[opensuse] Performance,
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem. Could you advice me please? Thanks -- Rui Manuel Martins -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Try to recompile your kernel. I usually change the type of my CPU and the value of some timer from 250 Hz (good for servers) to 1000 Hz (for workstations). On Sunday 13 April 2008 04:07:12 Rui Martins wrote:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
Could you advice me please?
Thanks
-- Rui Manuel Martins
-- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bogdan Cristea wrote:
Try to recompile your kernel. I usually change the type of my CPU and the value of some timer from 250 Hz (good for servers) to 1000 Hz (for workstations). In 10.3 there was also a bug: Bug 333739 - Sycalls are very slow
Disable: < CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y
# CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL is not set
(If you do not need auditing respectively have not the maintenance updates installed).
On Sunday 13 April 2008 04:07:12 Rui Martins wrote:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
Could you advice me please?
Thanks
-- Rui Manuel Martins
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Rui Martins wrote:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
Could you advice me please?
You could also increase the RAM to 1Gb or more. I had a P4 512kb here and doubling the RAM did make a difference HIH Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Rui Martins <rmartins16@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
Could you advice me please?
Thanks
Buy more ram. If you can't do that, use Xfce4 instead of kde or gnome. You can use it with Suse or download XUbuntu. But really, ram is the answer. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
"Rui Martins" <rmartins16@gmail.com> writes:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora).
Can you describe which parts are slow so we can isolate your problem. Also, like others have said, you should increase your RAM. You might also want to turn off Beagle. Charles
Hi! Am Sonntag 13 April 2008 schrieb Rui Martins:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
I have a PC that's running 10.3 with KDE on PIII 600 MHz and 384MB RAM just fine. However, there the main Workload is Firefox, KMail, OpenOffice and Gimp. What's your workload? Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Bach www.marix.org „Der einzige Weg, die Grenzen des Möglichen zu finden, ist ein klein wenig über diese hinaus in das Unmögliche vorzustoßen.“ - Arthur C. Clarke
Mine too. A P4 laptop with 512 MB RAM just works fine. Recompiling the kernel is a good idea but I don't hink you need more RAM since your PC seems good enough to run OpenSUSE efficiently. You can also try Damn Small Linux (DSL) or try XUbuntu which uses "Xfce" desktop environment. D. Matthias Bach skrev:
Hi!
Am Sonntag 13 April 2008 schrieb Rui Martins:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
I have a PC that's running 10.3 with KDE on PIII 600 MHz and 384MB RAM just fine. However, there the main Workload is Firefox, KMail, OpenOffice and Gimp. What's your workload?
Regards, Matthias
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On Saturday 12 April 2008 08:07:12 pm Rui Martins wrote:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
Could you advice me please?
I had for a while computer with Athlon XP, 512 MB RAM, nvidia video card with 64 MB and 80 MB HD. The RAM was never added as at that time I used mostly web applications, OpenOffice, GIMP and memory usage was always below 512 MB, though, more memory is always good idea. Where I have seen improvements was new faster HD and newer graphic card with 256 MB RAM. I added another 80 GB HD that was 2 times faster measured with program 'hdparm'. This brought faster loading of programs. The video card was surprise, as I considered 64 MB on old one as too much for my computer usage, but new one with 256 MB made machine to switch windows and desktops very fast without flicker. Than there is always software side. You probably should run command 'top' in terminal to see is there any application that is using CPU too much. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rui Martins wrote:
I'm not totally happy with my openSUSE 10.3 performance. It's not too fast (the same was with Ubuntu and Fedora). I think that are two ways: the first it's related to Gnome (probably high to my PC - P4, 512mb ram, 64mb video memory (dedicated), 60gb HD - or a kernel problem.
Could you advice me please?
Thanks
(1) Disable: openSuSE Updater Applet from running at login. (start menu->System->Desktop Applet) (2) Remove Beagle: as root # "rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry" I have a old PIII-800 w/384M and 10.3 runs just fine on. I also have an old AMD K6-2 450 w/256M that 10.3 runs just fine on as well (used as a hylafax server no gui) Basically 10.3 without a GUI needs about 77meg of ram for the base OS and a few services. With KDE, and a few services, you will need ~190-210meg (including Compiz-Fusion). As others have suggested if you use xfce4 as your desktop, then you will use somewhere between the two. However, if you have openSuSE updater running at logon and Beagle Index running, it will bring your system to its knees for the first 20 minutes of runtime. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin a écrit :
However, if you have openSuSE updater running
this was true for zen and 10.2, but not for 10.3 at logon and Beagle Index this one, yes... jdd -- Jean-Daniel Dodin Président du CULTe www.culte.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd sur free schreef:
David C. Rankin a écrit :
However, if you have openSuSE updater running
this was true for zen and 10.2, but not for 10.3
at logon and Beagle Index
this one, yes...
jdd
10.3 stil updater takes a lot of cpu checking, and whatever it does, i have to turn it off immediately when i am on 10.3 sometimes... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 6.4" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Oddball wrote:
jdd sur free schreef:
David C. Rankin a écrit :
However, if you have openSuSE updater running
this was true for zen and 10.2, but not for 10.3
at logon and Beagle Index
this one, yes...
jdd
10.3 stil updater takes a lot of cpu checking, and whatever it does, i have to turn it off immediately when i am on 10.3 sometimes...
The slowness grows exponentially with the number of software repositories you have selected. The reason is that the Updater has to parse, refresh and build all of the indexes for rpms available and installed on the system. Take a look at /var/cache/zypp/zypp.db and you will get a feel for the sheer size of the information being churned when the applet is active. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Oddball wrote:
jdd sur free schreef:
David C. Rankin a écrit :
However, if you have openSuSE updater running
this was true for zen and 10.2, but not for 10.3
at logon and Beagle Index
this one, yes...
jdd
10.3 stil updater takes a lot of cpu checking, and whatever it does, i have to turn it off immediately when i am on 10.3 sometimes...
The slowness grows exponentially with the number of software repositories you have selected. The reason is that the Updater has to parse, refresh and build all of the indexes for rpms available and installed on the system. Take a look at /var/cache/zypp/zypp.db and you will get a feel for the sheer size of the information being churned when the applet is active.
How does deb handle this? do they just have fewer repos? A friend of mine is running Kubuntu and I must say installing from repos are much faster (the whole experience); updating the available packages takes seconds (not the downloading, just getting the available updates). I have tried reading up on deb vs rpm, but its not easy getting a sober, non emotional, description from the two camps. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mannemerak <mannemerak@gmail.com> writes:
How does deb handle this? do they just have fewer repos? A friend of mine is running Kubuntu and I must say installing from repos are much faster (the whole experience); updating the available packages takes seconds (not the downloading, just getting the available updates).
Yes, Synaptic is way faster than zypper and YaST. I left SuSE for a while to try out Ubuntu and this is the one thing I like about it. Charles
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 03:52:08AM -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
Mannemerak <mannemerak@gmail.com> writes:
How does deb handle this? do they just have fewer repos? A friend of mine is running Kubuntu and I must say installing from repos are much faster (the whole experience); updating the available packages takes seconds (not the downloading, just getting the available updates).
Yes, Synaptic is way faster than zypper and YaST. I left SuSE for a while to try out Ubuntu and this is the one thing I like about it.
Try openSUSE 11.0, the solver and repository handling was rewritten exacly because of the bad performance. Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF Markus Rex, HRB 16746 AG Nuernberg main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);} -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 18 April 2008 09:59:10 Michael Schroeder wrote:
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 03:52:08AM -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
Mannemerak <mannemerak@gmail.com> writes:
How does deb handle this? do they just have fewer repos? A friend of mine is running Kubuntu and I must say installing from repos are much faster (the whole experience); updating the available packages takes seconds (not the downloading, just getting the available updates).
Yes, Synaptic is way faster than zypper and YaST. I left SuSE for a while to try out Ubuntu and this is the one thing I like about it.
Try openSUSE 11.0, the solver and repository handling was rewritten exacly because of the bad performance.
Cheers, Michael.
what will happen if I install the zypper present in 11 (eventually recompiled from scratch) on a 10.3 installation? Should I expect breakage of some sort? Unfortunately the zypper in 10.3 is really exasperating :( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:05:31AM +0200, Nico Sabbi wrote:
what will happen if I install the zypper present in 11 (eventually recompiled from scratch) on a 10.3 installation? Should I expect breakage of some sort? Unfortunately the zypper in 10.3 is really exasperating :(
It's not possible, as the way updates are handled in 11.0 is different from 10.3. Sorry, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF Markus Rex, HRB 16746 AG Nuernberg main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);} -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 18 Apr 2008, Nico Sabbi wrote:
what will happen if I install the zypper present in 11 (eventually recompiled from scratch) on a 10.3 installation? Should I expect breakage of some sort? Unfortunately the zypper in 10.3 is really exasperating :(
there are a couple of repos zppp:backport and yast:backport which you can try but things tend to break from time to time! dr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin schreef:
Oddball wrote:
jdd sur free schreef:
David C. Rankin a écrit :
However, if you have openSuSE updater running
this was true for zen and 10.2, but not for 10.3
at logon and Beagle Index
this one, yes...
jdd
10.3 stil updater takes a lot of cpu checking, and whatever it does, i have to turn it off immediately when i am on 10.3 sometimes...
The slowness grows exponentially with the number of software repositories you have selected. The reason is that the Updater has to parse, refresh and build all of the indexes for rpms available and installed on the system. Take a look at /var/cache/zypp/zypp.db and you will get a feel for the sheer size of the information being churned when the applet is active.
Yeah, i am aware of that, but i am too lazy to change it on 10.3, cause i am seldom there ;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 6.4" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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