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Hugo Garcia

20 Dec 2005 20 Dec '05

23:30

Hi I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list. -H

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Bruce Marshall

20 Dec 20 Dec

23:35

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On Tuesday 20 December 2005 18:30, Hugo Garcia wrote:

Hi

I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list.

-H

Please read the archives about this issue!! This subject comes up about twice a year and causes no end of replies and discussion. Whether you like it or not, the way the list is being operated is the way it is going to be and all the discussion in the world is not going to change it. Thank you for not replying to this email.

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Ken Schneider

23:59

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On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 18:30 -0500, Hugo Garcia wrote:

Hi

I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list.

-H

All you have to do is write a letter to google and have them fix their email. It works fine in most of the email clients that run in linux. And it is called "Reply to List" feature. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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Hugo Garcia

21 Dec 21 Dec

00:23

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Sound like like a plan to me. Thanks -H On 12/20/05, Ken Schneider wrote:

On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 18:30 -0500, Hugo Garcia wrote:

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Hi

I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list.

-H

All you have to do is write a letter to google and have them fix their email. It works fine in most of the email clients that run in linux. And it is called "Reply to List" feature.

-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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ken

26 Dec 26 Dec

16:25

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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:23:50 -0500 Hugo Garcia wrote:

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On 12/20/05, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 18:30 -0500, Hugo Garcia wrote:

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Hi

I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list.

-H

All you have to do is write a letter to google and have them fix their email. It works fine in most of the email clients that run in linux. And it is called "Reply to List" feature.

What has google got to do with a list hosted by suse.com? Just wondering.... In my experience, mailing lists are normally set up so that replies are sent to the list. Of course they can be configured in a variety of other ways, but this is the default and the way most lists work and, to me anyway, what makes the most sense from the users' standpoint. It seems a little crazy to set it up otherwise (the way this one is), and then have to have these tiresome discussions a couple times a year and, whackiest of all, have to tell users to change email clients to defeat how this list was configured. Please don't reply to me. Reply to the list instead. :) Happy holidays of all kinds, ken -- "It is not knowable how long that conflict would last, it could last, you know, six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." --Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 2/7/03

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Patrick Shanahan

16:56

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* ken [12-26-05 11:29]:

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On 12/20/05, Ken Schneider wrote:

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All you have to do is write a letter to google and have them fix their email. It works fine in most of the email clients that run in linux. And it is called "Reply to List" feature.

What has google got to do with a list hosted by suse.com? Just wondering....

nothing. Their email is configured to not receive postings you, yourself, make, so when you post to the list, the post does not show in *your* received directory/listing. The point was that many people disagree with that 'feature'.

In my experience, mailing lists are normally set up so that replies are sent to the list. Of course they can be configured in a variety of other ways, but this is the default and the way most lists work and, to me anyway, what makes the most sense from the users' standpoint. It seems a little crazy to set it up otherwise (the way this one is), and then have to have these tiresome discussions a couple times a year and, whackiest of all, have to tell users to change email clients to defeat how this list was configured.

discussed MANY times here. If you are interested in the discussion, please consult the archives or search google with 'lists:suse.com' included as a search parameter. It is also addressed in the welcome message you received when you subscribed to this list. Question #7. And it is discussed in the faq, address in every message sig.

Please don't reply to me. Reply to the list instead. :)

THAT was the intent of the original conversation. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

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Carlos E. R.

18:35

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2005-12-26 at 11:25 -0500, ken wrote:

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All you have to do is write a letter to google and have them fix their email. It works fine in most of the email clients that run in linux. And it is called "Reply to List" feature.

What has google got to do with a list hosted by suse.com? Just wondering....

A lot. 1) The OP is using gmail, and 2) all the emails from this list contain a header that says: list-post: A proper mail client should see that, and automatically offer a button to click named "reply to list", which is different than "reply" or "reply to all". Thus, you have the choice of whom you want to send your reply. Gmail webmail lacks this feature, thus requesting google - they own gmail, right? - to add it, is proper.

In my experience, mailing lists are normally set up so that replies are sent to the list. Of course they can be configured in a variety of

If the list server program, ezmlm, had added a reply-to header, as you suggest, then we'd loose the power to choose whom to reply. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDsDfhtTMYHG2NR9URAjsFAJ9tXj72ajzhOQKfXG1EsGvxRP2wuwCgjRFz q97qVqVVvU0XNA9GWl7lM2c= =pxrF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Hugo Garcia

21:17

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ok I just copy and pasted your solution and suggested it to google. maybe if we alll do then they will change it. -H On 12/26/05, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Monday 2005-12-26 at 11:25 -0500, ken wrote:

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All you have to do is write a letter to google and have them fix their email. It works fine in most of the email clients that run in linux. And it is called "Reply to List" feature.

What has google got to do with a list hosted by suse.com? Just wondering....

A lot.

1) The OP is using gmail, and 2) all the emails from this list contain a header that says:

list-post:

A proper mail client should see that, and automatically offer a button to click named "reply to list", which is different than "reply" or "reply to all". Thus, you have the choice of whom you want to send your reply.

Gmail webmail lacks this feature, thus requesting google - they own gmail, right? - to add it, is proper.

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In my experience, mailing lists are normally set up so that replies are sent to the list. Of course they can be configured in a variety of

If the list server program, ezmlm, had added a reply-to header, as you suggest, then we'd loose the power to choose whom to reply.

- -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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Peter Nikolic

21 Dec 21 Dec

10:11

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On Tuesday 20 December 2005 23:30, Hugo Garcia wrote:

Hi

I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list.

-H

I can never work out what is so difficult about replying to the list Kmail works a treat maybe most other Mail programes are sub standard .. Pete -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA

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Carlos E. R.

12:46

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2005-12-21 at 10:11 -0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

I can never work out what is so difficult about replying to the list Kmail works a treat maybe most other Mail programes are sub standard ..

Is mozilla / thunderbird substandard, then? Because it doesn't have that feature, and has been in the whish list for ages... - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDqU6ktTMYHG2NR9URAmIKAJ0ccFpqzC7u4K10J2vEn1sQpiplTwCfe9h9 8tCtHrbnn3heKGwebcK9krY= =svHi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Ken Schneider

14:25

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On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:46 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Wednesday 2005-12-21 at 10:11 -0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I can never work out what is so difficult about replying to the list Kmail works a treat maybe most other Mail programes are sub standard ..

Is mozilla / thunderbird substandard, then? Because it doesn't have that feature, and has been in the whish list for ages...

Perhaps not sub-standard, just behind the times. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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Randall R Schulz

14:38

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Carlos, On Wednesday 21 December 2005 04:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Wednesday 2005-12-21 at 10:11 -0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I can never work out what is so difficult about replying to the list Kmail works a treat maybe most other Mail programes are sub standard ..

Is mozilla / thunderbird substandard, then? Because it doesn't have that feature, and has been in the whish list for ages...

Substandard? No. But they're distinctly inferior to KMail, that's obvious.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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Carlos E. R.

12:44

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2005-12-20 at 18:30 -0500, Hugo Garcia wrote:

I would like to suggest a Reply to in the emails that we get from this list in order to avaid double emails or sending to the person and not the list.

No. That's question #2 on this list faq. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDqU5DtTMYHG2NR9URAtKNAJ9JIvlpJerM3dL1tx0x1kSGGTWCJQCfR8lf BEVW0yy1vgYP8xuKJo4UfHU= =pyO/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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