[opensuse] Need to install 11.2 on 4GB SSD - what to ditch?
Hi everybody, our company has a few Lenovo S10e Netbooks out there, all equipped with a 4GB SSD and no harddrive. They're in for a pretty rough handling and we've tried harddrives - they died after a few weeks, sometimes even a few days in the field. Currently, they're running openSUSE 11.1 but are in dire need of an update - the 11.1 was more of a workaround. Sometimes only the root account works, sometimes they grind to a screeching halt, etc. Suffice it to say that none of our users is really happy with them right now, so I'm looking to upgrade them to 11.2. What we need: - Gnome environment - XDM to login (GDM is not customizable enough) - QT3 libs - Firefox 3.5, Thunderbird 2.0 - OpenOffice.org 3.0.1, Adobe Reader 9.x - A 256MB swap partition What we don't need: - Games - QT4 - Other desktop environments or window managers After remove tons of packages, documentation, unneccessary locale data, etc. I'm down to roughly 2.8GB now: martin/nbrieke$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 3.6G 2.8G 755M 80% / udev 246M 316K 245M 1% /dev However, that still feels like too much for my taste. I've gone through YaST2 Software Management several times, looking for packages to remove but have to say that I've reached the point where I simply don't know what else to do. Simply put: has anyone managed to go even further than that? Or have I reached the ceiling? Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried Telefon: +49 (0) 89/755099-41 Telefax: +49 (0) 89/45237-399 Mobil: +49 (0) 172/2102355 Email: martin@rhm.de HRB Muenchen 73617 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 08:29 +0100, Martin Jungowski wrote:
Hi everybody,
our company has a few Lenovo S10e Netbooks out there, all equipped with a 4GB SSD and no harddrive. They're in for a pretty rough handling and we've tried harddrives - they died after a few weeks, sometimes even a few days in the field.
Try using kiwi. IIRC, you can build images that can be dd'd to the device (I think kiwi calls them OEM images). kiwi uses an xml file to define an installed system. I use it to make images that are accessed via PXE for diskless images. I don't use X, and the images are 35 MB-ish. With kiwi, you can add what you want and rebuild until the images are a size you can live with.
From the kiwi docs:
An oem image is a virtual disk image representing all partitions and bootloader information like it exists on a real disk. The image format is the same compared to the VMX image type. All flavours explained in the VMX chapter also applies to the OEM type. The original idea of an oem image is to provide this virtual disk data to OEM vendors which now are able to deploy the system independently onto their storage media. The deployment can happen from any OS including Windows if a tool to dump data on a disk device exists. The oem image type is also used to deploy images on USB sticks because in principal it is the same workflow. kiwi has other image formats as well. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer schreef:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 08:29 +0100, Martin Jungowski wrote:
Hi everybody,
our company has a few Lenovo S10e Netbooks out there, all equipped with a 4GB SSD and no harddrive. They're in for a pretty rough handling and we've tried harddrives - they died after a few weeks, sometimes even a few days in the field.
Try using kiwi. OP : if you're going that way, why not try susestudio ? http://susestudio.com/
Regards, Koenraad Lelong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 10:48 +0100, Koenraad Lelong wrote:
Roger Oberholtzer schreef:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 08:29 +0100, Martin Jungowski wrote:
Hi everybody,
our company has a few Lenovo S10e Netbooks out there, all equipped with a 4GB SSD and no harddrive. They're in for a pretty rough handling and we've tried harddrives - they died after a few weeks, sometimes even a few days in the field.
Try using kiwi. OP : if you're going that way, why not try susestudio ? http://susestudio.com/
Absolutely. Suse studio uses kiwi to do what it does. Studio is a nice GUI. KIWI is the stuff behind the GUI. I think I have seen a GUI package for KIWI. I have not tried it. Or maybe I am imagining it. I just prefer to run it locally, as I have some local things that I add to the images. Also, I can check in the scripts I use in our subversion so I know what is happening. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 09:16 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
kiwi has other image formats as well.
One more great thing about the kiwi approach is that part of the build allows you to specify specific things you want removed/kept. This means that you can install an rpm, and then get rid of the things you do not want from it. This is great when you are trying to make a small image. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 09:16 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
kiwi has other image formats as well.
One more great thing about the kiwi approach is that part of the build allows you to specify specific things you want removed/kept. This means that you can install an rpm, and then get rid of the things you do not want from it. This is great when you are trying to make a small image.
You can check out the Kiwi min-gnome example http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/KIWI/Cookbook_Recipe05 It uses GDM and does not include OO, but that is easy to fix. In the pre-configured state this produces a 1.3 GB image. Robert
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Martin Jungowski wrote:
After remove tons of packages, documentation, unneccessary locale data, etc. I'm down to roughly 2.8GB now:
martin/nbrieke$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 3.6G 2.8G 755M 80% / udev 246M 316K 245M 1% /dev
However, that still feels like too much for my taste. I've gone through YaST2 Software Management several times, looking for packages to remove but have to say that I've reached the point where I simply don't know what else to do.
Simply put: has anyone managed to go even further than that? Or have I reached the ceiling?
I think I manage to get to about 2.2Gb. AFAIR I usually also get rid of a lot of fonts, ghostscript and latex stuff. Sorry, I don't have a list. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.3°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:29:44 +0100 Martin Jungowski <martin@rhm.de> wrote:
Hi everybody,
our company has a few Lenovo S10e Netbooks out there, all equipped with a 4GB SSD and no harddrive. They're in for a pretty rough handling and we've tried harddrives - they died after a few weeks, sometimes even a few days in the field.
Currently, they're running openSUSE 11.1 but are in dire need of an update - the 11.1 was more of a workaround. Sometimes only the root account works, sometimes they grind to a screeching halt, etc. Suffice it to say that none of our users is really happy with them right now, so I'm looking to upgrade them to 11.2.
What we need: - Gnome environment - XDM to login (GDM is not customizable enough) - QT3 libs - Firefox 3.5, Thunderbird 2.0 - OpenOffice.org 3.0.1, Adobe Reader 9.x - A 256MB swap partition
What we don't need: - Games - QT4 - Other desktop environments or window managers
After remove tons of packages, documentation, unneccessary locale data, etc. I'm down to roughly 2.8GB now:
martin/nbrieke$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 3.6G 2.8G 755M 80% / udev 246M 316K 245M 1% /dev
However, that still feels like too much for my taste. I've gone through YaST2 Software Management several times, looking for packages to remove but have to say that I've reached the point where I simply don't know what else to do.
Simply put: has anyone managed to go even further than that? Or have I reached the ceiling?
Martin
Hi Install the Goblin (moblin) UI, or use SUSE Studio to build your own version of Goblin; http://en.opensuse.org/Goblin I'm running it from a SHDC card on my ASUS netbook. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.42-0.1-default up 19 days 3:19, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.16, 0.09 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - CUDA Driver Version: 190.53 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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