Hi, When I tether the laptop to the phone to get internet, the phone offers Bluetooth, USB, and WiFi. The later two I have tested and work perfectly. Bluetooth, I don't know how it is supposed to work. I get two applets related to BT in the task bar of XFCE, but I see the phone on neither. Nor do I see anything related to BT in the network manager. Is it supposed to work, and how? Maybe a wiki page on it? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-08-27 17:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Is it supposed to work, and how?
While I haven't tethered with Bluetooth, I have used it for other things. Generally, you'd link the phone to some device. It will list available devices and you choose the one you want. There may be a pass code, IIRC. Go into your phone settings to find Bluetooth.
On 2023-08-27 17:52, James Knott wrote:
On 2023-08-27 17:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Is it supposed to work, and how?
While I haven't tethered with Bluetooth, I have used it for other things. Generally, you'd link the phone to some device.
Yes, me too.
It will list available devices and you choose the one you want. There may be a pass code, IIRC. Go into your phone settings to find Bluetooth.
No, this is a Linux side problem. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-08-27 21:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, this is a Linux side problem.
This might help: https://www.howtogeek.com/829360/how-to-set-up-bluetooth-on-linux/
On 2023-08-27 22:38, James Knott wrote:
On 2023-08-27 21:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, this is a Linux side problem.
This might help: https://www.howtogeek.com/829360/how-to-set-up-bluetooth-on-linux/
No, says nothing about network in there. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-08-28 08:15, James Knott wrote:
On 2023-08-28 08:11, Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, says nothing about network in there.
Well, I guess you'll have to rely on WiFi and USB. I use both. While I generally use WiFi, I'll use USB if I'm going to be tethered for a while, so that I don't run down the phone battery.
USB charges the phone at the expense of the laptop battery :-P Wifi on the 5Ghz band seems to drain very slowly for me, with the phone just a foot away. Still at 100% after 25 minutes. I did not check yesterday the figures. The thing is, BT power is negligible, that's why I was tempted. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-08-28 08:31, Bengt Gördén wrote:
On 2023-08-28 14:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
BT power is negligible
Almost the same for bandwidth. I would stick to sharing the phone's wifi.
I just found out that a Samsung phone in the group automatically connected to my WiFi. It has the credentials from another trip! I had to tell my phone to disconnect it, and it has stuck. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-08-28 08:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I just found out that a Samsung phone in the group automatically connected to my WiFi. It has the credentials from another trip! I had to tell my phone to disconnect it, and it has stuck.
???? Are you saying it had the same SSID? Do you not have encryption enabled?
On 2023-08-28 08:59, James Knott wrote:
On 2023-08-28 08:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I just found out that a Samsung phone in the group automatically connected to my WiFi. It has the credentials from another trip! I had to tell my phone to disconnect it, and it has stuck.
????
Are you saying it had the same SSID? Do you not have encryption enabled?
On another trip, 2 years ago, I gave that phone my credentials because I had the connectivity and the other phone didn't (in Spain). Now we are in Canada and it is the reverse (I have a SIM prepaid card, unlimited in the USA, just 5 gigs in Canada) :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-08-28 09:12, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Are you saying it had the same SSID? Do you not have encryption enabled?
On another trip, 2 years ago, I gave that phone my credentials because I had the connectivity and the other phone didn't (in Spain). Now we are in Canada and it is the reverse (I have a SIM prepaid card, unlimited in the USA, just 5 gigs in Canada) 🙂
I still don't understand your problem with that phone. BTW, I'm on Rogers and get 35 GB with my plan and 5G.
On 2023-08-28 08:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'll use USB if I'm going to be tethered for a while, so that I don't run down the phone battery.
USB charges the phone at the expense of the laptop battery 😛
Wifi on the 5Ghz band seems to drain very slowly for me, with the phone just a foot away. Still at 100% after 25 minutes. I did not check yesterday the figures.
The thing is, BT power is negligible, that's why I was tempted.
If I'm tethered long enough to worry about the battery, my computer is plugged into AC power. Years ago, I used the WiFi tether and then forgot to turn it off. I was left with a dead battery. These days, however, the WiFi hotspot will turn off after 10 minutes without a connection. BTW, my own computer, an eleven year old ThinkPad E520, only supports 2.4 GHz WiFi. 😭 It also doesn't have Bluetooth.
On 2023-08-28 08:41, James Knott wrote:
On 2023-08-28 08:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'll use USB if I'm going to be tethered for a while, so that I don't run down the phone battery.
USB charges the phone at the expense of the laptop battery 😛
Wifi on the 5Ghz band seems to drain very slowly for me, with the phone just a foot away. Still at 100% after 25 minutes. I did not check yesterday the figures.
The thing is, BT power is negligible, that's why I was tempted.
If I'm tethered long enough to worry about the battery, my computer is plugged into AC power. Years ago, I used the WiFi tether and then forgot to turn it off. I was left with a dead battery. These days, however, the WiFi hotspot will turn off after 10 minutes without a connection.
There is an activity detector and timeout that disconnects the WiFi if nobody uses it.
BTW, my own computer, an eleven year old ThinkPad E520, only supports 2.4 GHz WiFi. 😭 It also doesn't have Bluetooth.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:39:47 -0400, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@gmx.es> wrote:
When I tether the laptop to the phone to get internet, the phone offers Bluetooth, USB, and WiFi. The later two I have tested and work perfectly. Bluetooth, I don't know how it is supposed to work. I get two applets related to BT in the task bar of XFCE, but I see the phone on neither. Nor do I see anything related to BT in the network manager.
Is it supposed to work, and how?
I don't really know, but am guessing that your laptop and phone need to be 'Bluetooth network encapsulation protocol' (BNEP) capable. I don't know how you determine whether they are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bluetooth_protocols#Bluetooth_network_...) -- Robert Webb
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