatever is using the cpu?
I use ps ax to look at my processes, but I haven't been able to figure out how to show much cpu each process may be using on the command line.
Same thing for memory. I use free for showing the amount of free memory, but what command gives the process id and memory that it is using at the same time?
Knowing how to do these from the command line would I think help anyone to troubleshoot slowness problems.
Doesn't Kickoff>Applications>System>Monitor>System Monitor work for you? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/05/12 20:55, Basil Chupin wrote:
Doesn't Kickoff>Applications>System>Monitor>System Monitor work for you?
BC
Just go Ctrl-Esc -- Robin K Wellington "Harbour City" New Zealand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/05/12 19:58, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 18/05/12 20:55, Basil Chupin wrote:
Doesn't Kickoff>Applications>System>Monitor>System Monitor work for you?
BC
Just go Ctrl-Esc
Interesting - didn't know about this short-cut. Only problem is is that it is a pity that it doesn't show the System Load which is available in the System Monitor. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/18/2012 04:55 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Knowing how to do these from the command line would I think help anyone to troubleshoot slowness problems.
Doesn't Kickoff>Applications>System>Monitor>System Monitor work for you?
BC
Ah, yes, that is what I usually use. But I was looking for something that I could run in a terminal when the desktop is tied up with heavy cpu use and responding very slowly. Seems like "top" is what I was looking for. Thanks. :) -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB RAM Box #2 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Pentium 4 (2core) | 32 | Intel 82915G | 2GB RAM Lap #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Core2 Duo T8100 | 64 | Intel 965GM | 4GB RAM Lap #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | Core Duo T2400 | 32 | NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120 | 2GB RAM learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/05/12 15:24, George Olson wrote:
On 05/18/2012 04:55 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Knowing how to do these from the command line would I think help anyone to troubleshoot slowness problems.
Doesn't Kickoff>Applications>System>Monitor>System Monitor work for you?
BC
Ah, yes, that is what I usually use. But I was looking for something that I could run in a terminal when the desktop is tied up with heavy cpu use and responding very slowly. Seems like "top" is what I was looking for. Thanks. :)
"No problemo", as Arnie said in the fillum. And I learnt about "top" for this purpose which I didn't know about before :-) . Everyday is a learning experience! :-) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
George Olson wrote:
However, sometimes when my system slows down, I can only access information if I ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal and use the command line. Is there a good command line command that will give cpu usage information and the process id for whatever is using the cpu?
I use ps ax to look at my processes, but I haven't been able to figure out how to show much cpu each process may be using on the command line.
Same thing for memory. I use free for showing the amount of free memory, but what command gives the process id and memory that it is using at the same time?
Try "top". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/18/2012 07:54 PM, James Knott wrote:
George Olson wrote:
However, sometimes when my system slows down, I can only access information if I ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal and use the command line. Is there a good command line command that will give cpu usage information and the process id for whatever is using the cpu?
I use ps ax to look at my processes, but I haven't been able to figure out how to show much cpu each process may be using on the command line.
Same thing for memory. I use free for showing the amount of free memory, but what command gives the process id and memory that it is using at the same time?
Try "top".
That's it - that's what I was looking for. Thanks! -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB RAM Box #2 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Pentium 4 (2core) | 32 | Intel 82915G | 2GB RAM Lap #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Core2 Duo T8100 | 64 | Intel 965GM | 4GB RAM Lap #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | Core Duo T2400 | 32 | NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120 | 2GB RAM learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Have a look with top to see if some process is using the cpu too much, and to check how much free ram you have (free + buffers + cache).
One thing I've noticed is that "plugin-container" seems to be a major user of CPU. Even when I return to the computer that I haven't used for several minutes, it's still way up there and System Monitor shows CPU History pegged at the top. Currently top shows it hitting 70-80% and occasionally dropping to 30-40%.. top - 11:39:22 up 1 day, 13:20, 6 users, load average: 1.15, 1.30, 1.41 Tasks: 213 total, 2 running, 208 sleeping, 0 stopped, 3 zombie Cpu(s): 92.7%us, 7.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Mem: 3088796k total, 2957248k used, 131548k free, 14380k buffers Swap: 8388600k total, 167884k used, 8220716k free, 453448k cached -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 05/20/2012 05:40 PM, James Knott wrote:
"plugin-container" seems to be a major user of CPU.
that is Flash running.. its a pig!
Yes, usually, but it can be something else if I'm not mistaken. Sometimes I simply kill it, after I have seen that flash window and know I don't need to see it more. Or, I could ban that image. If on a computer flash pegs the cpu too much, I would by default ban all flashes. There is a plugin I can't remember the name that does this: all ban are flashed, and you have to click on the center of the window where the flash would be to start it. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+5NDQACgkQIvFNjefEBxrh0gCgwmzS3MMX3Axb0QVnZaMZN1Ts yJUAnRVp4BrtzM4wGUB89bjRIQRJhgyl =iNDk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/20/12 14:13, Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
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On 2012-05-20 18:38, DenverD wrote:
On 05/20/2012 05:40 PM, James Knott wrote:
"plugin-container" seems to be a major user of CPU.
that is Flash running.. its a pig!
Yes, usually, but it can be something else if I'm not mistaken. Sometimes I simply kill it, after I have seen that flash window and know I don't need to see it more. Or, I could ban that image.
If on a computer flash pegs the cpu too much, I would by default ban all flashes. There is a plugin I can't remember the name that does this: all ban are flashed, and you have to click on the center of the window where the flash would be to start it.
It's called Flashblock, and can be installed through the addon's tool. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
It's called Flashblock, and can be installed through the addon's tool.
I can see that for Firefox, but not Seamonkey. I use Seamonkey much more than Firefox. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/05/20 17:22 (GMT-0400) James Knott composed:
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
It's called Flashblock, and can be installed through the addon's tool.
I can see that for Firefox, but not Seamonkey. I use Seamonkey much more than Firefox.
I keep the following open virtually 24/7 in one single core 32 bit 11.4/KDE3 session: FF 2.0.0.20 from mozilla.org on desktop 6 FF 3.6.28 from openSUSE Mozilla Legacy repo on desktop 5 FF 12.x from mozilla.org on desktop 4 SM 2.9.1 from openSUSE Mozilla repo on desktop 4 SM 2.10.x from mozilla.org on desktop 1 My browser windows rarely have fewer than 12 open tabs. Upwards of 20 is more typical. 2.10.x currently has about 35, and doesn't often dip below that number. Most Flash content seems designed for use on 640x480 displays. On high DPI displays, making Flash objects big enough to see anything typically produces serious ugliness. Thus I limit exposure to Flash in various ways. In 2.9.1 I normally don't open any pages that I know or expect contain Flash. I use this in SM 2.9.1's userContent.css: "embed[type="application/x-shockwave-flash"] {display: none !important; visibility: hidden !important;}". Thus what few Flash containing pages do get opened in 2.9.1 mostly won't display any Flash content. 2.0.0.20, 12.x & 2.10.x, un-bzip'd to /usr/local, haven't been instructed where to find the Flash plugin. So, normally only 3.6.28 has plugin-containe consuming cycles and RAM. Minimized to taskbar with a non-Flash tab focused the Flash overhead seems reduced to a fairly nominal 1%-2% CPU & .7% of RAM even though several up to 8 or 10 tabs might contain some Flash at any given time. I've never installed or used "Flashblock", have 4G RAM, keep swap turned off, and rarely see objectionable slowness. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/21/2012 06:03 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/05/20 17:22 (GMT-0400) James Knott composed:
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
It's called Flashblock, and can be installed through the addon's tool.
I can see that for Firefox, but not Seamonkey. I use Seamonkey much more than Firefox.
I keep the following open virtually 24/7 in one single core 32 bit 11.4/KDE3 session:
FF 2.0.0.20 from mozilla.org on desktop 6 FF 3.6.28 from openSUSE Mozilla Legacy repo on desktop 5 FF 12.x from mozilla.org on desktop 4 SM 2.9.1 from openSUSE Mozilla repo on desktop 4 SM 2.10.x from mozilla.org on desktop 1
How are you able to run simultaneous separate versions of FF? I didn't know that was possible. -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB RAM Box #2 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Pentium 4 (2core) | 32 | Intel 82915G | 2GB RAM Lap #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Core2 Duo T8100 | 64 | Intel 965GM | 4GB RAM Lap #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | Core Duo T2400 | 32 | NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120 | 2GB RAM learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/05/21 07:15 (GMT+0800) George Olson composed:
How are you able to run simultaneous separate versions of FF? I didn't know that was possible.
You really think browser developers and web site developers could live with having to open only one at a time? O_O Comparisons and bisect management would be a huge problem, a solution for which was provided at least a decade ago. :-D http://lmgtfy.com/?q=run+multiple+gecko+versions+simultaneously -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/05/12 06:36, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 05/20/12 14:13, Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
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On 2012-05-20 18:38, DenverD wrote:
On 05/20/2012 05:40 PM, James Knott wrote:
"plugin-container" seems to be a major user of CPU.
that is Flash running.. its a pig!
Yes, usually, but it can be something else if I'm not mistaken. Sometimes I simply kill it, after I have seen that flash window and know I don't need to see it more. Or, I could ban that image.
If on a computer flash pegs the cpu too much, I would by default ban all flashes. There is a plugin I can't remember the name that does this: all ban are flashed, and you have to click on the center of the window where the flash would be to start it.
It's called Flashblock, and can be installed through the addon's tool.
I just had a look at it and it won't work if you have NoScript installed. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/05/12 06:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
......... all ban are flashed, ......
Oh dear! First, slang in this thread; now Spoonerisms ... -- Robin K Wellington "Harbour City" New Zealand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-20 22:56, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 21/05/12 06:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
......... all ban are flashed, ......
Oh dear! First, slang in this thread; now Spoonerisms ...
I have no idea what “Spoonerisms” is. However, my phrase is a typo, I meant “all flashes are banned”, obviously. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+5XK8ACgkQIvFNjefEBxqmtgCgrQ4iN7Kim8p/UqJh4bU4nqKj lTQAnicCTMQherjIiGmluObNrynBv98g =EPsX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/05/12 09:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-05-20 22:56, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 21/05/12 06:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
......... all ban are flashed, ......
Oh dear! First, slang in this thread; now Spoonerisms ...
I have no idea what “Spoonerisms” is. However, my phrase is a typo, I meant “all flashes are banned”, obviously.
I'm sure they happen in other languages too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism -- Robin K Wellington "Harbour City" New Zealand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-20 23:32, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 21/05/12 09:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-05-20 22:56, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 21/05/12 06:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
......... all ban are flashed, ......
Oh dear! First, slang in this thread; now Spoonerisms ...
I have no idea what “Spoonerisms” is. However, my phrase is a typo, I meant “all flashes are banned”, obviously.
I'm sure they happen in other languages too:
Oh! :-O - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+5bqMACgkQIvFNjefEBxqnAQCbBP8CMw9M0sFT2BW5bl4bQYzR oj0AoKls2aUEkbx7UKsFa+S/4r/L7uDI =B7Of -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, 20 May 2012 16:05 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-05-20 22:56, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 21/05/12 06:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
......... all ban are flashed, ......
Oh dear! First, slang in this thread; now Spoonerisms ...
I have no idea what “Spoonerisms” is. However, my phrase is a typo, I meant “all flashes are banned”, obviously.
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Basil Chupin
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Carl Hartung
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Carlos E. R.
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DenverD
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Felix Miata
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George Olson
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Gunnar
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Insomniactoo
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James Knott
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Ken Schneider - openSUSE
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Robin Klitscher
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Roger Luedecke