On 15 July 09, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Tuesday, 2009-07-14 at 20:14 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 17:59 +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:

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Carlos, AFAIU he wants to have two identities (with different SMTP servers) for the same IMAP account.

Yup. That's it. I tried to be as clear as possible this morning when I got home from work and sent the original email out. But this is what I am trying to do. I agree, Joachim, that I don't think it is possible. I will just stick w/ Evolution for now and manually run filters. Sorry for all the confusion. And thank you everyone for your assistance.

I think it might be possible, but I have to try first. Maybe later when I com back from work.

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On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:49 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:

Did you try the steps I listed? Which one failed?

All of them because they were per identity. I want to use 2 different smtp servers per 1 identity. The problem is I have 1 imap server distributing 2 different email accounts. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 07:51 -0400, James Knott wrote:

Perhaps I'm missing something, but why is it necessary to use different smtp servers? If it's the reply to address you're concerned about, you can set that and use any smtp server.

Because one is mikesd@mydomain.com and one is mikesd1@verizon.net There should be no reply to. It should come to your inbox as from mikesd@mydomain.com or mikesd1@verizon.net -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage said the following on 07/15/2009 07:36 AM:

The problem is I have 1 imap server distributing 2 different email accounts.

I'm not clear as to why this is a problem. I have fetchmail gathering mail from half a dozen boxes an putting it in a single mailbox on my local mail server. I use Thunderbird to access that mailbox via IMAP. So in effect I have one IMAP server distributing six different accounts. Thunderbird knows, somehow, the 'who' that the mail was "to" when I reply an makes sure that the reply has the corresponding "from". I don't know how it does that. I'm not sure the "how" is relevant to this discussion, only that it does. As far as Thunderbird is concerned I just have one SMTP server - the mail server. Why do I have the mail server? Well, it runs even when my workstation, a laptop, isn't turned on; it takes care of archiving and filtering. Running fetchmail means that my mail isn't left on remote machines that aren't under my control an security policy. Of course this may not be relevant to you, but bear it in mind. And of course I can access that mail server via a SSH tunnel from my laptop from any internet café, and its probably more secure against casual sniffing than most people's mail. Its not foolproof, but the return for the minuscule amount of effort is good. And of course I can access that mail server from any machine on my LAN ... and you figure out the other advantages. So how do I route *outgoing* mail? While I can pull a few tricks similar to the ones discussed in this thread, there is a much simpler way. I let my mail server do it. My mail server runs Postfix. That has the ability to determine which SMTP server to use based on various attributes. I won't go into the details, since its very extensive and not all illustrated in the documentation - you'll need to ask in the relevant forums. If openSUSE could run without installing Postfix I'd be reluctant to suggest this, but it seems you have to install it, or Exim, even is your machine, like my laptop, only runs Thunderbird and has no need for a full blown MTA like Postfix. But if you are using a single machine then you get all this. -- The trouble with troubleshooting is that trouble shoots back. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:49 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:

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Did you try the steps I listed? Which one failed?

All of them because they were per identity. I want to use 2 different smtp servers per 1 identity.

The problem is I have 1 imap server distributing 2 different email accounts.

One or other of us is misunderstanding how it works. How do you think you will be able to tell Thunderbird which SMTP server to use for a particular message that you write? What do you think an identity is? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Multiple_Identities Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

okay okay

now

let's say I want to send an email w/ mikesd@mydomain.com that has to go through my local postfix install. If I try to send that through my isp it will bounce back because it's not an ISP domain name after @

I don't understand why it has to go through the postfix if you're trying to set up multiple SMTP addresses in TBird/Evo. And if it does have to go through postfix, I don't understand why you don't just control it's onward routing with postfix?

So, the way evolution does this is let's me set smtp servers so so I can set an email address to each server and then pick them from a drop down box.

So that's what happens in TBird if you set up two identities on an account.

When I set up accounts on evolution I was able to select outgoing server only.

A TBird identity has an email address associated with it, but you don't have to receive mail to that address. i.e. you can treat it as send-only. Just set up a TBird account with two identities and play with it. You won't break anything.

Eh. I don't know how else to explain this. I'm just sticking w/ evo and running filters by hand. That's why I wanted to get away from evolution, but it's not big deal.

You can do just the same with TBird or it can automatically route some cases or even more with appropriate plugins as described on that FAQ page. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-07-15 at 07:36 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:49 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:

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Did you try the steps I listed? Which one failed?

All of them because they were per identity. I want to use 2 different smtp servers per 1 identity.

No. You must define one account with two identities. Then, each identity has a different smtp server, if you wish. Notice that the identies can share several properties from the account; they can even have the same mail address if you like. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpd6UgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W3ZQCfVmds/vy1u29Uov60r7Stu3rg Cr8AmgMg0pNIxe+rU+zDmM/ybhmIlKIa =Uxs5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org