[opensuse] nVidia 8800GT loud fan - tips, tricks?
Listmates, I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible. Returning fan control to auto, the Duty Cycle varies between 30 and 50% depending on the demand on the system. Board temp and GPU temp average 45 and 49 deg. C, respectively. If my son cranks up a full screen graphic intense game, then the temps rise to about 51 and 57, respectively. The fans, sounds like it is about to cause the case (a heavy one at that) to attempt a vertical takeoff. Fan RPMS run between the 600s up to the 1,200s. The fan doesn't sound like a bad fan, it just sounds like it wants to fly. Are there any other ways to interface with the fan or any more setting with nviia-settings that will lesson the noise this thing produces? As always, thanks for your help in advanced and hopefully somebody has a silver bullet that will strip a few decibels from this propeller mounted on a card. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.coman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Le Tuesday 23 September 2008 09:17:03 David C. Rankin, vous avez écrit :
Listmates,
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible.
Returning fan control to auto, the Duty Cycle varies between 30 and 50% depending on the demand on the system. Board temp and GPU temp average 45 and 49 deg. C, respectively. If my son cranks up a full screen graphic intense game, then the temps rise to about 51 and 57, respectively. The fans, sounds like it is about to cause the case (a heavy one at that) to attempt a vertical takeoff. Fan RPMS run between the 600s up to the 1,200s. The fan doesn't sound like a bad fan, it just sounds like it wants to fly.
Are there any other ways to interface with the fan or any more setting with nviia-settings that will lesson the noise this thing produces? As always, thanks for your help in advanced and hopefully somebody has a silver bullet that will strip a few decibels from this propeller mounted on a card.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.coman
Hi, I have no soft solution, but those high-end cards need a good cooling, and are often noisy. However, if the sound is really unusual, it could be because of a fan problem in the card ventirad. Could you RMA it ? The other option I have in mind is to replace the factory ventirad by a better one. Brands like zalman have good reputation not only for CPU cooling but also for GPUs and Northbridges.... Hope it will help Cheers Matthias -- / \ /_!_\ My e-mail address has just changed. Please note the new one : matthias.titeux@inserm.fr _____________________________________________________________ Matthias Titeux, PhD Département de génétique des maladies cutanées et allergiques dans des modèles animaux et chez l'homme. INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan BP3028 31024 Toulouse cedex 03 __________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud!
Yup, that is what you get with a fan cooled "modern" video card :-( A turbine that drives you crazy.
Are there any other ways to interface with the fan or any more setting with nviia-settings that will lesson the noise this thing produces? As always, thanks for your help in advanced and hopefully somebody has a silver bullet that will strip a few decibels from this propeller mounted on a card.
Other than going to a totally different cooling solution (like water cooling, or a 3rd party replacement cooler like a Zalman Z-Machine GV1000)... I don't know of much you can do with a fan cooled video card to reduce the noise levels... :-( C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 00:17, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! ...
Returning fan control to auto, the Duty Cycle varies between 30 and 50% depending on the demand on the system. Board temp and GPU temp average 45 and 49 deg. C, respectively. If my son cranks up a full screen graphic intense game, then the temps rise to about 51 and 57, respectively. ...
Are there any other ways to interface with the fan or any more setting with nviia-settings that will lesson the noise this thing produces? ...
This is purely tangential, but a friend just upgraded his nVidia 7600-based card to an 8800 and it killed his power supply the instant he turned it on after installing it. The 8800 GT can draw nearly 250W!! So perhaps you should let the fan do its thing... Maybe relocate the box? I'd say "throw a blanket over it," but...
-- David C. Rankin
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This is purely tangential, but a friend just upgraded his nVidia 7600-based card to an 8800 and it killed his power supply the instant he turned it on after installing it. The 8800 GT can draw nearly 250W!!
So perhaps you should let the fan do its thing... Maybe relocate the box? I'd say "throw a blanket over it," but...
I have a 650W on mine, and am seriously considering going to a 1000W. :-P I have too many hard drives, and yup, the nVidia cards draw a LOT. The PSU I have now though is really working nicely... a BeQuiet 650. Best PSU I've ever had. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 06:58, Clayton wrote:
This is purely tangential, but a friend just upgraded his nVidia 7600-based card to an 8800 and it killed his power supply the instant he turned it on after installing it. The 8800 GT can draw nearly 250W!!
So perhaps you should let the fan do its thing... Maybe relocate the box? I'd say "throw a blanket over it," but...
I have a 650W on mine, and am seriously considering going to a 1000W.
:-P I have too many hard drives, and yup, the nVidia cards draw a LOT. ...
I recently added another drive to the box with my 8600 GT card and I was concerned about power, but when I looked into it, I discovered hard drives, even 10,000 RPM drives, barely sip at the power supply, while video cards just gulp!
... The PSU I have now though is really working nicely... a BeQuiet 650. Best PSU I've ever had.
C.
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Hello, On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 06:58, Clayton wrote: [..]
I have a 650W on mine, and am seriously considering going to a 1000W.
:-P I have too many hard drives, and yup, the nVidia cards draw a LOT. ...
I recently added another drive to the box with my 8600 GT card and I was concerned about power, but when I looked into it, I discovered hard drives, even 10,000 RPM drives, barely sip at the power supply, while video cards just gulp!
Well it *does* add up, the drives in my "not quite new anymore auxiliary number crunching and storage box" suck about 270 W during spinup ... :) The 1 TB drive I last bought is specced as: spinup 27.6 W seek 13.4 W read/wr 9.5 W idle 8.2 W standby 1.2 W sleep 1.2 W that one is a bit hungry at spinup, but there's nary a one using less than 20 W at spinup. AFAIR the other values of most drives of most manufacturers are in the same range as above. And which is more than the video card of my main box uses: 5.5 W (1.1A @ 5V) and has a bare naked chip with not even a cooler. Go figure. -dnh -- The more stupid the rules, the more fun one can have by following them _exactly_ to the letter. -- Alexander Schreiber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible.
Hi David, I've got a 9500 GS board in a new HP desktop that was also very noisy with the stock 11.0 install. It was quiet with Vista, before I blew it away. It quieted down when I installed the Nvidia proprietary driver. It's now noisy when the box is first turned on, but quiets down when the Nvidia module is loaded during boot-up. Sure, my kernel is now "tainted", but it seems to be worth it... Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible.
Hi David,
I've got a 9500 GS board in a new HP desktop that was also very noisy with the stock 11.0 install. It was quiet with Vista, before I blew it away. It quieted down when I installed the Nvidia proprietary driver. It's now noisy when the box is first turned on, but quiets down when the Nvidia module is loaded during boot-up. Sure, my kernel is now "tainted", but it seems to be worth it...
Regards, Lew
Thanks Lew, all: I have the latest nvidia binaries installed with the accompanying taint, a small trade-off for glxgears at 11,000 FPS and my son's full screen video games that just fly to the screen. (savage 2, spring, etc.). The blanket idea is a good one, but I think I will have to resort to the zalman solution. Thanks all for confirming that the fan noise is just expected on the 'hot' video cards. Too bad the card manufacturers don't put more emphasis on the annoying fan noise, but again, I guess the card would cost $3.00 more with a good fan. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 20:31, David C. Rankin wrote:
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible.
Hi David,
I've got a 9500 GS board in a new HP desktop that was also very noisy with the stock 11.0 install. It was quiet with Vista, before I blew it away. It quieted down when I installed the Nvidia proprietary driver. It's now noisy when the box is first turned on, but quiets down when the Nvidia module is loaded during boot-up. Sure, my kernel is now "tainted", but it seems to be worth it...
Regards, Lew
Thanks Lew, all:
I have the latest nvidia binaries installed with the accompanying taint, a small trade-off for glxgears at 11,000 FPS and my son's full screen video games that just fly to the screen. (savage 2, spring, etc.). The blanket idea is a good one, but I think I will have to resort to the zalman solution. Thanks all for confirming that the fan noise is just expected on the 'hot' video cards. Too bad the card manufacturers don't put more emphasis on the annoying fan noise, but again, I guess the card would cost $3.00 more with a good fan.
I just looked at the Zalman site. If you really want quiet, they have passive coolers for the graphic cards too.. What I find amazing though is as the processors have gotten faster and hotter, the fans have gotten bigger and quieter. The CPU cooler I've got on my amd X2 is really big. Heat pipes, and fins, and a 92mm fan that runs between 300 and 2500rpm. And the CPU has not gone about 40c even with high demand. It's the same for graphic cards too. One of my older AGP cards didn't even have a fan. Now the pci-e card in the X2 computer has a big heat sink and an 80mm fan. Heat pipes running around the card, and all sorts of things.. But it is quiet. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 9:20pm up 21 days 7:46, 5 users, load average: 1.47, 1.41, 1.24 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Mike wrote: [..]
even with high demand. It's the same for graphic cards too. One of my older AGP cards didn't even have a fan.
The video card displaying this mail right now does not even have a cooler, much less a fan. -dnh -- panic("Foooooooood fight!"); -- /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aha1542.c -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Mike wrote: [..]
even with high demand. It's the same for graphic cards too. One of my older AGP cards didn't even have a fan.
The video card displaying this mail right now does not even have a cooler, much less a fan.
-dnh
The card I took out only had a small chunk of aluminum over the chip... I rather liked the way it sounded. For the record, it doesn't matter if I set the fan on the nv card to run at 600 rpm or 1600 rpm, the sound is basically the same, loud... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, also David :) On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
David Haller wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Mike wrote: [..]
even with high demand. It's the same for graphic cards too. One of my older AGP cards didn't even have a fan.
The video card displaying this mail right now does not even have a cooler, much less a fan.
The card I took out only had a small chunk of aluminum over the chip... I ^^ you're missing something there ... rather liked the way it sounded.
Aye. Now consider, that mine has a much better analog signal quality than most other (newer) cards, at the moment it does 1152x864 @ 106 Hz totally sharp. Could do at least 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, IIRC with a meager 4 MB SGRAM. But my monitor is only 17" and could do more than 1280x960, but would probably lose sharpness above that. Oh, the card is >13 years old by now :) I wonder what the price for such cards is, I'd guess it's either ridiculously low or insanly high... I know that the later models of that card are quite pricey. And, having both that 17" CRT and a (<2 years old) 17" TFT on my desk, I still prefer the CRT. It's pretty dark lately and sadly (well, it's over 8 years old now, I think[1]). And it's quite hard to find a decent TFT anyways, I've yet to find a TFT that is to my likes (i.e. not-TN (but IPS/MVA etc. panel), 4:3 aspect, >=96 dpi (i.e. not 1280x1024 pixels on 19"[2]). It's supposed to be an improvement on my old CRT, is it not? And that sets a crisp 864 pixels height (on the viewable height of a 15" TFT!) as the minimum ;) and within budget. EIZO does some nice models, but those fitting my needs (not to speak of my likes) are out of budget. The 17" TFT on my desk is a compromise[3] (e.g. TN, 5:4 aspect), with which I'm not really happy, but at least I don't get headaches from it. It's an ok TFT I guess. *very big sigh* Recommendations (CRT & TFT) are welcome. Here or as PM. My CRT probably won't last another 8 years ... -dnh [1] tells you something about the quality of it, that it's just a bit dark now, doesn't it? [2] I "almost" see individual pixels on the 17" 1280x1024 TFT, anything coarser is just not acceptable. [3] same manufacturer as my CRT -- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. -- dima -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/09/27 06:21 (GMT+0200) David Haller composed:
(i.e. not-TN (but IPS/MVA etc. panel), 4:3 aspect, >=96 dpi (i.e. not 1280x1024 pixels on 19"[2]). It's supposed to be an improvement on my old CRT, is it not? And that sets a crisp 864 pixels height (on the viewable height of a 15" TFT!) as the minimum ;) and within budget. EIZO does some nice models, but those fitting my needs (not to speak of my likes) are out of budget. The 17" TFT on my desk is a compromise[3] (e.g. TN, 5:4 aspect), with which I'm not really happy, but at least I don't get headaches from it. It's an ok TFT I guess.
Recommendations (CRT & TFT) are welcome. Here or as PM. My CRT probably won't last another 8 years ...
Anything like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001226R or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176053 available on your side of the big pond? 100 DPI. -- "Unless the Lord builds the house, its builders labor in vain." Psalm 127:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/09/27 06:21 (GMT+0200) David Haller composed:
(i.e. not-TN (but IPS/MVA etc. panel), 4:3 aspect, >=96 dpi (i.e. not 1280x1024 pixels on 19"[2]). It's supposed to be an improvement on my old CRT, is it not? And that sets a crisp 864 pixels height (on the viewable height of a 15" TFT!) as the minimum ;) and within budget. EIZO does some nice models, but those fitting my needs (not to speak of my likes) are out of budget. The 17" TFT on my desk is a compromise[3] (e.g. TN, 5:4 aspect), with which I'm not really happy, but at least I don't get headaches from it. It's an ok TFT I guess.
Recommendations (CRT & TFT) are welcome. Here or as PM. My CRT probably won't last another 8 years ...
Anything like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001226R or
That's TN. As is the Samsung 17" I have (see above).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176053 available on
Doesn't even say which kind of panel it is (also on the HP Site). That's self-disqualifying.
your side of the big pond? 100 DPI.
Yeah. Something like that. Thanks anyway :) -dnh -- If you think, you're wrong, you might be right! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible.
Note: adjustments with nvclock can cause kdm to crash violently on logout. (remote ssh shutdown required) -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 15:42, David C. Rankin wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I have an EVGA 8800GT board that is just plain Loud! No overclocking, just the default 600,900 gpu and memory speeds. I have searched and the closest thing to rivatuner for linux is nvclock. I have installed and worked with nvclock setting the PWM Duty Cycle between 20-90% (nvclock -f -F 20, etc. returning to 'auto'). The change in sound from the fan is almost imperceptible.
Note: adjustments with nvclock can cause kdm to crash violently on logout. (remote ssh shutdown required)
I don't doubt that's true, but on the few occasions when I've over-overclocked my 8600 card, the screen went nuts (very interesting distortions), but I could still enter commands on the keyboard and use the nvclock command to undo the ill-chosen overclocking ("nvclock -r" or "nvclock --reset").
-- David C. Rankin
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