I recently discovered the hard way that 'ping -c' has changed behaviour with SuSE 8. In the past, 'ping -c 5 host' would send 5 echo requests at one second intervals, then print its summary line, even if no replies had been received. With SuSE 8, it appears to wait forever for the 5 reply packets. This caused one of my monitoring scripts to hang and never tell me about the link that was down! Changing to 'ping -w 5 host' got my script working again. I was taught at a young age "If it works, don't fix it!" Who in their right mind would get the idea that a standard tool like ping needed to be changed??? -- Rick Green "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin