Hi everybody I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?) As I am relatively new to Linux up to now I just backup the data-files I am actually working with, saving them to another HD or to CD's by copying (most of them are compressed photo files, so gz etc. doesn't make much sense in that case). But I have absolutely no backup of settings, system parts or what ever might be necessary when e.g. my system-disc crashes. I don't even have an idea _what_ would be of use to back-up, how and what to keep up-to-date, and: how to re-use it in the bad case... Maybe this is interesting not only to me, but If you consider it just another silly newbie question already asked more than you can stand, I am sorry, but then would very much appreciate to be directed to suitable links anyway... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:15 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
As I am relatively new to Linux up to now I just backup the data-files I am actually working with, saving them to another HD or to CD's by copying (most of them are compressed photo files, so gz etc. doesn't make much sense in that case).
But I have absolutely no backup of settings, system parts or what ever might be necessary when e.g. my system-disc crashes. I don't even have an idea _what_ would be of use to back-up, how and what to keep up-to-date, and: how to re-use it in the bad case...
Maybe this is interesting not only to me, but If you consider it just another silly newbie question already asked more than you can stand, I am sorry, but then would very much appreciate to be directed to suitable links anyway...
The only silly/stupid question is the one that is not asked. Look into using mondoarchive. It is included on the distribution CD/DVD and works with many media types, CD, DVD, tape, disk... If you want to by a commercial product look at BackUpEdge from Microlite. There is a 60 day demo available and it does have very good disaster recovery. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:15 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
Me, I back up anything that I can't either download or get off of a CD, that includes documents and stuff like that, I personally use a CD, or a personal locker site.
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 @ 9:15 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
As I am relatively new to Linux up to now I just backup the data-files I am
actually working with, saving them to another HD or to CD's by copying (most of them are compressed photo files, so gz etc. doesn't make much sense in that case).
But I have absolutely no backup of settings, system parts or what ever might be necessary when e.g. my system-disc crashes. I don't even have an idea _what_ would be of use to back-up, how and what to keep up-to-date, and: how to re-use it in the bad case...
Maybe this is interesting not only to me, but If you consider it just another silly newbie question already asked more than you can stand, I am sorry, but then would very much appreciate to be directed to suitable links anyway...
Daniel
Here's what I use. http://www.storix.com/solutions/ I use the "Desktop" version. I've done a complete restore of my system with this and it works great. Greg Wallace
Hi Daniel,
Hard drives are CHEAP. I say rsync, rsync, rsync. It is a great program
that has simplified my computer life by a huge amount:
http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/samba-setup-guide....
While this doesn't help you if your house burns down, if something is THAT
important you should probably have printed it and/or burned it and put it in
a firesafe. Otherwise, rsync with the -av options only replaces newer files
without deleting any. It is not a versioning system.
cheers,
--
http://kimbriggs.com
On 3/21/06, Daniel Bauer
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
As I am relatively new to Linux up to now I just backup the data-files I am actually working with, saving them to another HD or to CD's by copying (most of them are compressed photo files, so gz etc. doesn't make much sense in that case).
But I have absolutely no backup of settings, system parts or what ever might be necessary when e.g. my system-disc crashes. I don't even have an idea _what_ would be of use to back-up, how and what to keep up-to-date, and: how to re-use it in the bad case...
Maybe this is interesting not only to me, but If you consider it just another silly newbie question already asked more than you can stand, I am sorry, but then would very much appreciate to be directed to suitable links anyway...
Daniel
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com
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On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:15 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
As I am relatively new to Linux up to now I just backup the data-files I am actually working with, saving them to another HD or to CD's by copying (most of them are compressed photo files, so gz etc. doesn't make much sense in that case).
But I have absolutely no backup of settings, system parts or what ever might be necessary when e.g. my system-disc crashes. I don't even have an idea _what_ would be of use to back-up, how and what to keep up-to-date, and: how to re-use it in the bad case...
Maybe this is interesting not only to me, but If you consider it just another silly newbie question already asked more than you can stand, I am sorry, but then would very much appreciate to be directed to suitable links anyway...
Daniel
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com
I back up /home, /pub, and /srv, on the theory that I will have to reinstall everything else. I use rdiff-backup nightly. rdiff-backup alllows for backup of virtually any combination of files and directories, will backup over a network (using ssh for security), and allows for restoral of any set of files at any given time in the past. Donald D. Henson, Managing Director West El Paso Information Network The "Non-Initiation of Force Principle" Rules
Donald D Henson wrote:
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:15 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
I back up /home, /pub, and /srv, on the theory that I will have to reinstall everything else. I use rdiff-backup nightly. rdiff-backup alllows for backup of virtually any combination of files and directories, will backup over a network (using ssh for security), and allows for restoral of any set of files at any given time in the past.
Are you sure that it is not necessary to backup /etc? You will lose all accounts, passwords and settings of services that way if the hdd is unrecoverable. Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 17:34 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Donald D Henson wrote:
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:15 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
I back up /home, /pub, and /srv, on the theory that I will have to reinstall everything else. I use rdiff-backup nightly. rdiff-backup alllows for backup of virtually any combination of files and directories, will backup over a network (using ssh for security), and allows for restoral of any set of files at any given time in the past.
Are you sure that it is not necessary to backup /etc? You will lose all accounts, passwords and settings of services that way if the hdd is unrecoverable.
Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com
Oops. Left that one out. Thanks for letting me know. Donald D. Henson, Managing Director West El Paso Information Network The "Non-Initiation of Force Principle" Rules
Donald D Henson wrote:
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:15 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hi everybody
I'd like to know how you manage your backing-up: - what do you back-up - and how? (on what media, using what programs, how do you keep track?)
As I am relatively new to Linux up to now I just backup the data-files I am actually working with, saving them to another HD or to CD's by copying (most of them are compressed photo files, so gz etc. doesn't make much sense in that case).
But I have absolutely no backup of settings, system parts or what ever might be necessary when e.g. my system-disc crashes. I don't even have an idea _what_ would be of use to back-up, how and what to keep up-to-date, and: how to re-use it in the bad case...
Maybe this is interesting not only to me, but If you consider it just another silly newbie question already asked more than you can stand, I am sorry, but then would very much appreciate to be directed to suitable links anyway...
Daniel
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com
I back up /home, /pub, and /srv, on the theory that I will have to reinstall everything else. I use rdiff-backup nightly. rdiff-backup alllows for backup of virtually any combination of files and directories, will backup over a network (using ssh for security), and allows for restoral of any set of files at any given time in the past.
/etc was named already. Furthermore: for i in sadm spool yp \ lib/named lib/mailman lib/mysql lib/pgsql lib/samba do # backup /var/$i (There might be more /var directories of interest for you. These are just the services that I am using.) If you have a database that is not too large (i.e., only a few GBs), think about dumping it nightly. That's much safer than just copying the database files. If you have several systems, consider collecting status messages of the backup jobs at one place (e.g., using NFS) and have another job that checks that status messages daily. If you use Nagios, integrate that other job as a plugin into Nagios. (That's what I'm doing.) If you got a business, or if you've got important private data on your system, make a disaster recovery plan. Part of that plan is to get crucial data out of your home or your company. Safe remote data backup on the cheap is possible: Get a cheap Linux (virtual) server from some hoster, mine costs EUR 10 per month. Export a file system via NFS to you. (Pay attention to proper firewall rules.) Mount a file from that file system via loopback and crypto fs on your local system. rsync to that file system. The whole encryption will happen on your local system, your data will be confidential at the hosting system. Note: If your business is big enough, this is not a good idea. Buy a DR service. Cheers, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany
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