Any sucsessfully apt-get upgrade from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.5? I have one problem: important packets are keept back, specially kdebase3 and kdelibs3 (*) Anyone knows the reason or how to investigate it? Thanks :) (*) k3b kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdebase3 kdebase3-devel kdebindings3-javascript kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdelibs3-devel kdemultimedia3 kdemultimedia3-jukebox kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdepim3-time-management kdesdk3 kdetoys3 kdeutils3 kdevelop3 -- Benjamí http://weblog.bitassa.net .
On Thu December 1 2005 2:32 pm, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
Any sucsessfully apt-get upgrade from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.5?
I have one problem: important packets are keept back, specially kdebase3 and kdelibs3 (*)
Anyone knows the reason or how to investigate it?
I did the upgrade using You, and it did work. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
On 12/1/05, Paul Cartwright
On Thu December 1 2005 2:32 pm, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
Any sucsessfully apt-get upgrade from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.5?
I have one problem: important packets are keept back, specially kdebase3 and kdelibs3 (*)
Anyone knows the reason or how to investigate it?
I did the upgrade using You, and it did work.
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
I did it using apt. Anyway, Paul, do you have any font problems after that upgrade? My KDE now behaves very strange. It can not pick the highest resolution set in X. It switched to a lower one, and after that, it does not offer the highest one. I switched to some in between, but that the fonts went wrong. After some playing around, I put it in some strange resolution, and font sizes and it is OK (kind of), but it does not save these settings. So after relogin I have to set it pack. Anyone has similar problems? Cheers -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)
On Thu December 1 2005 3:24 pm, Sunny wrote:
I did it using apt.
so what is your apt/sources.list file look like??
Anyway, Paul, do you have any font problems after that upgrade? My KDE now behaves very strange. It can not pick the highest resolution set in X. It switched to a lower one, and after that, it does not offer the highest one. I switched to some in between, but that the fonts went wrong. After some playing around, I put it in some strange resolution, and font sizes and it is OK (kind of), but it does not save these settings. So after relogin I have to set it pack.
my hardware setup says: 1280X1024 (SXGA) and 65536 ( 16 bit) color,using a Dell M782 monitor looks like my options include all the way to 3200X2400 (QUXGA). But as I am... um, how do I say this politically correct <G> optically challenged ( bifocally speaking), I seriously doubt I could read the fonts in that resolution. What I have found is that the terminal program fonts changed, but I like the new default. You can change that under settings, anyway.
Anyone has similar problems?
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pcartwright/key.asc
On Thursday 01 December 2005 15:59, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Thu December 1 2005 3:24 pm, Sunny wrote:
I did it using apt.
so what is your apt/sources.list file look like??
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 xorg rpmkeys base kde gnome mozilla samba3 suser-rbos suser-oc2pus suser-guru suser-gbv suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-sbarnin suser-jogley suser-ollakka labplot funktronics packman packman-i686 wine kde3-stable security ximian Risky, huh :)
Anyway, Paul, do you have any font problems after that upgrade? My KDE now behaves very strange. It can not pick the highest resolution set in X. It switched to a lower one, and after that, it does not offer the highest one. I switched to some in between, but that the fonts went wrong. After some playing around, I put it in some strange resolution, and font sizes and it is OK (kind of), but it does not save these settings. So after relogin I have to set it pack.
my hardware setup says: 1280X1024 (SXGA) and 65536 ( 16 bit) color,using a Dell M782 monitor
No I'm using xorg. I loaded it, because I tought that this strange KDE behaviour is because of the old XF. Anyway, in both xorg and XFree these are the settings I have in their config files, and still the same bihaviour: Section "Monitor" Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry" DisplaySize 320 240 HorizSync 30-80 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "DELL 1800FP(ANALOG)" Option "DPMS" VendorName "DELL" VertRefresh 56-85 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" EndSection Section "Device" BoardName "GeForce4 MX 420" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "nvidia" Identifier "Device[0]" Screen 0 Option "Rotate" "off" VendorName "NVidia" EndSection As you can see, the max resolution is 1280x1024. But KDE Display setup allows me (as max): 1280x960@60Hz. I even do not know where from it get this value. Anyway, after every relogin, it always returns to 800x600 and breaks all fonts and sizes.
looks like my options include all the way to 3200X2400 (QUXGA). But as I am... um, how do I say this politically correct <G> optically challenged ( bifocally speaking), I seriously doubt I could read the fonts in that resolution. What I have found is that the terminal program fonts changed, but I like the new default. You can change that under settings, anyway.
Anyone has similar problems?
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pcartwright/key.asc
Thanks Sunny
On Thu December 1 2005 6:34 pm, Sunny wrote:
so what is your apt/sources.list file look like??
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 xorg rpmkeys base kde gnome mozilla samba3 suser-rbos suser-oc2pus suser-guru suser-gbv suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-sbarnin suser-jogley suser-ollakka labplot funktronics packman packman-i686 wine kde3-stable security ximian
Risky, huh :)
do be honest, I don't understand what would be risky, as I don't know that much about the apt sources..
my hardware setup says: 1280X1024 (SXGA) and 65536 ( 16 bit) color,using a Dell M782 monitor
No I'm using xorg. I loaded it, because I tought that this strange KDE behaviour is because of the old XF. Anyway, in both xorg and XFree these are the settings I have in their config files, and still the same bihaviour:
what is xorg, and what amI using that you aren't?? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
El Dijous, 1 de Desembre de 2005 21:24, Sunny va escriure:
I did it using apt.
Anyway, Paul, do you have any font problems after that upgrade? My KDE now behaves very strange. It can not pick the highest resolution set in X.
Seems that the problem (with my keept back packets) is because the new KDE 3.5 works with xorg instead of xfree86. I'm running xfree86. The change is easy, without problems? I use nVidia with the proprietary drivers, that are a headache :( I've seen similar font problems with Kubuntu. Maybe this solution works for SUSE: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#setxdpi If you solve the problem, maybe I get courage and switch to xorg :) -- Benjamí http://weblog.bitassa.net .
On Thursday 01 December 2005 11:32, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
Any sucsessfully apt-get upgrade from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.5?
I have one problem: important packets are keept back, specially kdebase3 and kdelibs3 (*)
Anyone knows the reason or how to investigate it?
Thanks :)
(*) k3b kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdebase3 kdebase3-devel kdebindings3-javascript kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdelibs3-devel kdemultimedia3 kdemultimedia3-jukebox kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdepim3-time-management kdesdk3 kdetoys3 kdeutils3 kdevelop3
-- Benjamí http://weblog.bitassa.net
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Yes. On 9.3. `apt-get update`, then `apt-get -V upgrade` It will hold back 3-4 kde packages. That means upgrades are available, but apt needs more info (like a decision) from you before it can install/upgrade them. When those are upgraded fine, do `apt-get -V upgrade` again just to find out what packages are still held back, and if any dependencies were fixed automatically. Then `apt-get -V install kdebase3 kdemultimedia3` and the other kde* packages that were held back. At this point, apt will tell you what the problem is. Probably a conflict with the existing version of the package you are upgrading. Issue `apt-get -V remove kdebase3` or whatever the offending packages are. Then install the new version with `apt-get -V install kdebase3 ...` I had to remove kdevelop3 for reasons I don't recall. I also had to uninstall superkaramba. This is because as of kde 3.5, superkaramba is now part of KDE, so the new package conflicts with the old package. HTH Mark
El Divendres, 2 de Desembre de 2005 02:03, Mark A. Taff va escriure:
Then `apt-get -V install kdebase3 kdemultimedia3` and the other kde* packages that were held back.
Thanks, -V is more clear that the -s that I've used. Seems that the problem is with some *devel packages. One baffle thing: apt-get with all KDE keept back packages: # apt-get install -s -V kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdebase3 kdebase3-devel kdebindings3-javascript kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdelibs3-devel kdemultimedia3 kdemultimedia3-jukebox kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdepim3-time-management kdetoys3 kdeutils3 kdevelop3 [snip] The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdelibs3: Depends: qt3 (>= 3.3.5) but 3.3.4-29 is to be installed E: Broken packages but kdelibs3 alone: # apt-get install -s -V kdelibs3 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: qt3 (3.3.5-22) qt3-extensions (3.3.5-22) qt3-mysql (3.3.5-22) qt3-postgresql (3.3.5-22) The following packages will be upgraded kdelibs3 (3.4.3-2 => 3.5.0-14) qt3 (3.3.4-29 => 3.3.5-22) qt3-extensions (3.3.4-29 => 3.3.5-22) qt3-mysql (3.3.4-29 => 3.3.5-22) qt3-postgresql (3.3.4-29 => 3.3.5-22) The following packages will be REMOVED: arts-devel (1.4.2-3) kdebase3-devel (3.4.3-2) kdelibs3-devel (3.4.3-2) kdevelop3 (3.2.3-2) qt3-devel (3.3.4-8) qt3-devel-doc (3.3.4-29) qt3-devel-tools (3.3.4-29) qt3-man (3.3.4-29) qt3-non-mt (3.3.4-24) 5 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 removed and 311 not upgraded. Remv arts-devel (1.5.0-5 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv kdevelop3 (3.3.0-5 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv kdebase3-devel (3.5.0-15 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv kdelibs3-devel (3.5.0-14 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv qt3-man (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv qt3-devel-tools (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv qt3-devel-doc (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv qt3-devel (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Remv qt3-non-mt (3.3.4-24 ) Inst qt3-extensions [3.3.4-29] (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) [] Inst qt3-postgresql [3.3.4-29] (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) [] Inst qt3-mysql [3.3.4-29] (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) [] Inst qt3 [3.3.4-29] (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Inst kdelibs3 [3.4.3-2] (3.5.0-14 SuSE:9.1/stable) Conf qt3 (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Conf qt3-extensions (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Conf qt3-postgresql (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Conf qt3-mysql (3.3.5-22 SuSE:9.1/stable) Conf kdelibs3 (3.5.0-14 SuSE:9.1/stable) qt3 >= 3.3.5 is available! itaca:~ # apt-cache policy qt3 qt3: Installed: 3.3.4-29 Candidate: 3.3.5-22 ^^^^^^^^ ! Version Table: 3.3.5-22 0 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/kde pkglist 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/kde3-stable pkglist *** 3.3.4-29 0 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/kde3-stable pkglist 100 RPM Database 3.3.1-36.16 0 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/update-prpm pkglist 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/update pkglist 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/security-prpm pkglist 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/security pkglist 3.3.1-36.12 0 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/update pkglist 3.3.1-33 0 500 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/base pkglist :? Regards, -- Benjamí http://weblog.bitassa.net .
On Friday 02 December 2005 07:15, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
El Divendres, 2 de Desembre de 2005 02:03, Mark A. Taff va escriure:
Then `apt-get -V install kdebase3 kdemultimedia3` and the other kde* packages that were held back.
Thanks, -V is more clear that the -s that I've used. Seems that the problem is with some *devel packages.
One baffle thing:
<snip>
-- Benjamí http://weblog.bitassa.net
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install kdelibs3 by itself first to get the latest qt installed. Then try installing the rest of kde. That will probably work wonders. Keep in mind this is a dependency tree, and changing a single package has the potential to completely change the tree. Also bear in mind that when you try to put new software, like kde 3.5 on old base software, like an old qt, old kernel, and old other libs, you will likely run into problems where the libs are too old, so you have to upgrade them as well. Also remember, you only need a few packages for a slim KDE, like kdebase, kdelibs, etc. After that it is easy to add supplementart kde packages like graphics, multimedia, etc. Mark
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