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Hello! I'm in front of a decision and would appreciate some advice :) I currently have a 5 nodes LAN containing a proxy server connected to the Internet through ISDN. ADSL is becoming available in my region in June and I've been waiting for this to come for years now. There are two solutions which could be ok for me: the first one would allow me to connect 4 machines and is really cheaper. The second solution is more expensive but allows to have 10 different IPs. I have not the whole decision-power about the money allowed to the internet solution (hehe :)) and the 10 machines solution could be too expensive for the headquarters :) Thus I was wondering how is working the ADSL. I currently configured it as 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 subnet LAN, what will happen with the ADSL router? I guess each node will receive a dynamic IP (only a static IP for the main node which is currently the proxy server). What about the current IPs? I don't understand everything about ADSL mechanism and its involvement on the current well-working LAN. I wanted to know if I should be able to use the 4 nodes solution and connect more boxes through the proxy server (which would be one of those 4 "direct" connected boxes). I know it is certainly not legal as it would connect more than the allowed number of machines, but well, through a proxy (which is gonnaz be a SuSE server) you have not all the possibilities of direct connection, so it doesn't count :) I have hundreds of other questions but I don't want to make you all sleep and my message is not really SuSE oriented. Thank you for taking the time to help me :))) Ciao! Ju.
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On Tuesday 29 May 2001 06:40 am, you wrote:
Hello!
I'm in front of a decision and would appreciate some advice :) I currently have a 5 nodes LAN containing a proxy server connected to the Internet through ISDN. ADSL is becoming available in my region in June and I've been waiting for this to come for years now.
I have dsl here in san francisco, and i have a relatively inexpensive router that allows 4 boxes to be connected to the dsl. It does dhcp, so you can use that for the four boxes, or you can give them each a static ip. It also contains a firewall. I believe you can get them for more than 4 boxes. Mine is made by Asante' and costs about USD 150 -- Bob Rea Freedom is only privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all --Billy Bragg rear@sirius.com http://www.sirius.com/~rear
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Hello! :) The problem I will encounter with this solution is that my ISP will only allow the router to give 4 IPs to the LAN (through DHCP, right). Thus additional nodes could be only connected through a local proxy server (one of the DHCP client).. I guess it is feasable but I'm not sure... On Tuesday 29 May 2001 20:42, Bob Rea wrote:
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 06:40 am, you wrote:
Hello!
I'm in front of a decision and would appreciate some advice :) I currently have a 5 nodes LAN containing a proxy server connected to the Internet through ISDN. ADSL is becoming available in my region in June and I've been waiting for this to come for years now.
I have dsl here in san francisco, and i have a relatively inexpensive router that allows 4 boxes to be connected to the dsl. It does dhcp, so you can use that for the four boxes, or you can give them each a static ip. It also contains a firewall.
I believe you can get them for more than 4 boxes. Mine is made by Asante' and costs about USD 150
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Og course, you could use the solution I use :-) I could, theoretically, have about sixteen million IP devices if I wanted and noone would know ( I have... uhm...six. ) I have a 486DX which I use as a masquerading firewall. I have only one IP from my ISP. The PPtP pipe on the firewall gets that IP. on the inside, I can have whatever IP's I want, and using masquerading, noone would know. If you want to know how to install PPtP for ADSL on Linux, see http://www.tosmann.org/en/Linux/adsl There is as I understand, a fairly good ADSL solution for pppoe included with SuSE 7.1 ( never used pppoe ) Read the howtos on firewalling and masquerading, they ARE helpful, albeit a little aged :-) -tosi Þann þriðjudagur 29 maí 2001 19:15 skrifaðir þú:
Hello! :)
The problem I will encounter with this solution is that my ISP will only allow the router to give 4 IPs to the LAN (through DHCP, right). Thus additional nodes could be only connected through a local proxy server (one of the DHCP client)..
I guess it is feasable but I'm not sure...
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 20:42, Bob Rea wrote:
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 06:40 am, you wrote:
Hello!
I'm in front of a decision and would appreciate some advice :) I currently have a 5 nodes LAN containing a proxy server connected to the Internet through ISDN. ADSL is becoming available in my region in June and I've been waiting for this to come for years now.
I have dsl here in san francisco, and i have a relatively inexpensive router that allows 4 boxes to be connected to the dsl. It does dhcp, so you can use that for the four boxes, or you can give them each a static ip. It also contains a firewall.
I believe you can get them for more than 4 boxes. Mine is made by Asante' and costs about USD 150
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Okay! I'll read as much as possible about it all :) Thank you for the advice ;-))) Julien. On Tuesday 29 May 2001 22:03, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
Og course, you could use the solution I use :-)
I could, theoretically, have about sixteen million IP devices if I wanted and noone would know ( I have... uhm...six. )
I have a 486DX which I use as a masquerading firewall. I have only one IP from my ISP. The PPtP pipe on the firewall gets that IP. on the inside, I can have whatever IP's I want, and using masquerading, noone would know.
If you want to know how to install PPtP for ADSL on Linux, see http://www.tosmann.org/en/Linux/adsl
There is as I understand, a fairly good ADSL solution for pppoe included with SuSE 7.1 ( never used pppoe )
Read the howtos on firewalling and masquerading, they ARE helpful, albeit a little aged :-)
-tosi
Þann þriðjudagur 29 maí 2001 19:15 skrifaðir þú:
Hello! :)
The problem I will encounter with this solution is that my ISP will only allow the router to give 4 IPs to the LAN (through DHCP, right). Thus additional nodes could be only connected through a local proxy server (one of the DHCP client)..
I guess it is feasable but I'm not sure...
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 20:42, Bob Rea wrote:
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 06:40 am, you wrote:
Hello!
I'm in front of a decision and would appreciate some advice :) I currently have a 5 nodes LAN containing a proxy server connected to the Internet through ISDN. ADSL is becoming available in my region in June and I've been waiting for this to come for years now.
I have dsl here in san francisco, and i have a relatively inexpensive router that allows 4 boxes to be connected to the dsl. It does dhcp, so you can use that for the four boxes, or you can give them each a static ip. It also contains a firewall.
I believe you can get them for more than 4 boxes. Mine is made by Asante' and costs about USD 150
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* Julien Biezemans
Hello! :)
The problem I will encounter with this solution is that my ISP will only allow the router to give 4 IPs to the LAN (through DHCP, right). Thus additional nodes could be only connected through a local proxy server (one of the DHCP client)..
I guess it is feasable but I'm not sure...
Well to get some ideas have a look to the LRP http://www.linux-router.org and http://leaf.sourceforge.net By using some DMZ approach you should be able to use your ISP assigned IP's including load balancing mail www server. Of course you local network will go masquareded as Tor suggests HTH -- Togan Muftuoglu
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Bob Rea
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Julien Biezemans
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Togan Muftuoglu
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Tor Sigurdsson