[opensuse] Time Change work for everyone? (In U.S.)
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this? -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 06:44, Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
No problem on either my 10.0 or my 10.3 systems. I'm in the PST/PDT timezone.
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On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 06:54 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 06:44, Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
No problem on either my 10.0 or my 10.3 systems. I'm in the PST/PDT timezone.
10.3 CDT here. Guess my computer just wanted one extra hour to sleep in. Was the first time in over a week that it got turned off for the night, so it probably was pretty pissed at me for waking it up early on a Sunday. :-) -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:04:04 am Bryen wrote:
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 06:54 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 06:44, Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
No problem on either my 10.0 or my 10.3 systems. I'm in the PST/PDT timezone.
10.3 CDT here. Guess my computer just wanted one extra hour to sleep in. Was the first time in over a week that it got turned off for the night, so it probably was pretty pissed at me for waking it up early on a Sunday. :-)
-- ---Bryen---
My time is never right anyways lol.. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:43, Ben Kevan wrote:
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My time is never right anyways lol..
Use NTP. It's easy to configure (YaST has a module just for NTP configuration) and (on 10.3, at the very least), there's a pre-programmed set of public NTP servers you can enable. (I use my ISP's NTP server to get the lowest latency between me and the time server.)
Ben
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On Sunday 04 November 2007 08:01, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:43, Ben Kevan wrote:
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My time is never right anyways lol..
Use NTP. It's easy to configure (YaST has a module just for NTP configuration) and (on 10.3, at the very least), there's a pre-programmed set of public NTP servers you can enable. (I use my ISP's NTP server to get the lowest latency between me and the time server.)
The nice thing is (and I show it to my Wintendo-using minions) you can alwasy launch the command and get an update if needed. This should probably be updated: http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/33 Here's teh command line... kai@jabba:~> su Password: jabba:/home/kai # /etc/init.d/ntp start Starting network time protocol daemon (NTPD) done -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:01 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:43, Ben Kevan wrote:
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My time is never right anyways lol..
Use NTP. It's easy to configure (YaST has a module just for NTP configuration) and (on 10.3, at the very least), there's a pre-programmed set of public NTP servers you can enable. (I use my ISP's NTP server to get the lowest latency between me and the time server.)
I do use NTP and have the NTP daemon running constantly. But NTP doesn't contain tzinfo/zones. NTP sets the minutes and seconds. The Hours part of time is set by the tzinfo contained in your computer. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-11-04 at 11:07 -0600, Bryen wrote:
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:01 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Use NTP. It's easy to configure (YaST has a module just for NTP configuration) and (on 10.3, at the very least), there's a pre-programmed set of public NTP servers you can enable. (I use my ISP's NTP server to get the lowest latency between me and the time server.)
I do use NTP and have the NTP daemon running constantly. But NTP doesn't contain tzinfo/zones.
Yes.
NTP sets the minutes and seconds. The Hours part of time is set by the tzinfo contained in your computer.
No! NTP sets everything. But remember that it sets up the internal unix time, which is related to UTC time, wich does not have summer/winter shifts. It doesn't touch the timezone data. It's up to the operating system to convert that internal clock to the displayed time. Questions: your bios keeps UTC or local time? And, did you double boot to windows? Both those things could cause your problem. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHLgSJtTMYHG2NR9URAnjwAJ9xWaayEPsuMIRkLSNOab8eF9ZpWACgj+sf 09GS9g8Funy92Y0BMSryfTI= =JfQc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 18:42 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
NTP sets the minutes and seconds. The Hours part of time is set by the tzinfo contained in your computer.
No! NTP sets everything. But remember that it sets up the internal unix time, which is related to UTC time, wich does not have summer/winter shifts. It doesn't touch the timezone data. It's up to the operating system to convert that internal clock to the displayed time.
True. I guess I oversimplified that explanation... :-)
Questions: your bios keeps UTC or local time? And, did you double boot to windows? Both those things could cause your problem.
The only Windows I own are for viewing streetlife outside my house. There are NO Windows software in my house, and thus, no dual booting. :-)
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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On Sunday 04 November 2007 09:07, Bryen wrote:
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:01 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:43, Ben Kevan wrote:
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My time is never right anyways lol..
Use NTP. It's easy to configure (YaST has a module just for NTP configuration) and (on 10.3, at the very least), there's a pre-programmed set of public NTP servers you can enable. (I use my ISP's NTP server to get the lowest latency between me and the time server.)
I do use NTP and have the NTP daemon running constantly. But NTP doesn't contain tzinfo/zones. NTP sets the minutes and seconds. The Hours part of time is set by the tzinfo contained in your computer.
NTP sets _the time_ (relativity notwithstanding). How it's displayed is another matter. Time zones and daylight savings time (including fractional hours) are part of how the date and time are displayed. So why is your time "never right?"
---Bryen---
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On Sunday 04 November 2007 08:01:00 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:43, Ben Kevan wrote:
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My time is never right anyways lol..
Use NTP. It's easy to configure (YaST has a module just for NTP configuration) and (on 10.3, at the very least), there's a pre-programmed set of public NTP servers you can enable. (I use my ISP's NTP server to get the lowest latency between me and the time server.)
Ben
Randall Schulz
Yeah, I hate having to run NTP when the time should just "be right" .. I must say.. Sometimes it is, but sometimes I get: Setting up the hardware clockselect() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out When booting and trying to set hardware clock.. Not a big deal to me since I use the crack berry to remind me of meetings etc for work. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 09:04:04 am Bryen wrote:
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 06:54 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 06:44, Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
No problem on either my 10.0 or my 10.3 systems. I'm in the PST/PDT timezone.
10.3 CDT here. Guess my computer just wanted one extra hour to sleep in. Was the first time in over a week that it got turned off for the night, so it probably was pretty pissed at me for waking it up early on a Sunday. :-)
-- ---Bryen---
Sure. Computers nowadays have often mind of it's own :-D -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun November 4 2007 09:44:52 am Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
No problems here... 32-bit 10.2 x86 Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 15:58, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sun November 4 2007 09:44:52 am Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
Of course growing up in Arkansas everyone saw the time change as a Commie plot to cause everyone to miss church twice a year! -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 08:27, James Hatridge wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 15:58, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sun November 4 2007 09:44:52 am Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
Of course growing up in Arkansas everyone saw the time change as a Commie plot to cause everyone to miss church twice a year!
Twice? Wouldn't you just be an hour early in the fall? Surely for the devout, an extra hour in church would just be seen as a gift, right?
-- Jim Hatridge
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On Sunday 04 November 2007 17:38, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 08:27, James Hatridge wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2007 15:58, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sun November 4 2007 09:44:52 am Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
Of course growing up in Arkansas everyone saw the time change as a Commie plot to cause everyone to miss church twice a year!
Twice? Wouldn't you just be an hour early in the fall? Surely for the devout, an extra hour in church would just be seen as a gift, right?
I see that you never served time in an Arkansas church! -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
No, I leave mine all on all the time and when I got up this morning, it showed the correct time. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
-- ---Bryen--- Time changed OK with my 10.2 and 10.3 systems. Did you install the patches for
On Sunday November 4 2007 06:44, Bryen wrote: the time change. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
I actually just had the wonderful experience of realizing I could have slept for an hour longer and still not missed the start of the Bronco's game. Mine worked fine, 10.3 x86_64 in the Mountain timezone. --Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jason Craig wrote:
Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
I actually just had the wonderful experience of realizing I could have slept for an hour longer and still not missed the start of the Bronco's game.
Don't worry, you can always get that extra sleep during the game. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 November 2007 10:01:56 am James Knott wrote:
Jason Craig wrote:
Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
I actually just had the wonderful experience of realizing I could have slept for an hour longer and still not missed the start of the Bronco's game.
Don't worry, you can always get that extra sleep during the game. ;-)
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He's watching Football not Baseball :o) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:01 -0500, James Knott wrote:
Jason Craig wrote:
Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
I actually just had the wonderful experience of realizing I could have slept for an hour longer and still not missed the start of the Bronco's game.
Don't worry, you can always get that extra sleep during the game. ;-)
Broncos are not the Cowboys. And this Sunday they play the Redskins. Good day for smash mouth. Expect a few penalties for unnecessary roughness. ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:44 -0600, Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
-- ---Bryen---
Worked for me. I was up when it went from 1:59 am to 1:00 am.
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Kevin Dupuy
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On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:44 -0600, Bryen wrote:
Just flipped on my computer and time fell back 2 hours instead of one hour. Anyone else experience this?
-- ---Bryen---
Worked for me. I was up when it went from 1:59 am to 1:00 am.
And also when it did it again an hour later and also when... ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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