NOVELL TO UNLEASH LINUX DESKTOP IN FALL
NOVELL TO UNLEASH LINUX DESKTOP IN FALL Novell demonstrated a prototype called the Novell Linux Desktop last week at LinuxWorld. The corporate Linux desktop merges technology acquired from SuSE Linux and Ximian Corp and is due to ship in the fall. http://news.com.com/Novell+to+release+enhanced+Linux+in+fall/2100-7344_3-530... -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
I saw an alpha version some weeks ago, they are using Anaconda for installation, indeed, the release I saw still had the Shadowman in right upper corner, but, anything else new. Just an SuSE Linux Desktop with XD2, at least, that's what I saw.. El lun, 09-08-2004 a las 13:32, Fred Miller escribió:
NOVELL TO UNLEASH LINUX DESKTOP IN FALL
Novell demonstrated a prototype called the Novell Linux Desktop last week at LinuxWorld. The corporate Linux desktop merges technology acquired from SuSE Linux and Ximian Corp and is due to ship in the fall.
http://news.com.com/Novell+to+release+enhanced+Linux+in+fall/2100-7344_3-530...
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On Monday 09 August 2004 14:32, Fred Miller wrote:
NOVELL TO UNLEASH LINUX DESKTOP IN FALL
Novell demonstrated a prototype called the Novell Linux Desktop last week at LinuxWorld. The corporate Linux desktop merges technology acquired from SuSE Linux and Ximian Corp and is due to ship in the fall.
Man, I hope they don't blow it. I have been *so* put off of Gnome(after being a vocal advocate many versions ago) - I've come to really embrace KDE. On the surface, this appears to be a sway of technologies based on acquisitions rather than common sense, although the Mono aspect of it makes a lot of sense. Mono and Gnome are tied at the hip, of course. I would go back to Gnome if they lost the condescending attitude towards the user re: window manager and other things. I really don't like running both Gnome and KDE in the same session - too much bloat...and one of the things I liked about Pro 9.1 was the focus on KDE. Are they being distracted away from the better desktop? Time will tell... J.C. P.S. I don't mean to start a Gnome/KDE flame war - I know each has it's strengths and lots of users like Gnome. That's cool - that's why I love Linux: choice. I just started to have problems when one of the main architects behind it told me that application developers would need to recode their app to work around Metacity's lack of configurability. :P -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah say, son, you're about as sharp as a bowlin' ball.
On Monday 09 August 2004 14:32, Fred Miller wrote:
NOVELL TO UNLEASH LINUX DESKTOP IN FALL
Novell demonstrated a prototype called the Novell Linux Desktop last week at LinuxWorld. The corporate Linux desktop merges technology acquired from SuSE Linux and Ximian Corp and is due to ship in the fall.
Man, I hope they don't blow it. I have been *so* put off of Gnome(after being a vocal advocate many versions ago) - I've come to really embrace KDE. On the surface, this appears to be a sway of technologies based on acquisitions rather than common sense, although the Mono aspect of it makes a lot of sense. Mono and Gnome are tied at the hip, of course.
I would go back to Gnome if they lost the condescending attitude towards the user re: window manager and other things. I really don't like running both Gnome and KDE in the same session - too much bloat...and one of the things I liked about Pro 9.1 was the focus on KDE. Are they being distracted away from the better desktop?
Time will tell...
J.C.
P.S. I don't mean to start a Gnome/KDE flame war - I know each has it's strengths and lots of users like Gnome. That's cool - that's why I love Linux: choice. I just started to have problems when one of the main architects behind it told me that application developers would need to recode their app to work around Metacity's lack of configurability. :P
I went to a Novell presentation about a month ago. They said that SUSE was likely to remain a KDE focused distro. The new "Novell Desktop" is not a distro, but just a desktop. I'm sure it will be compatible with SUSE, but also Redhat, etc. They said that Novells goal is to have Novell Desktop running on a third of all Linux desktops!!!!! So if you want to stick with KDE you should have no problem with using the normal SUSE releases. What I would like to know is what level of support is going to come with the Novell Desktop. Support is really what they are selling, so I hope it is more than just the install support that comes with SUSE. Greg -- Greg Freemyer
On Monday 09 August 2004 15:44, Greg Freemyer wrote:
I went to a Novell presentation about a month ago.
They said that SUSE was likely to remain a KDE focused distro.
Excellent, thanks for the info, Greg... Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah say, son, you're about as sharp as a bowlin' ball.
On Monday August 9 2004 2:54 pm, John Coldrick wrote:
On Monday 09 August 2004 14:32, Fred Miller wrote:
NOVELL TO UNLEASH LINUX DESKTOP IN FALL
Novell demonstrated a prototype called the Novell Linux Desktop last week at LinuxWorld. The corporate Linux desktop merges technology acquired from SuSE Linux and Ximian Corp and is due to ship in the fall.
Man, I hope they don't blow it. I have been *so* put off of Gnome(after being a vocal advocate many versions ago) - I've come to really embrace
You're not alone!
KDE. On the surface, this appears to be a sway of technologies based on acquisitions rather than common sense, although the Mono aspect of it makes a lot of sense. Mono and Gnome are tied at the hip, of course.
Of course.
I would go back to Gnome if they lost the condescending attitude towards the user re: window manager and other things. I really don't like running both Gnome and KDE in the same session - too much bloat...and one of the things I liked about Pro 9.1 was the focus on KDE. Are they being distracted away from the better desktop?
Time will tell...
I sure hope not! And, you are right....it IS better, although NOT as fast as it was and SHOULD be.
P.S. I don't mean to start a Gnome/KDE flame war - I know each has it's strengths and lots of users like Gnome. That's cool - that's why I love Linux: choice. I just started to have problems when one of the main architects behind it told me that application developers would need to recode their app to work around Metacity's lack of configurability. :P
Probably so. Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
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I would go back to Gnome if they lost the condescending attitude towards the user re: window manager and other things. I really don't like running both Gnome and KDE in the same session - too much bloat...and one of the things I liked about Pro 9.1 was the focus on KDE. Are they being distracted away from the better desktop?
Same here. I first became comfortable back in the day using Linux via Gnome. But after they dumped sawfish for metacity and Nautilus I was very turned off. Not the sawfish was better or worse - just more accessible. Since Metacity the config gui is insulting. I comes kludged in many areas IMHO, even in RH distros and since Metacity it takes a lot more effort than it should to correct. If your an admin setting up a desktop for the office and are familiar and competent configuring Gnome/metacity then it's a perfect fit in many respects - the office users have a harder time getting in and screwing things up. But it's not user friendly at all IMHO and for home/SOHO use it hinders rather than promotes LOTD in the public sector. Cheers, Curtis. - -- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them! If pro is the opposite of con, then the opposite of progress must be congress! In the Ocean it's called salvage, on land it's called grave robbing! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBH9yL7CQBg4DqqCwRAmaPAJ97grY0yjfnZl3RujtSyKry3YOLmQCfSTYv qO18ElGPj8DbhQA8HVic1Io= =9NKi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sunday 15 August 2004 16:58, Curtis Rey wrote: KDE seems to be a much better desktop for the new to Linux user (like me). I've had a lot of luck with it and haven't broken it yet. I especially like the many integrated applications. Hope SuSE sticks with it.
I would go back to Gnome if they lost the condescending attitude towards the user re: window manager and other things. I really don't like running both Gnome and KDE in the same session - too much bloat...and one of the things I liked about Pro 9.1 was the focus on KDE. Are they being distracted away from the better desktop?
Same here. I first became comfortable back in the day using Linux via Gnome. But after they dumped sawfish for metacity and Nautilus I was very turned off. Not the sawfish was better or worse - just more accessible. Since Metacity the config gui is insulting. I comes kludged in many areas IMHO, even in RH distros and since Metacity it takes a lot more effort than it should to correct. If your an admin setting up a desktop for the office and are familiar and competent configuring Gnome/metacity then it's a perfect fit in many respects - the office users have a harder time getting in and screwing things up. But it's not user friendly at all IMHO and for home/SOHO use it hinders rather than promotes LOTD in the public sector.
Cheers, Curtis.
-- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them!
If pro is the opposite of con, then the opposite of progress must be congress!
In the Ocean it's called salvage, on land it's called grave robbing!
-- "God bless us everyone."
What would be nice, is IBM porting the OS/2 Work Place Shell (WPS) to Linux. I've never seen another desktop that comes anywhere close to what it could do 12 years ago. James F. Pirtle wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 16:58, Curtis Rey wrote: KDE seems to be a much better desktop for the new to Linux user (like me). I've had a lot of luck with it and haven't broken it yet. I especially like the many integrated applications. Hope SuSE sticks with it.
I would go back to Gnome if they lost the condescending attitude towards the user re: window manager and other things. I really don't like running both Gnome and KDE in the same session - too much bloat...and one of the things I liked about Pro 9.1 was the focus on KDE. Are they being distracted away from the better desktop?
Same here. I first became comfortable back in the day using Linux via Gnome. But after they dumped sawfish for metacity and Nautilus I was very turned off. Not the sawfish was better or worse - just more accessible. Since Metacity the config gui is insulting. I comes kludged in many areas IMHO, even in RH distros and since Metacity it takes a lot more effort than it should to correct. If your an admin setting up a desktop for the office and are familiar and competent configuring Gnome/metacity then it's a perfect fit in many respects - the office users have a harder time getting in and screwing things up. But it's not user friendly at all IMHO and for home/SOHO use it hinders rather than promotes LOTD in the public sector.
Cheers, Curtis.
-- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them!
If pro is the opposite of con, then the opposite of progress must be congress!
In the Ocean it's called salvage, on land it's called grave robbing!
On Monday August 16 2004 9:18 am, James Knott wrote:
What would be nice, is IBM porting the OS/2 Work Place Shell (WPS) to Linux. I've never seen another desktop that comes anywhere close to what it could do 12 years ago.
'One slick GUI for sure! Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
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