[opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?
I guess I was in this list 10 years ago when it started. Unfortunately although I used Linux more than a decade it still eludes me mainly because I hate computers in general. The question that lingers in my mind is: why does Linux still have the same bugs that existed years ago coming back again and again? One problem I have at boot: ****************************************************** * Warning: The dma on your hard drive is turned off. * * This may really slow down the fsck process. * ****************************************************** I put PIIX module in initrd, compiled custom kernel, googled all around to no avail. Also changed PIIX=y in .config file. hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works a minute and dma changes to (0) by itself. 2nd problem: Everything seems fine with my Hauppauge WinTV 350 board but TV never works. ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ==================== ivtv: version 0.8.0 (tagged release) loading ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.18.2-34-default SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1 ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist. ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350 card (cx23415 based) ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes) ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw firmware (262144 bytes) tuner 0-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0) tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0) saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0) saa7127 0-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0) msp3400 0-0040: MSP4448G-A2 found @ 0x80 (ivtv i2c driver #0) ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032 ivtv0: Decoder revision: 0x02020023 ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio ivtv0: Registered device video16 for decoder MPEG ivtv0: Registered device vbi8 for decoder VBI ivtv0: Registered device vbi16 for decoder VOUT ivtv0: Registered device video48 for decoder YUV ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg firmware (155648 bytes) ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card #0 ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ==================== lsmod | grep ivtv: ivtv 175248 0 firmware_class 14080 1 ivtv cx2341x 15108 1 ivtv tveeprom 18448 1 ivtv videodev 26880 1 ivtv v4l1_compat 16388 2 ivtv,videodev v4l2_common 26240 6 msp3400,saa7115,tuner,ivtv,cx2341x,videodev i2c_algo_bit 12808 2 ivtv,i2c_i810 i2c_core 25216 7 msp3400,saa7127,saa7115,tuner,ivtv,tveeprom,i2c_algo_bit degan:# xawtv /dev/video This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.18.2-34) /dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway no way to get: 384x288 32 bit TrueColor (LE: bgr-) no way to get: 384x288 32 bit TrueColor (LE: bgr-) degan:# v4l-conf v4l-conf: using X11 display :0.0 dga: version 2.0 mode: 1024x768, depth=24, bpp=32, bpl=4096, base=0x48000000 /dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support I tried to open any TV application but can't open /dev/video. however, ls -l /dev/vi* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video -> video0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 16 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video16 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 24 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video24 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 32 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video32 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 48 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video48 and several other problems with a dualboot system that works 100% under Windows XP. System is slow and I can't watch TV so what is the use? Any clues? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 18 March 2007 06:35:28 pm Yas say wrote:
I guess I was in this list 10 years ago when it started. Unfortunately although I used Linux more than a decade it still eludes me mainly because I hate computers in general.
The question that lingers in my mind is: why does Linux still have the same bugs that existed years ago coming back again and again?
One problem I have at boot: ****************************************************** * Warning: The dma on your hard drive is turned off. * * This may really slow down the fsck process. * ****************************************************** I put PIIX module in initrd, compiled custom kernel, googled all around to no avail. Also changed PIIX=y in .config file. hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works a minute and dma changes to (0) by itself.
I have no clue what the above means, but for your DMA issue, simply turn it on. Geeko > Control Center (YaST) > Hardware > IDE DMA Mode You can enable/disable DMA or set the various options for any given IDE device you have. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18 Mar 2007, baladeh@yahoo.com wrote:
I put PIIX module in initrd, compiled custom kernel, googled all around to no avail. Also changed PIIX=y in .config file. hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works a minute and dma changes to (0) by itself.
See /etc/sysconfig/ide
degan:# xawtv /dev/video
No, xawtv is not for Haupauge WinTV cards. Just open /dev/video0 with any video player, ie: mplayer /dev/video0 I suggest you install MythTV to get the full benefits of the card. Charles -- printk(KERN_WARNING MYNAM ": (bad VooDoo)\n"); linux-2.6.6/drivers/message/fusion/mptctl.c
Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 18 Mar 2007, baladeh@yahoo.com wrote:
I put PIIX module in initrd, compiled custom kernel, googled all around to no avail. Also changed PIIX=y in .config file. hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works a minute and dma changes to (0) by itself.
See /etc/sysconfig/ide
degan:# xawtv /dev/video
No, xawtv is not for Haupauge WinTV cards. Just open /dev/video0 with any video player, ie:
mplayer /dev/video0
I suggest you install MythTV to get the full benefits of the card.
Charles
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv. Myth, Xawtv and all the rest just won't work for me. Kdetv takes a bit of fussing around to get to work, but will work. Getting the channels to lock in is the worst part. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv.
What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards. Charles -- printk(KERN_ERR "scsi%d: !!BINGO!! Falcon has no lock in NCR5380_abort\n", ...) linux-2.6.6/drivers/scsi/atari_NCR5380.c
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:19 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv.
What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards.
Charles
Same here, have the 150 running fine with MythTV. I had to get the latest ivtv (prob old by now) and firmware, but after that it working great. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:19 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv.
What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards.
Charles
Charles you are correct. I have been using wintTV-PVR-350 since SuSE 9.1. Kdetv does not works with these cards. The cards need the ivtv modules which now is part of the kernel. Of course you can disable it and build the new releases as they come. There is not TV application to watch tv. Basically you have two ways to do it: 1. you can pipe the output of the card (which is an mpg2 stream) to mplayer 2. You can install mythtv which again under SuSE 10.2 all the rpm are in the distro and it is few clicks away. WinTV is a great tv card. Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 19 March 2007, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:19 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv.
What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards.
Charles
Charles you are correct. I have been using wintTV-PVR-350 since SuSE 9.1. Kdetv does not works with these cards. The cards need the ivtv modules which now is part of the kernel. Of course you can disable it and build the new releases as they come. There is not TV application to watch tv. Basically you have two ways to do it:
1. you can pipe the output of the card (which is an mpg2 stream) to mplayer
2. You can install mythtv which again under SuSE 10.2 all the rpm are in the distro and it is few clicks away.
WinTV is a great tv card.
Ciao
-=terry(Denver)=-
Hi .. Whilst not quite the same card i am using the WinTV Nova T card and use Kaffeine with no problems at all apart from one module for some rason does not want to load on boot i have to load it from .kde/autostart which seems to work well This is openSUSE 10.3 alpha x86_64 with KDE Pete . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
There is not TV application to watch tv. Basically you have two ways to do it:
Hopefully soon you can use other apps since, now that ivtv more or less complete, it is going through a code clean up and is slowly being merged into v4l.
1. you can pipe the output of the card (which is an mpg2 stream) to mplayer
Yes, and to save the stream, just pipe it to a file.
2. You can install mythtv which again under SuSE 10.2 all the rpm are in the distro and it is few clicks away.
The only real barrier that I foresee for new people is that one will have to setup mysql to.
WinTV is a great tv card.
Yes, it is. I hope there will be new models soon that can do divx/xvid instead. As a side note, the 350 have TV out and the svn version of mplayer is now capable of outputing to that. I don't know if it is in the Packman version yet. Charles
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:19 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv. What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards.
Charles
Charles you are correct. I have been using wintTV-PVR-350 since SuSE 9.1. Kdetv does not works with these cards. The cards need the ivtv modules which now is part of the kernel. Of course you can disable it and build the new releases as they come. There is not TV application to watch tv. Basically you have two ways to do it:
1. you can pipe the output of the card (which is an mpg2 stream) to mplayer
2. You can install mythtv which again under SuSE 10.2 all the rpm are in the distro and it is few clicks away.
WinTV is a great tv card.
Ciao
-=terry(Denver)=-
I have a haupage in this box that works just fine with Kdetv. The other one is the STB, also work fine with Kdetv. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a haupage in this box that works just fine with Kdetv. The other one is the STB, also work fine with Kdetv.
I presume you have a dvb card which is different from the products we are talking about. Charles -- prom_printf("Detected PenguinPages, getting out of here.\n"); linux-2.0.38/arch/sparc/mm/srmmu.c
Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a haupage in this box that works just fine with Kdetv. The other one is the STB, also work fine with Kdetv.
I presume you have a dvb card which is different from the products we are talking about.
Charles
I mislabels one of the cards. It's not the STB, it's the Super TV Tuner. Sorry. The STB is down here in a box with some others. I dunno. They're tv cards. Let you watch TV on your computer. The Haupage is hooked to the outdoor antenna and the VCR. The Super TV Tuner is connected to the DirecTV box. Both have 878 chips and a tuner. The Haupage picks up all the broadcast channels in this area, plus channel three for the VCR. The Super TV Tuner only needs to pick up one channel, channel 3. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Billie, Hauppauge produce a huge amount of devices. The old winTV works ok but we are referring to the wintv PVR-250/350 (the only difference between the two is the hardware decoding for the tv out in the 350 otherwise the are the same) These superb cards produce a mpg stream that kdetv can not decode. Except is there a new version that I am not aware of this application it will not work. -=terry(Denver)=- On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 19:14 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:19 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv. What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards.
Charles
Charles you are correct. I have been using wintTV-PVR-350 since SuSE 9.1. Kdetv does not works with these cards. The cards need the ivtv modules which now is part of the kernel. Of course you can disable it and build the new releases as they come. There is not TV application to watch tv. Basically you have two ways to do it:
1. you can pipe the output of the card (which is an mpg2 stream) to mplayer
2. You can install mythtv which again under SuSE 10.2 all the rpm are in the distro and it is few clicks away.
WinTV is a great tv card.
Ciao
-=terry(Denver)=-
I have a haupage in this box that works just fine with Kdetv. The other one is the STB, also work fine with Kdetv.
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Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
Billie,
Hauppauge produce a huge amount of devices. The old winTV works ok but we are referring to the wintv PVR-250/350 (the only difference between the two is the hardware decoding for the tv out in the 350 otherwise the are the same) These superb cards produce a mpg stream that kdetv can not decode. Except is there a new version that I am not aware of this application it will not work.
-=terry(Denver)=-
To be honest I don't know the difference. These are cards that let you watch TV on a computer. I don't know what the output of the cards are. Don't really care as long as it does what I want. The software [ Windows ] that comes with them lets you do video capture but I don't use it much. The few times I did give it a try for fun it didn't seem to work all that well. A DVD Recorder hooked directly to the satellite box or VCR/camera does a much better job with a lot less hassle. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
Hauppauge produce a huge amount of devices. The old winTV works ok but we are referring to the wintv PVR-250/350 (the only difference between the two is the hardware decoding for the tv out in the 350 otherwise the are the same)
Don't forget the dual tuner version (PVR-500) which is like have two 250's in one. Charles -- "The IETF motto is 'rough consensus and running code'" -- Scott Bradner (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
Charles philip Chan wrote:
Don't forget the dual tuner version (PVR-500) which is like have two 250's in one.
I would shy away from the PVR-500. Apparently there are a lot of problems with the tuners in the most recent batch. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I have a TV card in each of my machines. One a Haupage and the other is an old STB. The ONLY thing I have ever got to work with either one is Kdetv.
What problems do you have with MythTV? I have a WinTV 250 and it is fully functional with MythTV. The only problem that I have had is that I needed a modified version of lirc to get the remote fully functional with ir-blaster. You are the first person that I that heard of who have problems with the WinTV cards and MythTV. There are lots of people in the MythTV list using these cards.
Charles
No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs. At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0 also. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs. At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0 also.
(1) Did you setup MySQL? (2) Did you create the MythTV MySQL database? (3) What errors do you get when you try to run it from a console? Here is a detailed installation instructions: http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall Charles -- "The move was on to 'Free the Lizard'" -- Jim Hamerly and Tom Paquin (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs. At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0 also.
(1) Did you setup MySQL?
What's MySQL?
(2) Did you create the MythTV MySQL database?
I told it to on one of the config screens.
(3) What errors do you get when you try to run it from a console?
Never tried.
Here is a detailed installation instructions:
http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall
Charles
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On Monday 19 March 2007 05:57:53 pm Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs. At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0 also.
(1) Did you setup MySQL?
What's MySQL?
Oracle and Microsoft's worst nightmare. http://www.mysql.com/ MySQL is a multithreaded, multi-user SQL database management system (DBMS)[1] which has, according to MySQL AB, more than 10 million installations. SUSE has MySQL repositories under Productivity/Databases/Servers and a bunch of tools and libraries. You can use the free version or pay for support/licenses if you want. The M in the term "LAMP stack" these days often (though not always) refers to MySQL. (LAMP ~ Linux + Apache + MySQL + PHP) My websites in my sig all run on MySQL and I have several in-house applications running on MySQL at work. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Charles philip Chan wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
No matter how much of the myth stuff I install it never actually runs. At best I get some sort of config screen and then nothing. Happens in both 10.1 and 10.2/64. As I recall it was much the same with 10.0 also.
(1) Did you setup MySQL?
(2) Did you create the MythTV MySQL database?
(3) What errors do you get when you try to run it from a console?
Here is a detailed installation instructions:
http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall
Charles
I looked through the pages. I think I will just skip it. Kdetv works just fine. Myth looks like more trouble than it's worth. I got better things to do than spend the next few weeks rebuilding my system just to watch tv. If they ever get something that you can just install and it works, I might be interested. TV watching on my computer is not high on my list of priorities. If I want to burn a few DVD's of my stuff I can hook up the DVD Burner and a couple cables a LOT easier than I can do it with the computer. Thanks for the suggestions though. It was interesting. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 19 March 2007 21:35, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
TV watching on my computer is not high on my list of priorities. If I want to burn a few DVD's of my stuff I can hook up the DVD Burner and a couple cables a LOT easier than I can do it with the computer. At our home the antenae has been down for 25 years... the cable has been unplugged for 10. (we don't watch TV period, let alone on the computer)
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On Monday 19 March 2007 07:51:39 pm M Harris wrote:
On Monday 19 March 2007 21:35, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
TV watching on my computer is not high on my list of priorities. If I want to burn a few DVD's of my stuff I can hook up the DVD Burner and a couple cables a LOT easier than I can do it with the computer.
At our home the antenae has been down for 25 years... the cable has been unplugged for 10. (we don't watch TV period, let alone on the computer)
<sigh>
You rock! -- kai -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote: Although one can use MythTV on a general purpose computer, the original intention is for a dedicated pvr+multimedia box, like TiVO.
If they ever get something that you can just install and it works, I might be interested. TV watching on my computer is not high on my list of priorities.
There is, it is called KnoppMyth: http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Charles -- panic("do_trap: can't hit this"); linux-2.6.6/arch/i386/mm/extable.c
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
I looked through the pages. I think I will just skip it. Kdetv works just fine. Myth looks like more trouble than it's worth. I got better things to do than spend the next few weeks rebuilding my system just to watch tv.
It looks harder than it is. It took me less than 1/2 hour the first time. Charles -- die_if_kernel("Kernel gets FloatingPenguinUnit disabled trap", regs); linux-2.2.16/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c
Forgot to add, did you start mythbackend? Charles -- /* Remember: "Different name, same old buggy as shit hardware." */ linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/sunhme.c
Charles philip Chan wrote:
Forgot to add, did you start mythbackend?
Charles
Have something called MythTV Frontend in my menu. Doesn't seem to do anything either. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Mar 2007, bilwalsh@swbell.net wrote:
Have something called MythTV Frontend in my menu. Doesn't seem to do anything either.
Please go to the link I send you to read up on MythTV. MythTV uses a server client architecture. You must start the backend first before you can start the frontend. In essence, you can have a MythTV server in your house and multiple machines running either the QT frontend or Web interface (Mythweb) anywhere on your network. Charles -- "Besides, I think [Slackware] sounds better than 'Microsoft,' don't you?" (By Patrick Volkerding)
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 22:22 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
MythTV uses a server client architecture. You must start the backend first before you can start the frontend. In essence, you can have a MythTV server in your house and multiple machines running either the QT frontend or Web interface (Mythweb) anywhere on your network.
Charles netwoking TV it is probably the most significant change that will come in the near feature. Mythtv is ahead of the rest. I am glad that SuSE is including the packages in the distro which makes the installation pretty simple. Interestingly I was watching dw-tv from germany the other day and they were showing a "house of the future" and the most important part was essentially what mythtv offers plus few sensors to control some of the house electronics. For people that have not use mythtv is very hard to understand the significance of it. Excellent searching capabilities so in few seconds you can find what you wanted weeks ahead. Very simple to mark and then after a while whenever you watch tv you just watch what you wanted at the time you wanted without commercials. Do you have HDTV setup already?. I got pcHDTV card but I have not installed yet. I had some problems with SuSE 10.2 (all solved) that delay that part. Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 20 Mar 2007, chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
Charles netwoking TV it is probably the most significant change that will come in the near feature. Mythtv is ahead of the rest.
Yes, I agree.
Interestingly I was watching dw-tv from germany the other day and they were showing a "house of the future" and the most important part was essentially what mythtv offers plus few sensors to control some of the house electronics.
Yes, maybe be we will see it soon in MythTV. MythSecurity, MythX10 anyone?
For people that have not use mythtv is very hard to understand the significance of it.
Definitely, I certainly didn't understand until I started using it.
Excellent searching capabilities so in few seconds you can find what you wanted weeks ahead. Very simple to mark
Yes, just mark the programs you like and forget about it. You can also set it to skip recording if you have seen that perticular one before, etc.
and then after a while whenever you watch tv you just watch what you wanted at the time you wanted without commercials.
This constant come up on the MythTV list. No one watches live TV anymore after getting spoilt by mythcommflag. :-)
Do you have HDTV setup already?. I got pcHDTV card but I have not installed yet. I had some problems with SuSE 10.2 (all solved) that delay that part.
No, not yet. Unlike places like Japan (where they have enjoyed HD for over a decade), we are only slowly seeing some HD content in North America. It is not time yet. Here are the benefits I see with a Myth box hooked up to you TV in the living room and a permanent Internet connection: (1) It brings Internet content to the living room (MythWeather, MythNews, MythFlix, etc...) (2) The VCR brought us time shifting, but with the Networked PVR, we now also have space shifting. In essence, one have access to one's own media library from anywhere as long as there is an Internet connection. Charles -- /* panic?? These should never occur in our application. */ linux-2.6.6/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aiclib.c
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 04:12:36 Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 22:22 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
MythTV uses a server client architecture. You must start the backend first before you can start the frontend. In essence, you can have a MythTV server in your house and multiple machines running either the QT frontend or Web interface (Mythweb) anywhere on your network.
Charles netwoking TV it is probably the most significant change that will come in the near feature. Mythtv is ahead of the rest. I am glad that SuSE is including the packages in the distro which makes the installation pretty simple.
Interestingly I was watching dw-tv from germany the other day and they were showing a "house of the future" and the most important part was essentially what mythtv offers plus few sensors to control some of the house electronics.
For people that have not use mythtv is very hard to understand the significance of it. Excellent searching capabilities so in few seconds you can find what you wanted weeks ahead. Very simple to mark and then after a while whenever you watch tv you just watch what you wanted at the time you wanted without commercials.
Do you have HDTV setup already?. I got pcHDTV card but I have not installed yet. I had some problems with SuSE 10.2 (all solved) that delay that part.
Ciao
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Is there a tv card that is USB and works with mythtv on SuSE ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 20 Mar 2007, michaeltnorman@ukfsn.org wrote:
Is there a tv card that is USB and works with mythtv on SuSE ?
According to the MythTV manual: (1) Plextor ConvertX PVR devices (2) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-USB2 Please refer to this page: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 Charles -- printk(KERN_ERR "msp3400: chip reset failed, penguin on i2c bus?\n"); linux-2.2.16/drivers/char/msp3400.c
Does anyone have Darwin Streaming Server running on Suse 10.2? If so, maybe you could walk me through so I can see what dumb mistake I'm making. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 20:00 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
Charles philip Chan wrote:
Forgot to add, did you start mythbackend?
Charles
Have something called MythTV Frontend in my menu. Doesn't seem to do anything either.
Billie 1. Go to the mythtv site first and be sure you have a card supported. Not all TV card can run myth. 2. If you want to buy one get the Hauppauge wintv-pvrx50 which you can get them now pretty cheap or the 500 which has two tuners. I love the 350. I have also a pchdtv card that has an analog tuner also but first I will go for the Hauppauge (that's my bias) 3. Install mysql. This is pretty simple 4. If you have SuSE 10.2 and you are using the Hauppauge cards the ivtv module need it is loaded with kernel and the rpm for myth are also there so read the installation. If you are running previous version of 10.2 a message I sent to another user may help you. It includes howto build and install both ivtv and myth. http://forums.novell.com/group/opensuse.org.suse-linux.support.install-confi... Forum/Group: opensuse.org.suse-linux.support.install-configure-administration Subject: Mythtv under SuSE 10 (retail) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:29:07 UTC Mythtv has a server client architecture. The server (mythbackend) is located in one machine and there you also have the mysql database with all the channel, program information etc. Very often you have a mythfrontend there (client) but you may have as many as you want. I have one in my laptop (ibm x40). So during the summer I go to my backyard and I do the work there and at the same time I am watching tv in a small windows of the laptop wireless. Of course either "live" tv or recorded programs can be watched. If you have only one tuner one front end can be watching live tv in channel x and the other a recorded program or live tv also in channel x. If you have two tuner or three the possibilities change accordingly. Live TV is not live is recorder with just very small delay so this allows you to pause, rerun a previous segment etc. The recorded one for me most important feature is elimination of commercials. Well you can write a book about myth but if you want to start get a good TV card roll your sleeves and you will have it :-) Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I fogot to add you can use ivtv-tune to change channels. Charles -- printk(KERN_EMERG "PCI: Tell willy he's wrong\n"); linux-2.6.6/arch/parisc/kernel/pci.c
Yas say wrote:
I guess I was in this list 10 years ago when it started. Unfortunately although I used Linux more than a decade it still eludes me mainly because I hate computers in general.
Perhaps you would prefer a Mac? Or you could pay someone to help you who doesn't hate computers? I think you also need to read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
The question that lingers in my mind is: why does Linux still have the same bugs that existed years ago coming back again and again?
It doesn't. What you mean, I think, is "why do I have to solve the same problems?". That's probably because you don't understand what causes them or have much desire to (if you hate computers as you say). See above.
One problem I have at boot: ****************************************************** * Warning: The dma on your hard drive is turned off. * * This may really slow down the fsck process. * ****************************************************** I put PIIX module in initrd, compiled custom kernel, googled all around to no avail. Also changed PIIX=y in .config file. hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works a minute and dma changes to (0) by itself.
Perhaps you have faulty hardware? More information is needed.
2nd problem: Everything seems fine with my Hauppauge WinTV 350 board but TV never works.
Likewise
ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV==================== ivtv: version 0.8.0 (tagged release) loading ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.18.2-34-default SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1 ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with ivtv: any module options, ***when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist. ***
Did you actually read the output before cutting and pasting it to this list?
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350 card (cx23415 based) ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes) ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw firmware (262144 bytes) tuner 0-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0) tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0) saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0) saa7127 0-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0) msp3400 0-0040: MSP4448G-A2 found @ 0x80 (ivtv i2c driver #0) ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032 ivtv0: Decoder revision: 0x02020023 ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio ivtv0: Registered device video16 for decoder MPEG ivtv0: Registered device vbi8 for decoder VBI ivtv0: Registered device vbi16 for decoder VOUT ivtv0: Registered device video48 for decoder YUV ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg firmware (155648 bytes) ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card #0 ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
lsmod | grep ivtv: ivtv 175248 0 firmware_class 14080 1 ivtv cx2341x 15108 1 ivtv tveeprom 18448 1 ivtv videodev 26880 1 ivtv v4l1_compat 16388 2 ivtv,videodev v4l2_common 26240 6 msp3400,saa7115,tuner,ivtv,cx2341x,videodev i2c_algo_bit 12808 2 ivtv,i2c_i810 i2c_core 25216 7 msp3400,saa7127,saa7115,tuner,ivtv,tveeprom,i2c_algo_bit
degan:# xawtv /dev/video This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.18.2-34) /dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway no way to get: 384x288 32 bit TrueColor (LE: bgr-) no way to get: 384x288 32 bit TrueColor (LE: bgr-)
degan:# v4l-conf v4l-conf: using X11 display :0.0 dga: version 2.0 mode: 1024x768, depth=24, bpp=32, bpl=4096, base=0x48000000 /dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support
I tried to open any TV application but can't open /dev/video. however, ls -l /dev/vi* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video -> video0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 16 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video16 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 24 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video24 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 32 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video32 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 48 2007-03-18 15:56 /dev/video48
Likewise.
and several other problems with a dualboot system that works 100% under Windows XP. So why didn't you list them? Or did you just write to the list to complain?
System is slow and I can't watch TV so what is the use?
Ah! So what you really need is a TV rather than a computer. Or perhaps you really use it for something else, so there is some use?
Any clues?
As I said, a clue can be found here: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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