Re: [opensuse] Virtualbox versus WMware
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ?
I do all my work in OO and to send it I save as MS office. If it is a complicated stuff or a presentation I do a quick check with MS running under crossover. Crossover works great with word, excel and pp. If you want outlook or access it will not work. Crossover is very reliable and it works as a linux program. I love it. The backup is very easy and protect all the MS license. It creates an archive called bottles that can be save as or even create an rpm. It can be imported in another system as well. VM ware is a very professional virtual system. Ain't cheap. I have the workstation. I tried VirtualBox, qemu and all of them worked but nothing is comparable to VMware. I do not use or need VMware for MS office. VMware is also very easy to backup. It does everything you can think off and more. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 15:23 -0700, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ?
I do all my work in OO and to send it I save as MS office. If it is a complicated stuff or a presentation I do a quick check with MS running under crossover. Crossover works great with word, excel and pp. If you want outlook or access it will not work. Crossover is very reliable and it works as a linux program. I love it. The backup is very easy and protect all the MS license. It creates an archive called bottles that can be save as or even create an rpm. It can be imported in another system as well. VM ware is a very professional virtual system. Ain't cheap. I have the workstation. I tried VirtualBox, qemu and all of them worked but nothing is comparable to VMware. I do not use or need VMware for MS office. VMware is also very easy to backup. It does everything you can think off and more. -=terry=-
Actually Outlook 2003 does work with Crossover and is supported by Codeweavers. I use it everyday both on my SLED SP1 desktop and my OpenSUSE 10.3 laptop to connect to our Exchange server. Crossover even supports Outlook's RPC over HTTPS connection mode. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 21 January 2008 06:23:48 Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ?
Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ?
VM ware is a very professional virtual system. Ain't cheap. I have the workstation. I tried VirtualBox, qemu and all of them worked but nothing is comparable to VMware. I do not use or need VMware for MS office. VMware is also very easy to backup. It does everything you can think off and more.
VMware comes in three options: 1. Workstation 2. Server 3. ESX Server Workstation is a fully featured desktop virtualisation program that installs on a host OS (Windows or Linux) and allows multiple guest OSs to be installed. Has multiple snapshots and VM cloning available. Has a price attached to it. Whether this is considered expensive depends though. Server is a desktop virtualisation program that is installed on Windows or Linux and that in some ways is more limited than workstation in that you can have only one snapshot and no cloning. However it does allow remote connections to be made and the VMs run without the console being open (not sure if workstation does this). Best of all, it's got no cost attached to it. ESX Server is an enterprise server virtualisation solution that installs on bare metal and you then install multiple guest OSs on top. Lots of management utilities and resource allocation per machine tools available. Also very expensive for individual users... Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ?
I do all my work in OO and to send it I save as MS office. If it is a complicated stuff or a presentation I do a quick check with MS running under crossover. Crossover works great with word, excel and pp. If you want outlook or access it will not work.
Just to save some expenses: I "save as" MS Office, from OOorg, as you do. However, For the "quick check" whether my documents will look ok with MS, I use wine and the Microsoft Office Viewers for Word, Excel and Powerpoint. As least they were made by Microsoft for people who still do not have MS-Office on their machines. ;-)) They work great with wine (At least the versions up to Office 2003 do) and best of all: They are free (as in beer) and I do not need to buy crossover or MS Office or a Windows License for a virtual machine. I also used outlook 2003 with wine connecting to an Exchange Server on SuSE 10.1, I believe. So wine is -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:11 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:35 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Since I have to use MS Office every now and then I would consider to run alternatively Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS Office through CrossOveR. Is WMware stable and reliable ? Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too). Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free. Which one is easier to install and backup ?
I do all my work in OO and to send it I save as MS office. If it is a complicated stuff or a presentation I do a quick check with MS running under crossover. Crossover works great with word, excel and pp. If you want outlook or access it will not work.
Just to save some expenses:
I "save as" MS Office, from OOorg, as you do.
However, For the "quick check" whether my documents will look ok with MS, I use wine and the Microsoft Office Viewers for Word, Excel and Powerpoint.
As least they were made by Microsoft for people who still do not have MS-Office on their machines. ;-))
They work great with wine (At least the versions up to Office 2003 do) and best of all: They are free (as in beer) and
I do not need to buy crossover or MS Office or a Windows License for a virtual machine.
I also used outlook 2003 with wine connecting to an Exchange Server on SuSE 10.1, I believe.
So wine is
Eberhard, That's a good tip! In my case I get MS office so I do not have to buy it. Crossover as you know come from the developers of wine. It is an excellent product that not only facilitate wine installation like firefox plugins etc but also makes backup and configuration of win programs fast and easy. Furthermore I believe a small fee to get crossover is my way to contribute to the developers of wine..and this is my most important reason to buy crossover. I do not use outlook but I though it did not run with wine or crossover. Do you remember any special setup. Ciao -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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