[opensuse] My cat walked on my laptop's keyboard and changed the screen setting
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings. The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing. I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/10/17 07:36, Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing.
I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions?
I'm afraid I have to AOL. My mum doesn't have a cat, but she does do all sorts of strange things with her system. At present, she has no taskbar at the bottom, her screen icons are all random sizes and I can't resize them, and her screen starts in low resolution then goes up to standard resolution, but moves all the icons into the low-res area so they won't stay where she wants them. So to echo Per, how do I get things back to the default? Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 27 oktober 2017 11:54:48 CEST schreef Wols Lists:
On 27/10/17 07:36, Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing.
I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions?
I'm afraid I have to AOL. My mum doesn't have a cat, but she does do all sorts of strange things with her system.
At present, she has no taskbar at the bottom, her screen icons are all random sizes and I can't resize them, and her screen starts in low resolution then goes up to standard resolution, but moves all the icons into the low-res area so they won't stay where she wants them.
So to echo Per, how do I get things back to the default?
Cheers, Wol
If you're talking KDE Plasma5, remove ~/.config/plasm* whilst not logged in. If the screen settings stay confused, do the same for ~/.local/share/kscreen This should reset the desktop to default. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-10-27 08:36, Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing.
I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions?
That's typically the result of ctrl-alt-minus or plus. :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:36:13 +0200 Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
Where's the photo? Sorry, can't help :( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:36:13 +0200 Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
Where's the photo? Sorry, can't help :(
Dave, here you go - https://cloud.jessen.ch/index.php/apps/gallery/s/BCpyW1fzCSlGC1H Our cats are called "Red" and "Blue", you figure out which one is which. They're currently about 5 months old, both female. I'll spare you the rest. The photos are not sorted or filtered for quality/focus/etc. I'll get to that later. Some of my favourites - 8554 (cat on desk) 8556 (cat on desk) 8583 8637 (in tree) 8653 8682 (with mouse) 8683 (with mouse) 8701 (with mouse) 8842 8881 (cat on laptop, the one Dave asked for) At least 3 mice were harm..... uh, consumed. Apologies for this is entirely OT posting. Replies to opensuse-offtopic please. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen composed on 2017-10-27 16:28 (UTC+0200):
Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:36:13 +0200 Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
Where's the photo? Sorry, can't help :(
Dave, here you go -
https://cloud.jessen.ch/index.php/apps/gallery/s/BCpyW1fzCSlGC1H
Our cats are called "Red" and "Blue", you figure out which one is which. They're currently about 5 months old, both female. I'll spare you the rest. The photos are not sorted or filtered for quality/focus/etc. I'll get to that later.
Some of my favourites - ... Apologies for this is entirely OT posting. Replies to opensuse-offtopic please.
I see no humor. From the "photo" request I expected a screenshot of the ill behavior. Instead I got a never completing tab full of social media BS framed by entirely illegible mousetype controls/menus/buttons. Is is true, not a 42.3 typo, 12.3, meaning using openSUSE 12.3 and thus KDE4? KDE3? Does the laptop have more than one video output connector type and have an external display connected, which also has more than one possible connector type? Care to share /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ~/.xsession-errors, and output from lspci -nnk | grep -A4 VGA so we might see clues to a solvable problem? Does the problem persist if logging in as some other user? If KDE4 on 12.3, can you open configure desktop display configuration show list of available display resolutions (hover the tiny icons to find tooltip) select and apply an appropriate one, and have it survive a session restart? Can an IceWM session be started and function as expected? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2017-10-27 16:28 (UTC+0200):
I see no humor. From the "photo" request I expected a screenshot of the ill behavior.
Oh I see. Sorry, never even occurred to me. :-(
Is is true, not a 42.3 typo, 12.3, meaning using openSUSE 12.3 and thus KDE4? KDE3?
Correct, 12.3 + KDE4. When it aint broke ...
Does the laptop have more than one video output connector type and have an external display connected, which also has more than one possible connector type? Care to share /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ~/.xsession-errors, and output from
Yes, it has an external VGA socket, but nothing was connected. The issue has been resolved (toggle desktop effects), I guess the logs are no longer interesting?
If KDE4 on 12.3, can you open
configure desktop
display configuration
show list of available display resolutions (hover the tiny icons to find tooltip)
select and apply an appropriate one, and have it survive a session restart?
That was the first thing I tried - 1600x900, and it survived a restart. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.6°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 09:19:12 +0200 Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2017-10-27 16:28 (UTC+0200):
I see no humor. From the "photo" request I expected a screenshot of the ill behavior.
Oh I see. Sorry, never even occurred to me. :-(
Never occurred to me either :) Apologies to anybody on the list who was offended by my OT posting and kudos to Per for his response. A little tolerance goes a long way, IME. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10%
Correction - it is the entire desktop that has grown bigger, incl. taskbar. I tried Carlos' suggestion of Ctrl-Alt-minus/plus, but it had no effect (either way). This is so annoying! -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10%
Correction - it is the entire desktop that has grown bigger, incl. taskbar.
Also the lock screen. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.2°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Per Jessen <per@computer.org> [10-27-17 08:25]:
Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10%
Correction - it is the entire desktop that has grown bigger, incl. taskbar.
I tried Carlos' suggestion of Ctrl-Alt-minus/plus, but it had no effect (either way).
This is so annoying!
I saw and used that some years ago but the displayed configuration names have changed since. you might have some success with: configure desktop -> display and monitor -> displays -> Scale Display -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [10-27-17 08:47]:
* Per Jessen <per@computer.org> [10-27-17 08:25]:
Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10%
Correction - it is the entire desktop that has grown bigger, incl. taskbar.
I tried Carlos' suggestion of Ctrl-Alt-minus/plus, but it had no effect (either way).
This is so annoying!
I saw and used that some years ago but the displayed configuration names have changed since. you might have some success with: configure desktop -> display and monitor -> displays -> Scale Display
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [10-27-17 08:47]:
* Per Jessen <per@computer.org> [10-27-17 08:25]:
Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10%
Correction - it is the entire desktop that has grown bigger, incl. taskbar.
I tried Carlos' suggestion of Ctrl-Alt-minus/plus, but it had no effect (either way).
This is so annoying!
I saw and used that some years ago but the displayed configuration names have changed since. you might have some success with: configure desktop -> display and monitor -> displays -> Scale Display
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.7°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/10/17 09:07 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it.
Isn't you issue not the "how did it happen?" but rather 'how can I fix it?" -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 27/10/17 09:07 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it.
Isn't you issue not the "how did it happen?" but rather 'how can I fix it?"
Exactly! I've obviolusly asked the cat, but I'm not getting very far :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Per Jessen <per@computer.org> [10-27-17 09:23]:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 27/10/17 09:07 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it.
Isn't you issue not the "how did it happen?" but rather 'how can I fix it?"
Exactly! I've obviolusly asked the cat, but I'm not getting very far :-)
really :) maybe you would have better luck asking my wife. may take a lot longer to understand her logic than that of the cat, though.... (ducking to safety) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 27 oktober 2017 15:21:53 CEST schreef Per Jessen:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 27/10/17 09:07 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it.
Isn't you issue not the "how did it happen?" but rather 'how can I fix it?"
Exactly! I've obviolusly asked the cat, but I'm not getting very far :-)
man cat ???? -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 27 oktober 2017 15:21:53 CEST schreef Per Jessen:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 27/10/17 09:07 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it.
Isn't you issue not the "how did it happen?" but rather 'how can I fix it?"
Exactly! I've obviolusly asked the cat, but I'm not getting very far :-)
man cat ????
Brilliant!!!! should have thought of that myself! -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 27 oktober 2017 15:52:36 CEST schreef Per Jessen:
Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 27 oktober 2017 15:21:53 CEST schreef Per Jessen:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 27/10/17 09:07 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
xrandr and/or nvidia-settings (don't recall you mentioning which driver) has the ability to scale the display and control associated "panning".
Yep, I thought of that too, but I couldn't imagine any 3-4 finger key combination that would alter it.
Isn't you issue not the "how did it happen?" but rather 'how can I fix it?"
Exactly! I've obviolusly asked the cat, but I'm not getting very far :-)
man cat ????
Brilliant!!!! should have thought of that myself!
And if that doesn't help, try 'dog'. https://software.opensuse.org/package/dog It's an "enhanced replacement for cat" :D -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/10/17 16:42, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Exactly! I've obviolusly asked the cat, but I'm not getting very
> far :-)
man cat ????
Brilliant!!!! should have thought of that myself! And if that doesn't help, try 'dog'. https://software.opensuse.org/package/dog It's an "enhanced replacement for cat" :D
Unlike mutt, which is an improved version of t'bird (at least, some people think so :-) Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:36:13 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right.
Try pressing together left Alt+Super+8 (number eight). In GNOME 3 this is a combination used for magnifying the screen. If it does not help try to find what combination is used for the same purpose in KDE, since the behaviour you describe fits the picture perfectly, i.e. you cat magnified the screen. Pure thing probably has trouble with its sight. I mean your cat. :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Juan R. de Silva wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:36:13 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right.
Try pressing together left Alt+Super+8 (number eight).
In GNOME 3 this is a combination used for magnifying the screen. If it does not help try to find what combination is used for the same purpose in KDE, since the behaviour you describe fits the picture perfectly, i.e. you cat magnified the screen.
That sounds like it might be it. At least it gave me some ideas for googling - somewhere I cam along Alt-Shift-F12 (toggle desktop effects?) - that did it. Thanks for the inspiration Juan! -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/10/17 02:36 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing.
I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions?
Does the use of something like 'lxrandr' allow you to switch back and forth to other screen sizes and when you go back the problem went away? I recall in the dim an distant past of a 10.x or 11.x having a laptop do this, and that was my tool of choice at the time. If I fixed it any other way don't recall. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing.
I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions?
Restore your KDE config from a BTRFS snapshot? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
I really didn't want to write $SUBJ, but I cannot figure how to revert to the regular settings.
The laptop is running KDE on Linux 12.3, the windows are now slightly bigger than the available screen, maybe 10% - they pan along with the movement of the mouse, up/down, left/right. I expect some sort of BIOS settings, I did a reboot but that changed nothing.
I've checked the display settings, nothing there. Any suggestions?
Restore your KDE config from a BTRFS snapshot?
No btrfs here, but restoring from the daily backup could have been an option, except I'm not sure if the laptops do daily backups. :-( -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.5°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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