[opensuse] KMix locking up recently
Anyone having an issue recently (~last week..) where the kmix widget in the task bar in kde (V4.6.00) locks up - can't change volume with multimedia keys, or mute etc. Think there may have been a recent update...? It does seem to react visually, but nothing happens. Thanks, John. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/5/2011 4:20 AM, John Bennett wrote:
Anyone having an issue recently (~last week..) where the kmix widget in the task bar in kde (V4.6.00) locks up - can't change volume with multimedia keys, or mute etc. Think there may have been a recent update...? It does seem to react visually, but nothing happens.
Thanks, John.
Yup. Its usually not Kmix that went AWOL, it turned out to be the sound system in my case. I had to go thru Yast again and re-setup the sound system all over again. Linux sound is getting flakier and flakier of late. Especially with intel sound chips. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 August 2011 04:26:04 John Andersen wrote:
On 8/5/2011 4:20 AM, John Bennett wrote:
Anyone having an issue recently (~last week..) where the kmix widget in the task bar in kde (V4.6.00) locks up - can't change volume with multimedia keys, or mute etc. Think there may have been a recent update...? It does seem to react visually, but nothing happens.
Thanks, John.
Yup. Its usually not Kmix that went AWOL, it turned out to be the sound system in my case. I had to go thru Yast again and re-setup the sound system all over again.
Linux sound is getting flakier and flakier of late. Especially with intel sound chips.
Yes and the sound quailty is going west , i am thinking of chnaging the mother board in this box because it does not have enough PCI slots to allow me to use my SB sound card and the builtin Intel one is as noisey as hell Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.10-0.2-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.6.00 (4.6.0) 07:20 up 5 days 8:24, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.05, 0.01 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/08/11 16:22, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 08 August 2011 04:26:04 John Andersen wrote:
On 8/5/2011 4:20 AM, John Bennett wrote:
Anyone having an issue recently (~last week..) where the kmix widget in the task bar in kde (V4.6.00) locks up - can't change volume with multimedia keys, or mute etc. Think there may have been a recent update...? It does seem to react visually, but nothing happens.
Thanks, John. Yup. Its usually not Kmix that went AWOL, it turned out to be the sound system in my case. I had to go thru Yast again and re-setup the sound system all over again.
Linux sound is getting flakier and flakier of late. Especially with intel sound chips. Yes and the sound quailty is going west , i am thinking of chnaging the mother board in this box because it does not have enough PCI slots to allow me to use my SB sound card and the builtin Intel one is as noisey as hell
Pete .
Just to throw another light on this subject, I just wonder if this really has anything to do with "kmix". Perhaps it just so happens that it is a coincidence that for a (?)couple of people this lock-up occurred when kmix was at the forefront. I have experienced "lock-ups" at random times: within seconds after logging into the oS (11.04/KDE 4.7 - before and after the kernel 'update') or starting Dolphin or doing a "zypper refresh" from the command line. The "lock-ups" occur without any 'rhyme or reason'. (Just for the record: I have the 32-bit oS 11.04 installed, and using an nVidia 6600 card, and et cetra and et cetra and so on...) [BTW - I have pulseaudio thrown off the system and am only using alsa, and I have perfect sound with vlc (and xine for that matter).] BC -- "To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/7/2011 11:22 PM, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 08 August 2011 04:26:04 John Andersen wrote:
On 8/5/2011 4:20 AM, John Bennett wrote:
Anyone having an issue recently (~last week..) where the kmix widget in the task bar in kde (V4.6.00) locks up - can't change volume with multimedia keys, or mute etc. Think there may have been a recent update...? It does seem to react visually, but nothing happens.
Thanks, John.
Yup. Its usually not Kmix that went AWOL, it turned out to be the sound system in my case. I had to go thru Yast again and re-setup the sound system all over again.
Linux sound is getting flakier and flakier of late. Especially with intel sound chips.
Yes and the sound quailty is going west , i am thinking of chnaging the mother board in this box because it does not have enough PCI slots to allow me to use my SB sound card and the builtin Intel one is as noisey as hell
Pete .
Thing is, it didn't use to be this way. I've been using the same equipment for several years now (I think I started with OpenSuse 9.2 on this particular laptop) and the sound has gotten worse with each new release. The current version does not expose all of the channels the sound chip supports, no base/treble controls, no ability to control PCM separate from digital audio or even show the other channels in Kmix, and it lets the center woofer speaker in the bottom of the lap top run wild, uncontrolled by any volume sliders. So its shedding capability AND sounding worse with each new version. The intel/sigmatel sound chip is NOT THAT BAD of a chipset. Any noise you hear was probably software induced. Prior versions of the linux sound system worked just fine, sounding every bit as good as the Windows sound system that the laptop came with. I still have a Windows XP drive for this machine sitting on the shelf and when i swap that in and play some music the difference is astounding. Now the sound system is a huge "Just So" story, where yast seems to figure it out (most of the time), as long as you install all of the stuff it wants, including pulse audio, phonon, and all his ugly friends, OR you manually install only exactly what you want, and tell Yast hands off. But every tweek you do puts the whole thing at risk. Its a house of cards right now. I admit I haven't been keeping up with developments in this area and I don't fully understand all the new pieces and where they fit in. Phonon? Pulse? Alsa? GStreamer Backend ? Xine Backend (Really? load A video player for sound output?!?!!) -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thing is, it didn't use to be this way. I've been using the same equipment for several years now (I think I started with OpenSuse 9.2 on this particular laptop) and the sound has gotten worse with each new release. The current version does not expose all of the channels the sound chip supports, no base/treble controls, no ability to control PCM separate from digital audio or even show the other channels in Kmix, and it lets the center woofer speaker in the bottom of the lap top run wild, uncontrolled by any volume sliders.
So its shedding capability AND sounding worse with each new version.
The intel/sigmatel sound chip is NOT THAT BAD of a chipset. Any noise you hear was pro
But every tweek you do puts the whole thing at risk. Its a house of cards right now.
I admit I haven't been keeping up with developments in this area and I don't fully understand all the new pieces and where they fit in.
Phonon? Pulse? Alsa? GStreamer Backend ? Xine Backend (Really? load A video player for sound output?!?!!)
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And I thought it was just me.... :-) I have tried using the different backends, with varying degrees of success... Still find that xine seems to be the best "all round" one, (even though it is now deprecated..??) Spent hours the other day trying to figure out how to successfully rip a CD - kept getting them breaking up - only to change the backend (to xine), and found the problem was with the 'playing' not the 'ripping'.... John. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 August 2011 23:24:25 John Bennett wrote:
Thing is, it didn't use to be this way. I've been using the same equipment for several years now (I think I started with OpenSuse 9.2 on this particular laptop) and the sound has gotten worse with each new release. The current version does not expose all of the channels the sound chip supports, no base/treble controls, no ability to control PCM separate from digital audio or even show the other channels in Kmix, and it lets the center woofer speaker in the bottom of the lap top run wild, uncontrolled by any volume sliders.
So its shedding capability AND sounding worse with each new version.
The intel/sigmatel sound chip is NOT THAT BAD of a chipset. Any noise you hear was pro
But every tweek you do puts the whole thing at risk. Its a house of cards right now.
I admit I haven't been keeping up with developments in this area and I don't fully understand all the new pieces and where they fit in.
Phonon? Pulse? Alsa? GStreamer Backend ? Xine Backend (Really? load A video player for sound output?!?!!)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
And I thought it was just me.... :-) I have tried using the different backends, with varying degrees of success... Still find that xine seems to be the best "all round" one, (even though it is now deprecated..??) Spent hours the other day trying to figure out how to successfully rip a CD - kept getting them breaking up - only to change the backend (to xine), and found the problem was with the 'playing' not the 'ripping'.... John.
It's a dang minefiled i tell you minefield . I pulled my TV card to test the SB card the audio is great plus as you say lots more controls usable and visable including Bass & Treble missing on the Intel thing . Pulse audio made the mixer so wide it did not fit the width of the 2 21 inch monitors i use setup as side by side. Up untill one of the recent updates i had the ability to play more than one audio source at a time now if i got say kaffeine running and am browsing the net as well then i have no internet sound till i get rid of kaffeine and viciversa sound has becom far too complicated AFAICS lets get backto one sound system please Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.10-0.2-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.6.00 (4.6.0) 08:14 up 17:10, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Basil Chupin
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John Andersen
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John Bennett
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Peter Nikolic