[opensuse] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats listing size making it awkward to read
From the opensuse.org mailing list thread:
[opensuse] How to turn OFF new html-ized directory listings at http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/ and [opensuse] download.opensuse.org html listing format - get rid of horizontal lines... (please see both threads for user comments) Original post: All, Just going through source listings at http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/ there is some kind of new "Pretty Print" html-ized format being used that underlines the entire row containing the srpm instead of the normal raw directory listing that only underlines the package. This (1) doubles the height of the listing you have to scroll and (2) makes scanning the listing awkward. Is there some way, or switch, that will revert to the simple listing? Follow Up Consensus: Most mirrors have historically provided much faster listing loads, some 30X or more because of the HTML tables doo was using. Large tables are inefficient HTML code to display, besides being much larger in bytes than typical mirror listing content. e.g. http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/source/distribution/leap/15.2/repo/oss/src/ saves as 1,827,714 bytes http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/15.2/repo/oss/src/ saves as 5,213,482, or 285% of gwdg listing size. bug report: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/62255 Looks like the new styles may be an attempt to incorporate improved efficiency, and the added margins and/or padding amounts to a regression. Previous list thread: https://lists.opensuse.org/heroes/2020-01/msg00023.html Next Comment in Thread Ouch! The D.O.O page is horrible. I don't see anything underlined, what I see is a double-spaced music paper background (i.e. alternate backgrounds coloured). There's also a massive gap between the rpm name and the last modified date and at some browser widths the last column shows 'Deta' instead of 'Details'. In very narrow widths it just shows the filename and a lot of space to the right. In all widths it keeps wide empty margins that are completely unnecessary for a directory listing. There's a strange icon at the top right, with four small squares arranged in a square (looks like a cooker hob). I've no idea what that means and there's no tooltip. At narrow browser widths there's another icon next to it with three horizontal lines. I might expect that to be a menu but again there's no tooltip and nothing happens when I click on either of them. (Note that I have script disabled and I'm using FF). If I click on a 'Details' link, I'm taken to a page listing mirrors. If I click on 'Map showing the closest mirrors' I'm shown: 'The Google Maps Platform server rejected your request. You must use an API key to authenticate each request to Google Maps Platform APIs. For additional information, please refer to http://g.co/dev/maps-no-account'. In short it's a disaster at many levels. It's a design disaster and a functional disaster. The simple listing from GWDG is far better IMHO. ================ Request Can we remove this HTML/CSS-ized addition to the download mirrors. It is bloating the download listing by 5X and causing the display of the listing to grow in scrolling height by 3X -- no good. Just give us the plain text listings back with links. ================ Additional posts on opensuse@o.o Since someone changed the basic listing format from download.opensuse.org/repositories to some unwanted html format, the biggest problem is the damn horizontal lines drawn between every directory and they are drawn in a bright-white over a dark background -- it's like looking into a floodlight trying to pick out details behind it. Take a look at: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/ Where I see: https://paste.opensuse.org/61684564 It is enough to drive you blind. Can we at least remove the horizontal lines? I could live with cyan folder names on a dark background if there wasn't a bright white line in between every folder. Personally, I'd prefer the raw folder listing that reduces the bandwidth by 500%, but I understand it's hard to gore somebody's new ox. The package listing is even worse. Try and pick out i3-gaps... quickly: https://paste.opensuse.org/40948260 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/9/20 12:41 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
From the opensuse.org mailing list thread:
[opensuse] How to turn OFF new html-ized directory listings at http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/ and [opensuse] download.opensuse.org html listing format - get rid of horizontal lines...
(please see both threads for user comments)
<snip> Ticket is: [openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats listing size making it awkward to read -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin composed on 2020-08-09 17:35 (UTC-0500):
Ticket is:
[openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats listing size making it awkward to read
Please let us know when it's accessible: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736 You are not authorized to access this page. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/9/20 6:11 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
David C. Rankin composed on 2020-08-09 17:35 (UTC-0500):
Ticket is:
[openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats listing size making it awkward to read
Please let us know when it's accessible: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736 You are not authorized to access this page.
Will do, Though I don't have anything to do with the access part. I copied the link from the e-mail I got. I'll check if there is anything I can do -- it wasn't security related, so why there are access limitations is a bit bewildering. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
David C. Rankin composed on 2020-08-09 17:35 (UTC-0500):
Ticket is:
[openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats [listing size making it awkward to read
Please let us know when it's accessible: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736
I've made it public now. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (23.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:00:31 +0200 Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
David C. Rankin composed on 2020-08-09 17:35 (UTC-0500):
Ticket is:
[openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats [listing size making it awkward to read
Please let us know when it's accessible: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736
I've made it public now.
Thanks. Per. Now we can all see it was rejected for having been posted in the wrong place :( Looks like David has more typing to do. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 5:35 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Thanks. Per.
Now we can all see it was rejected for having been posted in the wrong place :( Looks like David has more typing to do.
I don't play those games, The report was made per the recommended process from this list. They have the report. Surely, someone there is smart enough to forward to the appropriate place if admin@o.o isn't the right place. I've never known SuSE/openSUSE to be that incompetent. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 2:00 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
David C. Rankin composed on 2020-08-09 17:35 (UTC-0500):
Ticket is: [openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats [listing size making it awkward to read Please let us know when it's accessible: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736 I've made it public now.
Per, Will you check this ticket. The stupid Mlmmj program bot seems to have closed the ticket after you delete opensuse@o.o to stop it from looping for the reason: Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the <opensuse@opensuse.org> mailing list. The message from <admin@opensuse.org> with subject "[openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats listing size making it awkward to read" was unable to be delivered to the list because the list address was not found in either the To: or CC: header. tickets #69736: New HTML-ized mirror listing bloats listing size making it awkward to read https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736#change-317752 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
On 8/10/20 2:00 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
David C. Rankin composed on 2020-08-09 17:35 (UTC-0500):
Ticket is: [openSUSE admin - tickets #69736] New HTML-ized mirror listing [bloats listing size making it awkward to read Please let us know when it's accessible: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69736 I've made it public now.
Per,
Will you check this ticket. The stupid Mlmmj program bot seems to have closed the ticket after you delete opensuse@o.o to stop it from looping for the reason:
I replied off-line to David, didn't notice he had posted to the list too. mlmmj and redmine (progress.o.o) got into a loop because redmine isn't subscribed. That caused some 150 entries to be added before I was able to stop it. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (22.3°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Dave Howorth
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David C. Rankin
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Felix Miata
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Per Jessen