[opensuse] Beagle and SUSE 10.2
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk. Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-) -- Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards Torkild Ulvøy Resheim
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 13:10, Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
Why not de-install it and replace it with the findutils? I find it very annoying. That being said, its probably trying to read something It can't. Are you sure there is no bad spot on your disk? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John, On Tuesday 19 December 2006 14:37, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 13:10, Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
Why not de-install it and replace it with the findutils?
Findutils are great, of course, and I use find, xargs and locate pretty much daily (locate is in a separate package, by the way: findutils-locate). But those tools are not a replacement for beagle or any other content-based indexing, since findutils and friends see only file names.
I find it very annoying.
It has not been a noticeable problem on my 10.2 installation.
That being said, its probably trying to read something It can't. Are you sure there is no bad spot on your disk?
During the pre-release phase, there were problems with some Mono things in the package management tangle. Whatever the problem was, it led to unending CPU grinding, along with log file diarrhea. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue December 19 2006 14:57, Randall R Schulz wrote:
John,
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 14:37, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 13:10, Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
Why not de-install it and replace it with the findutils?
Findutils are great, of course, and I use find, xargs and locate pretty much daily (locate is in a separate package, by the way: findutils-locate). But those tools are not a replacement for beagle or any other content-based indexing, since findutils and friends see only file names
YEP! As follows locate something losely what your looking for | grep something more specific Means not much hides and doesn't take long to find it - oh and run the updatedb from time to time :), Most "corporate" focused find file progries bit the big one to say the least (seems most l-users prefer this because the think it "thinks for them"?). Anyway find-utils is much easier AFAIC, faster and only works when executed. Beagle (aka kerry?) such cycles endlessly and ain't all the much more useful. Just my $0.02. Cheers, Curtis. - -- Spammers Beware: Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Like the song say: "Everything's 'Zen'... I don't think so"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFiNHm7CQBg4DqqCwRArQuAKCLyM4rgU8S6bdlg2DfDwr0t5XO4wCguX7s JM9jnUsrI7Eqz88cZ/RG5z8= =zFNo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 22:02, Curtis Rey wrote:
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Why not de-install it and replace it with the findutils?
Findutils are great, of course, and I use find, xargs and locate pretty much daily (locate is in a separate package, by the way: findutils-locate). But those tools are not a replacement for beagle or any other content-based indexing, since findutils and friends see only file names
YEP! As follows
locate something losely what your looking for | grep something more specific
Still, that only finds plain text. If there are multi-byte characters, they won't be found. Have you ever looked at a PDF file? There's a great deal of mark-up (not HTML/XML/SGML-style, but mark-up nonetheless) that interrupts the logical character sequence, and grep and relatives are very likely to miss seeing text that's there. PostScript files likewise. I don't know what OpenOffice and MS word-processing and other proprietary documents look like, but most such formats require the interleaving of formatting information in ways that tends to interfere with plain-text search tools. Diss Beagle all you like (there are alternatives, you know), but plain text tools are very limited in searching for content on a modern computing system.
... Cheers, Curtis.
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Hi list, This is a problem which has happened a couple of times and i cant find a definitive solution. Sometimes my printer will stop and i cant restart it. Maybe its accepted some jobs it cant do and they build up in queue and it panics and just stops the printer - in kde printing manager > printer > start/stop printer and its stopped so stop is greyed out and start is available. Now when i click start it says i dont havehave access to the requested resource and its unable to modify the settings of the printer. Ive hit the administrator mode button, being root doesnt help. And no other user passwords work. Which user do i need to be to config printers here and how do i set up other users for it or maybe just allow any user to change settings here. Thanks Powered by Open-Xchange.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 15:32 +0000, Evan Ingram wrote:
Hi list,
This is a problem which has happened a couple of times and i cant find a definitive solution. Sometimes my printer will stop and i cant restart it. Maybe its accepted some jobs it cant do and they build up in queue and it panics and just stops the printer - in kde printing manager > printer > start/stop printer and its stopped so stop is greyed out and start is available. Now when i click start it says i dont havehave access to the requested resource and its unable to modify the settings of the printer. Ive hit the administrator mode button, being root doesnt help. And no other user passwords work. Which user do i need to be to config printers here and how do i set up other users for it or maybe just allow any user to change settings here.
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Standard procedure here is to remove beagle entirely - I prefer to keep some cpu cycles available for other things. J Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
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Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Have you looked at the beagle logs to see what it's doing? Also, try upgrading, the latest version's in my home repo on the build service (http://repos.opensuse.org/home:/Riggwelter) and I'm pretty sure Joe's got it in his repo too (http://repos.opensuse.org/home:/joeshaw). James -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 14:10, Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
I killed the damn dog right after I started. Reminded me too much of Microsoft Bob.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all.
Nah, bad code can be written in pretty much any language. mono.net is not the problem, as it is actually managed.
I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
No, it was about power, corruption and lies... ...oh and beer.... ...and pizza.... ...and hampsters. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com A thought that never changes Remains a stupid lie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue December 19 2006 21:53, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:36, Kai Ponte wrote:
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...and hampsters.
And hamsters.
Damn hampsterdance. OMG I'd forgotting about the evil insidious "Hampster Dance" - ROFLMAO!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7836547273687836884 http://www.hamsterdance.com/ Cheers, Curtis. P.S. Time to flood a server or two (aka /.'ing)? - -- Spammers Beware: Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Like the song say: "Everything's 'Zen'... I don't think so"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFiNQk7CQBg4DqqCwRAqjvAKDEN8xB0a48fpQH1btG9OIfWeHU3ACgzGeJ T+kW9GLD9Mz46rG7usgt7x0= =XS3n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday December 20 2006 1:11 am, Curtis Rey wrote:
On Tue December 19 2006 21:53, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:36, Kai Ponte wrote:
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...and hampsters.
And hamsters.
Damn hampsterdance.
OMG I'd forgotting about the evil insidious "Hampster Dance" - ROFLMAO!
Sure......how could you forget it, when you invented it?! :) Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:36, Kai Ponte wrote:
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...and hampsters.
And hamsters.
Damn hampsterdance.
I still prefer Alvin and the Chipmunks, the original rodent rock. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 21:53 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:36, Kai Ponte wrote:
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...and hampsters.
And hamsters.
Damn hampsterdance.
I use that as my e-mail notification. What can I say. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tirsdag 19 desember 2006 23:10, skrev Torkild U. Resheim:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-) Thanks for all the tips. I'll check them out although I guess I'll end up with uninstalling beagle and continue using find/grep/locate as usual.
The hamsters were funny :-D -- Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Torkild Ulvøy Resheim http://resheim.no
On Dec 20 2006 22:52, Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Tirsdag 19 desember 2006 23:10, skrev Torkild U. Resheim:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
Much worse. Everyone is programming in slow^W programming/scripting languages (also includes poorly implemented libraries), claims the CPU overhead they have is neglibible and outweighed by the evergrowing performance of processors. Hello, anybody home?!
Thanks for all the tips. I'll check them out although I guess I'll end up with uninstalling beagle and continue using find/grep/locate as usual.
Novell should stop starting[launching] beagle right after the user logs in. It should be an *opt-in* solution, not an opt-out. Same goes for ZMD in opensuse (SLEx => different story). -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday December 19 2006 5:10 pm, Torkild U. Resheim wrote:
Any chance beagled will _ever_ finish what it's doing and leave me in control of my computer? It's been using all of my CPU for two days and still going. It can't take that long to index a 60G disk.
Since Zen have a similar behavior I start to wonder if the Mono developers are plotting to take over the world's CPU power and use it to impose .net on us all. I guess this is what the Novell/Microsoft deal was all about ;-)
Cute. ;) I'd UNinstall Beagle and Zen.......use the openSUSE tool for updates. 'Works for me! Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Kai Ponte -
Kenneth Schneider -
Mike McMullin -
Randall R Schulz -
Torkild U. Resheim