All I wish to say on this matter is to please wait, who cares when RedHat or perhaps Mandrake release their next versions, let them release buggy pieces of no good rubbish, but let SuSE fix installation issues and other serious outstanding bugs before it hits the shelves :). Lets please wait until after the release of KDE 3.1. This is my New Years resolution, I want 2003 to be the year Linux breaks new ground, not just break... -- Matthew Johnson <matthew@psychohorse.com>