On Wednesday 03 January 2007 01:16, Robert Lewis wrote:

Ian Moore wrote:

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Hi, I've recently installed Suse10.2 on my new computer which has an Intel DP965LT motherboard. It has the ICH8 chipset and Suse detected & installed the Intel HD-Audio driver (snd_hda_intel) for the soundcard, which works fine for playback. However, only the Digital Line In is available as an input (I'm running KDE and both it's mixer and Audacity only show Line Out & Digital Line In).

I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about enabling the analogue inputs?

Cheers, Ian

I have the same chipset in my laptop. Since 10.1 and maybe some update

on 10.2 (can't be sure) my microphone no longer works. I also noticed that sound output volume was quite low compared to XP. I d/l the latest alsa driver from the alsa site and the sound volume issue is now gone but I am still left with no microphone.

Glad to know I'm not alone! Hopefully alsa/suse/intel will soon release a driver that provides a working analogue input. I did notice the volume was much lower on this machine that it is on my old machine which runs FreeBSD, but I only have Suse on this new one, so I can't compare apples with apples. Cheers, Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 14:35, Ian Moore wrote:

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I have a system with that chipset and there's a BIOS option to choose legacy vs. HD audio. I set it to legacy and the analog audio output work as expected. I haven't tried connecting a microphone to that system.

So does the microphone or Line In appear as a channel in the mixer on your laptop? What about a digital Line In?

This isn't a laptop, it's a desktop board. There are 6 analog jacks and both an optical and a coaxial SPDIF connectors. In KMix's Input tab there are 5 input sliders shown: - Front Mic Boost - Mic Boost - Capture - Capture - Capture The Output tab bears 17 sliders, including two pairs of Mic sliders (Front and main, each with a boost and level control). There is a digital IEC958 output slider, a few line input sliders, a CD slider and so on. The label at the bottom right of the window is "HDA Intel". Frankly, I don't understand all this stuff since my audio needs are quite simple. Apart from the fact that I like to use optical cable between my computers and my stereo, I don't do anything fancy with audio. (I prefer the optical audio connection 'cause I'm in an old building that doesn't have three-prong plugs and I've discovered there's quite a large voltage differential between the outlets where my computers are plugged in and the one where the TV and stereo are plugged in. That may be because there are two phases present within my apartment--there's an electric stove. At least with optical cable I don't have to worry about those big sparks I used to see and the shocks I occasionally felt!!)

I saw a post about the BIOS setting when I was looking for a solution, but my BIOS has no such setting (and I updated to the latest BIOS yesterday)

Just a thought, but have you explored your BIOS settings thoroughly? I often find them confusingly organized and frequently have a hard time finding things I know are their 'cause I've used them before!

Cheers, Ian

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Ian, On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:42, Ian Moore wrote:

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 09:26, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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The label at the bottom right of the window is "HDA Intel".

So your system does have the inputs - perhaps it's a different chipset?

Well, the system incorporates an ICH8R. Does KMix give a different name on your system? As I said, I set the BIOS to enable legacy audio. According to the manual, that puts in in AC'97 mode. But now that I read the manual again, this pertains only to the "front panel" audio connectors, which I don't recall even hooking up when I assembled this sytem. I connected the rear panel audio (the one I described previously) to my KVM (which has audio switching, too). The BIOS display has these controls in a section labelled "Win627EHF Super IO Chipset". Perhaps that isn't the same as yours?

Cheers, Ian

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On Tuesday 02 January 2007 16:54, Ian Moore wrote:

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 11:12, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Ian,

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:42, Ian Moore wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 09:26, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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The label at the bottom right of the window is "HDA Intel".

So your system does have the inputs - perhaps it's a different chipset?

Well, the system incorporates an ICH8R. Does KMix give a different name on your system?

Mine shows up as a SigmaTel STAC9227

So it would seem that the audio is not part of the ICH8 chip itself, but rather a separate I/O chip. So the fact that you and I have different ones means there's probably little to be gained by comparing them. Sorry for the false alaram.

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The BIOS display has these controls in a section labelled "Win627EHF Super IO Chipset". Perhaps that isn't the same as yours?

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Cheers, Ian

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Ian Moore wrote:

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 09:26, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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On Tuesday 02 January 2007 14:35, Ian Moore wrote:

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I have a system with that chipset and there's a BIOS option to choose legacy vs. HD audio. I set it to legacy and the analog audio output work as expected. I haven't tried connecting a microphone to that system.

So does the microphone or Line In appear as a channel in the mixer on your laptop? What about a digital Line In?

This isn't a laptop, it's a desktop board. There are 6 analog jacks and both an optical and a coaxial SPDIF connectors.

In KMix's Input tab there are 5 input sliders shown:

- Front Mic Boost - Mic Boost - Capture - Capture - Capture

The Output tab bears 17 sliders, including two pairs of Mic sliders (Front and main, each with a boost and level control). There is a digital IEC958 output slider, a few line input sliders, a CD slider and so on.

The label at the bottom right of the window is "HDA Intel".

So your system does have the inputs - perhaps it's a different chipset?

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Frankly, I don't understand all this stuff since my audio needs are quite simple. Apart from the fact that I like to use optical cable between my computers and my stereo, I don't do anything fancy with audio. (I prefer the optical audio connection 'cause I'm in an old building that doesn't have three-prong plugs and I've discovered there's quite a large voltage differential between the outlets where my computers are plugged in and the one where the TV and stereo are plugged in. That may be because there are two phases present within my apartment--there's an electric stove. At least with optical cable I don't have to worry about those big sparks I used to see and the shocks I occasionally felt!!)

I've always found it rather amusing that US and European mains plugs either don't have any earth or it's removable - in Australia we only have 3 pin plugs and as far as I can tell, we always have had them.

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I saw a post about the BIOS setting when I was looking for a solution, but my BIOS has no such setting (and I updated to the latest BIOS yesterday)

Just a thought, but have you explored your BIOS settings thoroughly? I often find them confusingly organized and frequently have a hard time finding things I know are their 'cause I've used them before!

Well, I've been through every page of the settings, but I know what you mean ... I'll try again just in case.

Cheers, Ian

I have spent a lot of time now trying everything I can think of which includes compiling up the new ALSA and trying all the controls. However, I tried Skype using OSS which doesn't use ALSA and it doesn't work either. Nor does kdrecord. I have run out of ideas. I wish I knew if anyone is working on this issue. The same machine works fine with XP but doesn't on either SUSE or Kubuntu. I guess I will give up for now in hopes that 10.3 fixes it. Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ian wrote:

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 13:22, Robert Lewis wrote:

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Ian Moore wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 09:26, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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On Tuesday 02 January 2007 14:35, Ian Moore wrote:

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I have a system with that chipset and there's a BIOS option to choose legacy vs. HD audio. I set it to legacy and the analog audio output work as expected. I haven't tried connecting a microphone to that system.

So does the microphone or Line In appear as a channel in the mixer on your laptop? What about a digital Line In?

This isn't a laptop, it's a desktop board. There are 6 analog jacks and both an optical and a coaxial SPDIF connectors.

In KMix's Input tab there are 5 input sliders shown:

- Front Mic Boost - Mic Boost - Capture - Capture - Capture

The Output tab bears 17 sliders, including two pairs of Mic sliders (Front and main, each with a boost and level control). There is a digital IEC958 output slider, a few line input sliders, a CD slider and so on.

The label at the bottom right of the window is "HDA Intel".

So your system does have the inputs - perhaps it's a different chipset?

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Frankly, I don't understand all this stuff since my audio needs are quite simple. Apart from the fact that I like to use optical cable between my computers and my stereo, I don't do anything fancy with audio. (I prefer the optical audio connection 'cause I'm in an old building that doesn't have three-prong plugs and I've discovered there's quite a large voltage differential between the outlets where my computers are plugged in and the one where the TV and stereo are plugged in. That may be because there are two phases present within my apartment--there's an electric stove. At least with optical cable I don't have to worry about those big sparks I used to see and the shocks I occasionally felt!!)

I've always found it rather amusing that US and European mains plugs either don't have any earth or it's removable - in Australia we only have 3 pin plugs and as far as I can tell, we always have had them.

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I saw a post about the BIOS setting when I was looking for a solution, but my BIOS has no such setting (and I updated to the latest BIOS yesterday)

Just a thought, but have you explored your BIOS settings thoroughly? I often find them confusingly organized and frequently have a hard time finding things I know are their 'cause I've used them before!

Well, I've been through every page of the settings, but I know what you mean ... I'll try again just in case.

Cheers, Ian

I have spent a lot of time now trying everything I can think of which includes compiling up the new ALSA and trying all the controls. However, I tried Skype using OSS which doesn't use ALSA and it doesn't work either. Nor does kdrecord. I have run out of ideas. I wish I knew if anyone is working on this issue. The same machine works fine with XP but doesn't on either SUSE or Kubuntu. I guess I will give up for now in hopes that 10.3 fixes it.

Bob

Yeah, I think I give up too - I'll just take the Vibra16 out of my old machine & put it in my new one - it will probably have a lower noise floor than the on-board one anyway. I did find this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg18448.html which talks about the mb chipset I have (Intel 965) and he seems to be having the same kind of symptoms as I am, but it doesn't seem to be resolved. No doubt it will be in time...

All my systems with sound blaster cards are working. Unfortunatly on my laptop I don't have the frexability to change the card. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ian Moore wrote:

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 01:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Ian,

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 05:40, Ian Moore wrote:

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Hi, I've recently installed Suse10.2 on my new computer which has an Intel DP965LT motherboard. It has the ICH8 chipset and Suse detected & installed the Intel HD-Audio driver (snd_hda_intel) for the soundcard, which works fine for playback. However, only the Digital Line In is available as an input (I'm running KDE and both it's mixer and Audacity only show Line Out & Digital Line In).

I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about enabling the analogue inputs?

I have a system with that chipset and there's a BIOS option to choose legacy vs. HD audio. I set it to legacy and the analog audio output work as expected. I haven't tried connecting a microphone to that system.

So does the microphone or Line In appear as a channel in the mixer on your laptop? What about a digital Line In?

I saw a post about the BIOS setting when I was looking for a solution, but my BIOS has no such setting (and I updated to the latest BIOS yesterday)

Cheers, Ian

Kmix shows both a line in and a MIC choice. Really they are the same as only one input jack. However, alsamixer shows the microphone but no growbar or control for it. Card: HDA Intel Chip: Conexant CXT5047 I highly supect that ALSA has a bug at this point as it worked fine with 10.1. I am starting to get more serious about doing a bugreport on the ALSA site. Cheers, Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Ian Moore wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 01:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Ian,

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 05:40, Ian Moore wrote:

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Hi, I've recently installed Suse10.2 on my new computer which has an Intel DP965LT motherboard. It has the ICH8 chipset and Suse detected & installed the Intel HD-Audio driver (snd_hda_intel) for the soundcard, which works fine for playback. However, only the Digital Line In is available as an input (I'm running KDE and both it's mixer and Audacity only show Line Out & Digital Line In).

I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about enabling the analogue inputs?

I'm not sure what is the problem here. Do you have problems with the microphone? I'm not using a microphone, I wan tto use the Analogue Line In, butthe only input channel that appears in kmix and Audacity (running either in KDE or TWM) is the Digital1 input and I don't have any digital devices to use with it.

Does it work on your motherboard using 10.2? I am using 10.2 ! What does "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*" say? Lots :-) : Codec: SigmaTel STAC9227 Address: 2 Vendor Id: 0x83847618 Subsystem Id: 0x80862111 Revision Id: 0x100201 Default PCM: rates 0x7e0, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0e, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x7f, nsteps=0x7f, stepsize=0x02, mute=1 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0x6c 0x6c] Power: 0x0 Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0xff 0xff] Power: 0x0 Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0xff 0xff] Power: 0x0 Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0xff 0xff] Power: 0x0 Node 0x06 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xfd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: N/A Amp-Out vals: [0xff 0xff] Power: 0x0 Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x1b Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x1c Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x1d Node 0x0a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x08173f: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x0221421f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x00: Connection: 2 0x02* 0x03 Node 0x0b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x08173f: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x01a19023: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Connection: 2 0x02* 0x03 Node 0x0c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01813221: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Connection: 1 0x03 Node 0x0d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x08173f: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x01114210: [Jack] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x02 Node 0x0e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x40f0f0f0: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A Conn = Unknown, Color = Other Pin-ctls: 0x00: Connection: 1 0x04 Node 0x0f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x40f0f0f1: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A Conn = Unknown, Color = Other Pin-ctls: 0x00: Connection: 1 0x05 Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x0837: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x40f0f0f2: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A Conn = Unknown, Color = Other Pin-ctls: 0x00: Connection: 1 0x04 Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo Pincap 0x0837: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x40f0f0f3: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A Conn = Unknown, Color = Other Pin-ctls: 0x00: Connection: 1 0x03 Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x503301f0: [N/A] CD at Int N/A Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown Pin-ctls: 0x00: Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00001: Stereo Node 0x14 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00001: Stereo Node 0x15 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 9 0x0e* 0x12 0x0f 0x0b 0x0c 0x0d 0x0a 0x10 0x11 Node 0x16 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 9 0x0e* 0x12 0x0f 0x0b 0x0c 0x0d 0x0a 0x10 0x11 Node 0x17 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 9 0x0e* 0x12 0x0f 0x0b 0x0c 0x0d 0x0a 0x10 0x11 Node 0x18 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x15 Node 0x19 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x16 Node 0x1a [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: N/A Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x17 Node 0x1b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30090d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Connection: 1 0x18 Node 0x1c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30090d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Connection: 1 0x19 Node 0x1d [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30090d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Connection: 1 0x1a Node 0x1e [Audio Output] wcaps 0x40211: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x7e0, bits 0x0e, types 0x5 Node 0x1f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf30201: Stereo Digital Node 0x20 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x140311: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x160, bits 0x0e, types 0x5 Connection: 1 0x22 Node 0x21 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400301: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x01442170: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear Conn = RCA, Color = Grey Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 5 PCM: rates 0x7e0, bits 0x0e, types 0x5 Node 0x1f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf30201: Stereo Digital Node 0x20 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x140311: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x160, bits 0x0e, types 0x5 Connection: 1 0x22 Node 0x21 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400301: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x01442170: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear Conn = RCA, Color = Grey Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 5 0x1e* 0x1f 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d Node 0x22 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x430681: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x0810024: IN EAPD Detect Pin Default 0x81c42090: [Fixed] SPDIF In at Ext Rear Conn = RCA, Color = Grey Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Power: 0x0 Node 0x23 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x03, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x17, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00] Node 0x24 [Volume Knob Widget] wcaps 0x600000: Mono

So that evidently recognises that there are analogue inputs, but the driver doesn't make them available I guess.

There are issues with snd_hda_intel and alsa, some chipsets are troublesome. Read here: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2038 http://tinyurl.com/y3xby4

Basically you can get lucky playing with the codecs listed in /usr/src/linux-2.6.18.2-34/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt I've got microphone working on Ubuntu after adding "options snd_hda_intel model=ref" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and rebooting. On Suse I guess it should go in /etc/modprobe.d/sound Hope this helps

Thanks, I'll have a read of those links and a play and let you know what happens! Cheers, ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org