[opensuse] Screen Resolution
Hi, I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box. The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results. I have been using a different screen resolution to get the fonts to display in a readable manner (1280x720 or 1024x768), but I think even this could be improved upon if the problem was resolved to display the fonts sharply at the correct resolution. Anybody have any idea what might be the problem and how to fix it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/02/11 09:09 (GMT-0500) Mark Misulich composed:
I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
I have been using a different screen resolution to get the fonts to display in a readable manner (1280x720 or 1024x768), but I think even this could be improved upon if the problem was resolved to display the fonts sharply at the correct resolution.
Anybody have any idea what might be the problem and how to fix it?
There is a multitude of definitions of "displaying fonts poorly". Which applies to you? If you upload a screenshot somewhere we can see what you mean by "displaying fonts poorly". Is your complaint as much or more a problem of size than quality? -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
I have been using a different screen resolution to get the fonts to display in a readable manner (1280x720 or 1024x768), but I think even this could be improved upon if the problem was resolved to display the fonts sharply at the correct resolution.
Anybody have any idea what might be the problem and how to fix it?
Okay, I think that I better try this a different way. Does anyone know which file the Nvidia driver stores the default screen resolution so that I can change and store the resolution? Then I can set the default to the size that works better and not have to configure it each time that I start the computer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2010 01:11 PM, Mark Misulich pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
I have been using a different screen resolution to get the fonts to display in a readable manner (1280x720 or 1024x768), but I think even this could be improved upon if the problem was resolved to display the fonts sharply at the correct resolution.
Anybody have any idea what might be the problem and how to fix it?
Okay, I think that I better try this a different way.
Does anyone know which file the Nvidia driver stores the default screen resolution so that I can change and store the resolution? Then I can set the default to the size that works better and not have to configure it each time that I start the computer.
Have you tried to use the nVidia Settings tool. It is found in the menu under System-->Configuration. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> wrote:
On 02/15/2010 01:11 PM, Mark Misulich pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
I have been using a different screen resolution to get the fonts to display in a readable manner (1280x720 or 1024x768), but I think even this could be improved upon if the problem was resolved to display the fonts sharply at the correct resolution.
Anybody have any idea what might be the problem and how to fix it?
Okay, I think that I better try this a different way.
Does anyone know which file the Nvidia driver stores the default screen resolution so that I can change and store the resolution? Then I can set the default to the size that works better and not have to configure it each time that I start the computer.
Have you tried to use the nVidia Settings tool. It is found in the menu under System-->Configuration.
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, yes I use that to reset the screen resolution. It is supposed to save it to the X configuration file after I apply a particular screen resolution. But it doesn't do it. On each subsequent startup it autodetects the screen resolution and sets it to the screen's native resolution. I have poked around in the /etc/x.---- files trying to find where the default screen resolution is saved so I can change it to what I want, but without success. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/02/15 20:10 (GMT) Mark Misulich composed:
Ken Schneider composed:
Have you tried to use the nVidia Settings tool. It is found in the menu under System-->Configuration.
yes I use that to reset the screen resolution. It is supposed to save it to the X configuration file after I apply a particular screen resolution. But it doesn't do it. On each subsequent startup it autodetects the screen resolution and sets it to the screen's native resolution. I have poked around in the /etc/x.---- files trying to find where the default screen resolution is saved so I can change it to what I want, but without success.
Preferred settings for X have traditionally been specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This file may not exist in 11.2, but will be used if created. One way to create the file is to use sax2 from runlevel 3, but 'X -configure' or manually with your favorite $EDITOR will do it too. In 'Section "Monitor"' 'Option "PreferredMode" "1366x768"' or whatever your actual preferred mode is should be obeyed by X if supported by the display and gfx hardware. Whether it will be obeyed by proprietary drivers I can't say, as I only ever use open source drivers regardless of gfxchip I'm using. -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 2010/02/15 20:10 (GMT) Mark Misulich composed:
Ken Schneider composed:
Have you tried to use the nVidia Settings tool. It is found in the menu under System-->Configuration.
yes I use that to reset the screen resolution. It is supposed to save it to the X configuration file after I apply a particular screen resolution. But it doesn't do it. On each subsequent startup it autodetects the screen resolution and sets it to the screen's native resolution. I have poked around in the /etc/x.---- files trying to find where the default screen resolution is saved so I can change it to what I want, but without success.
Preferred settings for X have traditionally been specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This file may not exist in 11.2, but will be used if created. One way to create the file is to use sax2 from runlevel 3, but 'X -configure' or manually with your favorite $EDITOR will do it too. In 'Section "Monitor"' 'Option "PreferredMode" "1366x768"' or whatever your actual preferred mode is should be obeyed by X if supported by the display and gfx hardware. Whether it will be obeyed by proprietary drivers I can't say, as I only ever use open source drivers regardless of gfxchip I'm using. -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US President
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409
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Hi, I installed a different operating system on this computer as well as the two opensuse (11.1 & 11.2), and in their file system it uses /etc/X11/xorg.nvidia or something similar. I tried to modify that file but was never successful in getting it to boot into a different resolution other than native. I have tried to find the same file for nvidia in opensuse, but haven't been able to find it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/02/15 18:11 (GMT) Mark Misulich composed:
I can set the default to the size that works better
Unless your vision is quite bad, any time you experience better quality using a non-native resolution than when using native, something is very broken. Native needs to be debugged and either fixed or reported as a bug if fixing appears to be impossible. -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
If you have a flat display, use the display native resolution. Always. Anything else is an imitation, will render badly.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
Is that a font rendering problem, or any type of line drawing displays bad? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkt559UACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Vd7ACgjD6XjAeGOvav0NZ8nmQyh6dX YcIAnjRflLaiplGtcaOyzq1b7lOYFheM =Lzcm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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On Thursday, 2010-02-11 at 09:09 -0500, Mark Misulich wrote:
I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
If you have a flat display, use the display native resolution. Always. Anything else is an imitation, will render badly.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
Is that a font rendering problem, or any type of line drawing displays bad?
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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Hi, the problem is most noticeable with fonts. They appear all chopped up and difficult to read. I will send a screenshot next Tuesday evening. I had to start a business trip two days early because of a snowstorm, so I had to drop everything at home and scramble to catch a flight out before the snow hit. Otherwise I would have waited till my return to continue this thread. I have both 11.2 and 11.1 loaded on the computer and installed the current nvidia driver on both via opensuse-community one click install. The 11.2 picked up the screen resolution as "auto" and is 1360x768, if I remember right. That is the native resolution of the screen. 11.1 picked up the screen resolution as 1024x768, and it keeps coming up that way when it reboots. The fonts are choppy in 11.2 and pretty readable in 11.1. I have tried this with two different model video cards, both with the same nvidia driver, and get the same results. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 16/02/10 14:33, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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On Thursday, 2010-02-11 at 09:09 -0500, Mark Misulich wrote:
I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
If you have a flat display, use the display native resolution. Always. Anything else is an imitation, will render badly.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
Is that a font rendering problem, or any type of line drawing displays bad?
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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Hi, the problem is most noticeable with fonts. They appear all chopped up and difficult to read.
I will add my 2c-worth - and I did not read your opening post so maybe you already answered by following questions.comments: 1) which system are you using, 32-or 64-bit? 2) have you tried using the nVidia provided driver and not the one from openSUSE? 3) some fonts are not suitable for computer use but will look OK when printed; which sets of fonts are you using, and have you installed the MS set of fonts or the DeJaVu set of fonts? 4) have you set anti-aliasing in Kickoff/General/Look and Appearance/Fonts/Use anti-aliasing?; and 5) which flat screen monitor are you using and using it with DVI or analogue connection? (Lastly, always use the monitor's native resolution for max. performance.) BC -- The calendar's days are numbered! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On 16/02/10 14:33, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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On Thursday, 2010-02-11 at 09:09 -0500, Mark Misulich wrote:
I am running opensuse 11.2 and kde 4.4 on this computer. I have a problem with the screen displaying fonts poorly. The screen is a 1366x768 resolution, and I have a recent Nvidia video card in the box.
If you have a flat display, use the display native resolution. Always. Anything else is an imitation, will render badly.
The fonts display okay at that resolution until I install the Nvidia driver for the video card. They display okay with whatever the video driver is that is used by Opensuse 11.2 in a new installation. I have tried a couple of different video cards and get the same results.
Is that a font rendering problem, or any type of line drawing displays bad?
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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Hi, the problem is most noticeable with fonts. They appear all chopped up and difficult to read.
I will add my 2c-worth - and I did not read your opening post so maybe you already answered by following questions.comments:
1) which system are you using, 32-or 64-bit?
64bit for all installed systems except 32 bit win xp. I have opensuse 11.1, 11.2, win xp, elivecd installed presently. They all have the same problem using the nvidia driver, and render fonts well without it. I have had some other linux systems installed, but they also had the same problem.
2) have you tried using the nVidia provided driver and not the one from openSUSE?
Yup, using the nvidia driver from Opensuse-community one click install
3) some fonts are not suitable for computer use but will look OK when printed; which sets of fonts are you using, and have you installed the MS set of fonts or the DeJaVu set of fonts?
Don't know, how do I check which one I am using? I just use what comes with the operating system.
4) have you set anti-aliasing in Kickoff/General/Look and Appearance/Fonts/Use anti-aliasing?; and
Nope. I did install fonts using the one click "font with sub-pixel hinting" install from opensuse-community, but the other systems don't have that, of course.
5) which flat screen monitor are you using and using it with DVI or analogue connection?
I think it is an emachines screen, don't know the model number from memory. I will have to look it up and post it next week when I get back home from this trip. I think that it is an analog hookup.
(Lastly, always use the monitor's native resolution for max. performance.)
BC
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