[opensuse] no connection to router after boot
Hello, since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects. I have no idea where I could search for the reasons, where to look up hints or logs, what data I should mention here, where to "screw" to solve the problem... Opensuse 12.3 KDE 4.10.5 network setup "traditional" with ifup connected by cable from eth0 to adsl-router Once, after boot, I tried to switch to network-manager, but it tells me that no cable is connected, so I switched back to "traditional". Earlier, somebody said, I'd have to disconnect the router from all cables incl. phone line and power, and leave it a while. I first thought that it helped, but in fact it did not... Anybody had similar problems and found a solution? Thanks for your help! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-06-15 13:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Once, after boot, I tried to switch to network-manager, but it tells me that no cable is connected, so I switched back to "traditional".
If it says there is no cable, I would assume it is a faulty router. Somehow it disconnects the cable... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Am 15.06.2014 13:52, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2014-06-15 13:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Once, after boot, I tried to switch to network-manager, but it tells me that no cable is connected, so I switched back to "traditional".
If it says there is no cable, I would assume it is a faulty router. Somehow it disconnects the cable...
It only says that there is no cable after boot and before I switch off/on the router. Once the router has re-established the adsl-connection the cable is found and the system connects (traditional and networkmanager) and it persists without problems. But as soon as I reboot the computer it says again "no cable" until I restart the router... (Carlos, you're in Spain, no? Have you any idea/experience how long it takes to replace the router with telefonica? - I have that "free" router that was delivered when contracting the adsl-line with telefonica...) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-06-15 14:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
(Carlos, you're in Spain, no? Have you any idea/experience how long it takes to replace the router with telefonica? - I have that "free" router that was delivered when contracting the adsl-line with telefonica...)
Which model is it? There are two web pages with lots of information about the ISPs and their hardware, as used in Spain. And they have forums: http://www.adslayuda.com/ http://www.adslzone.net/ I have never asked Telefonica to replace my router. Instead, I bough a new one of my choice. I had a Comtrend 536+ for some years, till I found out the WiFi would not connect to all machines. So I bought a Pclink TD-W8970 which works much better. I would have it very difficult to convince them than it was the router fault, and not my cellular phone fault, so I did not bother and bought a new router. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 14:20 +0200, Daniel Bauer wrote:
(Carlos, you're in Spain, no? Have you any idea/experience how long it takes to replace the router with telefonica? - I have that "free" router that was delivered when contracting the adsl-line with telefonica...)
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 14:20 +0200, Daniel Bauer wrote:
(Carlos, you're in Spain, no? Have you any idea/experience how long it takes to replace the router with telefonica? - I have that "free" router that was delivered when contracting the adsl-line with telefonica...)
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 14:20 +0200, Daniel Bauer wrote:
(Carlos, you're in Spain, no? Have you any idea/experience how long it takes to replace the router with telefonica? - I have that "free" router that was delivered when contracting the adsl-line with telefonica...)
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-) And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2014-06-16 16:03, I wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-)
And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-)
Worse: I hate fútbol, which is a very useful conversation topic these days ;-) Sigh, I don't differentiate a penalti from a corner or a common falta! (local espanglish slang used on purpose :-) ) (This round Media Mark does not offer big plasma TVs for free if we win the cup ;-) ) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2014-06-16 16:03, I wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-) No, sorry. You can't wriggle out that easily, although there could well be a case for this evidence to be taken into account at a later stage in
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 16:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: the inquiry. Meanwhile, and being a good Españlish resident, I'm going to move the goalposts. It's changed from, 'All Spaniards...', to, 'All those resident in Spain...'. After all, how otherwise would we anything get done here?
And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-)
A distinct advantage when negotiating a router from a Movistar engineer. In a bar. In Spain;)
Worse: I hate fútbol, which is a very useful conversation topic these days ;-) Sigh, I don't differentiate a penalti from a corner or a common falta!
(local espanglish slang used on purpose :-) )
No te preoccupy. ¡Neither do I, tampoco!
(This round Media Mark does not offer big plasma TVs for free if we win the cup ;-) )
¡Pero ojo, cerveza gratis if we do. ¡Basta ya! L xx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 16.06.2014 16:25, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2014-06-16 16:03, I wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-)
And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-)
Worse: I hate fútbol, which is a very useful conversation topic these days ;-) Sigh, I don't differentiate a penalti from a corner or a common falta!
I haven't found penalti in Yast, and not in system settings, too. The manual of my router says nothing about fútbol conversation and walking in direction of the movistar shop I cannot find any common falta, only lots of mini falda. Maybe that's because I'm swiss? But I'll give it a try. Although the bars next to movistar are not nice and due to the qualification of movistars employees it might be a surprise what I get if I ask for a router. Must improve my spanglish! -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, June 16, 2014 06:17:57 PM Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 16.06.2014 16:25, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2014-06-16 16:03, I wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-)
And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-)
Worse: I hate fútbol, which is a very useful conversation topic these days ;-) Sigh, I don't differentiate a penalti from a corner or a common falta!
I haven't found penalti in Yast, and not in system settings, too. The manual of my router says nothing about fútbol conversation and walking in direction of the movistar shop I cannot find any common falta, only lots of mini falda. Maybe that's because I'm swiss?
But I'll give it a try. Although the bars next to movistar are not nice and due to the qualification of movistars employees it might be a surprise what I get if I ask for a router. Must improve my spanglish!
After having that good understanding of Esplanglish play of words you should not have any issues with that "Futbolero Router" :-) In the meantime, if you have any spare port from that router or different cable you could test them separately. I mean different cable first and if that issue persist try another port. I am suspecting one of your hardware has electrical issues at early stage. Waiting from Movistar's tech support will need a lot of Birras-Cervezas-Beers to calm the frustration. Hope this can help just a bit. R.Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 18:17 +0200, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 16.06.2014 16:25, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2014-06-16 16:03, I wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
Hi If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-)
And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-)
Worse: I hate fútbol, which is a very useful conversation topic these days ;-) Sigh, I don't differentiate a penalti from a corner or a common falta!
I haven't found penalti in Yast, and not in system settings, too. The manual of my router says nothing about fútbol conversation and walking in direction of the movistar shop I cannot find any common falta, only lots of mini falda.
So, even easier. You get a date with the mini falda, take _her_ to the bar and ask _her_ to ask the técnico. Just remember not to say, penaltí, fútbol or Yast and you'll be fine. Actually, if you've checked the cable and the mobo and you're passing Carrefour, €26: http://www.carrefouronline.carrefour.es/noalimentacion/TemplateProduct.aspx?pila=catalog310026%40cat410288%40cat410350%40cat410377&itemMarcado=catalog310026&nivel_desplegado=cat410377&itemId=234501824 The mini falda will set you back a lot more than that even if you do get the router thrown in;) HTH L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-06-16 19:07, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 18:17 +0200, Daniel Bauer wrote:
I haven't found penalti in Yast, and not in system settings, too. The manual of my router says nothing about fútbol conversation and walking in direction of the movistar shop I cannot find any common falta, only lots of mini falda.
So, even easier. You get a date with the mini falda, take _her_ to the bar and ask _her_ to ask the técnico. Just remember not to say, penaltí, fútbol or Yast and you'll be fine.
Actually, if you've checked the cable and the mobo and you're passing Carrefour, €26: http://www.carrefouronline.carrefour.es/noalimentacion/TemplateProduct.aspx?pila=catalog310026%40cat410288%40cat410350%40cat410377&itemMarcado=catalog310026&nivel_desplegado=cat410377&itemId=234501824
The mini falda will set you back a lot more than that even if you do get the router thrown in;) HTH L x
ROTFL!! X'-) Mine is this one (46€): http://www.pccomponentes.com/tp_link_td_w8970_router_modem_wireless_n_adsl2_... but they have another one for 19.95€. In my case, that shop is almost local to me, no mail delivery needed. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Am 16.06.2014 19:07, schrieb lynn:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 18:17 +0200, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 16.06.2014 16:25, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2014-06-16 16:03, I wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:59, lynn wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:44 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-16 15:37, lynn wrote:
> Hi > If you can get by the teenagers selling mobile 'phones (wave a contract > and say Linux should be enough), any tecchie in the back of a movistar > shop will slip you a working router in exchange for a beer in the bar > next door. In fact even better, try the bar first;)
Possibly. LOL. But I lack "bar social skills". Sigh.
Nonsense. All Spaniards have them installed by default. LOL.
Ah, but you forget that I have British blood in me :-)
And no, I don't have "British pub social skills" either, because I was born here.... ;-)
Worse: I hate fútbol, which is a very useful conversation topic these days ;-) Sigh, I don't differentiate a penalti from a corner or a common falta!
I haven't found penalti in Yast, and not in system settings, too. The manual of my router says nothing about fútbol conversation and walking in direction of the movistar shop I cannot find any common falta, only lots of mini falda.
So, even easier. You get a date with the mini falda, take _her_ to the bar and ask _her_ to ask the técnico. Just remember not to say, penaltí, fútbol or Yast and you'll be fine.
Actually, if you've checked the cable and the mobo and you're passing Carrefour, €26: http://www.carrefouronline.carrefour.es/noalimentacion/TemplateProduct.aspx?pila=catalog310026%40cat410288%40cat410350%40cat410377&itemMarcado=catalog310026&nivel_desplegado=cat410377&itemId=234501824
The mini falda will set you back a lot more than that even if you do get the router thrown in;) HTH L x
So, just in the unexpected but still possible case that my mini-falda-seducing-skills fail (or it gets too expensive, you know...): Are there any important differences between cheap and more expensive routers that I should be aware of, provided the case that there is always only one machine connected by cable and - at the same time - several laptops connected by WIFI? Like, for example, the strength of the antenna signal (operating distance)? Or...??? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-06-17 10:00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
So, just in the unexpected but still possible case that my mini-falda-seducing-skills fail (or it gets too expensive, you know...):
:-)
Are there any important differences between cheap and more expensive routers that I should be aware of, provided the case that there is always only one machine connected by cable and - at the same time - several laptops connected by WIFI?
There are differences, of course. Important or not, depends. Mine has 4 gigabit ports, for instance, instead of the typical 100 MB/s ports, IPv6, VPN. It is an ADSL router mainly, but it can use an USB dongle to connect to a cellular network instead, or to another router via eth0 (that is, one of the internal network ports changes to be external network port, which as another of your questions). At this moment, I don't remember what was the deciding factor for me. Gigabit was one.
Like, for example, the strength of the antenna signal (operating distance)? Or...???
With three antennas, I understand, the radiation pattern is more flat and thus adequate for apartments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 13:17 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-17 10:00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
So, just in the unexpected but still possible case that my mini-falda-seducing-skills fail (or it gets too expensive, you know...):
:-)
Are there any important differences between cheap and more expensive routers that I should be aware of, provided the case that there is always only one machine connected by cable and - at the same time - several laptops connected by WIFI?
There are differences, of course. Important or not, depends. Mine has 4 gigabit ports, for instance, instead of the typical 100 MB/s ports, IPv6, VPN. It is an ADSL router mainly, but it can use an USB dongle to connect to a cellular network instead, or to another router via eth0 (that is, one of the internal network ports changes to be external network port, which as another of your questions).
At this moment, I don't remember what was the deciding factor for me. Gigabit was one.
Like, for example, the strength of the antenna signal (operating distance)? Or...???
With three antennas, I understand, the radiation pattern is more flat and thus adequate for apartments.
Hi If you have a lot of clients, it may be best to get a router between say 10 wss and daisy chain them. There are access points and amplifiers too but they work out more expensive than real routers. Then they start talking about bandwidth and stuff. From experience, I know that you can't run a proper network on movistar routers but they're fine for Internet. You need cables and switches or loadsa money. Anyway, why are we talking about this? It's Chile-Spain tomorrow. Love, L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 17.06.2014 14:35, schrieb lynn:
On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 13:17 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-06-17 10:00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
So, just in the unexpected but still possible case that my mini-falda-seducing-skills fail (or it gets too expensive, you know...):
:-)
Are there any important differences between cheap and more expensive routers that I should be aware of, provided the case that there is always only one machine connected by cable and - at the same time - several laptops connected by WIFI?
There are differences, of course. Important or not, depends. Mine has 4 gigabit ports, for instance, instead of the typical 100 MB/s ports, IPv6, VPN. It is an ADSL router mainly, but it can use an USB dongle to connect to a cellular network instead, or to another router via eth0 (that is, one of the internal network ports changes to be external network port, which as another of your questions).
At this moment, I don't remember what was the deciding factor for me. Gigabit was one.
Like, for example, the strength of the antenna signal (operating distance)? Or...???
With three antennas, I understand, the radiation pattern is more flat and thus adequate for apartments.
Hi If you have a lot of clients, it may be best to get a router between say 10 wss and daisy chain them. There are access points and amplifiers too but they work out more expensive than real routers. Then they start talking about bandwidth and stuff. From experience, I know that you can't run a proper network on movistar routers but they're fine for Internet. You need cables and switches or loadsa money. Anyway, why are we talking about this? It's Chile-Spain tomorrow. Love, L x
There is the wired desktop and max. 3 laptops/wifi-phones at the same time. The telefonica router does (did?) it's job good enough for me. However, there's a friend moving house in a few days and then I can try if my problem persists using his router/cable... and then I look further... I'll let the list know. Meanwhile I'll train my social skills, just in case. Happy to have Chile-Spain tomorrow, because there's space in the street cafés and my usual male competitors sit in the restaurants in front of a screen forgetting even the nicest minifaldas close to them - my advantage... :-) Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/06/14 23:52, Daniel Bauer wrote: [pruned]
There is the wired desktop and max. 3 laptops/wifi-phones at the same time. The telefonica router does (did?) it's job good enough for me.
However, there's a friend moving house in a few days and then I can try if my problem persists using his router/cable... and then I look further...
I'll let the list know.
Meanwhile I'll train my social skills, just in case. Happy to have Chile-Spain tomorrow, because there's space in the street cafés and my usual male competitors sit in the restaurants in front of a screen forgetting even the nicest minifaldas close to them - my advantage...
:-)
Daniel
You haven't answered my question whether your LAN is connected to the onboard chip in your computer or to a (PCI/PCIe) NIC in the computer. Either one could be playing up causing you your problem. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 18.06.2014 03:12, schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 17/06/14 23:52, Daniel Bauer wrote:
[pruned]
There is the wired desktop and max. 3 laptops/wifi-phones at the same time. The telefonica router does (did?) it's job good enough for me.
However, there's a friend moving house in a few days and then I can try if my problem persists using his router/cable... and then I look further...
I'll let the list know.
Meanwhile I'll train my social skills, just in case. Happy to have Chile-Spain tomorrow, because there's space in the street cafés and my usual male competitors sit in the restaurants in front of a screen forgetting even the nicest minifaldas close to them - my advantage...
:-)
Daniel
You haven't answered my question whether your LAN is connected to the onboard chip in your computer or to a (PCI/PCIe) NIC in the computer. Either one could be playing up causing you your problem.
BC
Sorry Basil, it is connected to the onboard chip, which is a RTL 8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller by Realtek (thats what KDE Info-Center says...) Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/06/14 19:05, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 18.06.2014 03:12, schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 17/06/14 23:52, Daniel Bauer wrote:
[pruned]
There is the wired desktop and max. 3 laptops/wifi-phones at the same time. The telefonica router does (did?) it's job good enough for me.
However, there's a friend moving house in a few days and then I can try if my problem persists using his router/cable... and then I look further...
I'll let the list know.
Meanwhile I'll train my social skills, just in case. Happy to have Chile-Spain tomorrow, because there's space in the street cafés and my usual male competitors sit in the restaurants in front of a screen forgetting even the nicest minifaldas close to them - my advantage...
:-)
Daniel
You haven't answered my question whether your LAN is connected to the onboard chip in your computer or to a (PCI/PCIe) NIC in the computer. Either one could be playing up causing you your problem.
BC
Sorry Basil, it is connected to the onboard chip, which is a RTL 8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller by Realtek (thats what KDE Info-Center says...)
Daniel
Thanks Daniel. As my earlier post states the chip on my mobo stopped working a couple of days after installation and I replaced it with a PCI (in my case a PCIe) NIC. The cost of such a card is less than a packet of cigarettes (if you smoke, and are living here in Australia!). Get yourself a gigabit NIC card which may solve your problem. If it does not solve the problem then at least you have gone some way to determine, at a VERY small price (a NIC is now peanuts to buy) that the problem is not in the onboard chip or the NIC and so we must look at the cable and, progressing up the line, at the modem/router. But first things first so start with installing a NIC. I won't mention any brand names as the same brand is sold under different names in different countries - but when buying make sure that it suits your motherboard: PCI or PCIe, and that your m/board has an available slot for it. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/18/2014 06:33 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 18/06/14 19:05, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 18.06.2014 03:12, schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 17/06/14 23:52, Daniel Bauer wrote:
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There is the wired desktop and max. 3 laptops/wifi-phones at the same time. The telefonica router does (did?) it's job good enough for me.
However, there's a friend moving house in a few days and then I can try if my problem persists using his router/cable... and then I look further...
I'll let the list know.
Meanwhile I'll train my social skills, just in case. Happy to have Chile-Spain tomorrow, because there's space in the street cafés and my usual male competitors sit in the restaurants in front of a screen forgetting even the nicest minifaldas close to them - my advantage...
:-)
Daniel
You haven't answered my question whether your LAN is connected to the onboard chip in your computer or to a (PCI/PCIe) NIC in the computer. Either one could be playing up causing you your problem.
BC
Sorry Basil, it is connected to the onboard chip, which is a RTL 8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller by Realtek (thats what KDE Info-Center says...)
Daniel
Thanks Daniel.
As my earlier post states the chip on my mobo stopped working a couple of days after installation and I replaced it with a PCI (in my case a PCIe) NIC. The cost of such a card is less than a packet of cigarettes (if you smoke, and are living here in Australia!). Get yourself a gigabit NIC card which may solve your problem. If it does not solve the problem then at least you have gone some way to determine, at a VERY small price (a NIC is now peanuts to buy) that the problem is not in the onboard chip or the NIC and so we must look at the cable and, progressing up the line, at the modem/router. But first things first so start with installing a NIC. I won't mention any brand names as the same brand is sold under different names in different countries - but when buying make sure that it suits your motherboard: PCI or PCIe, and that your m/board has an available slot for it.
BC
While all very interesting, I don't see how this bears on Daniel's problem. When a a nic fails to connect only upon rebooting, but otherwise works fine, and when rebooting the ROUTER fixes the problem, AND when this only came to pass with recent software updates, suggesting the he replace hardware seems a little off base. This sounds more like a failure to negotiate (speed, duplex, etc) than anything else, and these are all software issues. I'd look into options for the Nic modules before I started replacing hardware. -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/06/14 04:09, John Andersen wrote:
On 06/18/2014 06:33 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 18/06/14 19:05, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 18.06.2014 03:12, schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 17/06/14 23:52, Daniel Bauer wrote:
[pruned]
There is the wired desktop and max. 3 laptops/wifi-phones at the same time. The telefonica router does (did?) it's job good enough for me.
However, there's a friend moving house in a few days and then I can try if my problem persists using his router/cable... and then I look further...
I'll let the list know.
Meanwhile I'll train my social skills, just in case. Happy to have Chile-Spain tomorrow, because there's space in the street cafés and my usual male competitors sit in the restaurants in front of a screen forgetting even the nicest minifaldas close to them - my advantage...
:-)
Daniel You haven't answered my question whether your LAN is connected to the onboard chip in your computer or to a (PCI/PCIe) NIC in the computer. Either one could be playing up causing you your problem.
BC
Sorry Basil, it is connected to the onboard chip, which is a RTL 8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller by Realtek (thats what KDE Info-Center says...)
Daniel
Thanks Daniel.
As my earlier post states the chip on my mobo stopped working a couple of days after installation and I replaced it with a PCI (in my case a PCIe) NIC. The cost of such a card is less than a packet of cigarettes (if you smoke, and are living here in Australia!). Get yourself a gigabit NIC card which may solve your problem. If it does not solve the problem then at least you have gone some way to determine, at a VERY small price (a NIC is now peanuts to buy) that the problem is not in the onboard chip or the NIC and so we must look at the cable and, progressing up the line, at the modem/router. But first things first so start with installing a NIC. I won't mention any brand names as the same brand is sold under different names in different countries - but when buying make sure that it suits your motherboard: PCI or PCIe, and that your m/board has an available slot for it.
BC
While all very interesting, I don't see how this bears on Daniel's problem.
When a a nic fails to connect only upon rebooting, but otherwise works fine, and when rebooting the ROUTER fixes the problem, AND when this only came to pass with recent software updates, suggesting the he replace hardware seems a little off base.
This sounds more like a failure to negotiate (speed, duplex, etc) than anything else, and these are all software issues. I'd look into options for the Nic modules before I started replacing hardware.
Well, none of your suggestions have solved his problem so they, too, don't bear on his problem. With no specific reason for his problem having been offered so far any comment/suggest is to be considered because I, at least, have found that the most unlikely component or piece of equipment is capable of acting in the most unpredictable way. What one of the things I have found with a list such as this one is that people make a suggest/comment which then makes someone else suddenly remember of a (another) possible reason; and this exchange of ideas usually then leads to the right solution being produced. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hello,
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects.
I have no idea where I could search for the reasons, where to look up hints or logs, what data I should mention here, where to "screw" to solve the problem...
Opensuse 12.3 KDE 4.10.5 network setup "traditional" with ifup connected by cable from eth0 to adsl-router
Once, after boot, I tried to switch to network-manager, but it tells me that no cable is connected, so I switched back to "traditional".
Earlier, somebody said, I'd have to disconnect the router from all cables incl. phone line and power, and leave it a while. I first thought that it helped, but in fact it did not...
Anybody had similar problems and found a solution?
Thanks for your help!
Daniel
Try this script (note: must be run as/by root): _____________________SCRIPT STARTS ON NEXT LINE_________________________ #!/bin/bash # # quicknet - quickly set up networking on specified interface & IP # # Date Who What/notes # ----------- ----------------------- ------------------------------------ # 26 Feb 2010 Aaron R. Kulkis Original version # http://pastebin.com/yX6WSyMz # # # Essence of program: # prompt and read INTERFACE # ifup $INTERFACE # ifconfig # prompt and read IP # ifconfig $INTERFACE $IP # ifconfig # prompt and read ROUTER # route add $ROUTER $INTERFACE # route # route add default gw $ROUTER $INTERFACE # route # ping ROUTER (confirm connection to router) # ping 8.8.8.8 (Google open DNS host, confirms gateway operation)) # ping www.google.com (confirms DNS operation) # # SELF=`basename $0` # #### GET INTERFACE ################## # printf "Use which interface ? " read INTERFACE printf "execute ifup $INTERFACE ?" read RESPONSE case RESPONSE in y* | Y* ) set -x ifup $INTERFACE ifconfig $INTERFACE set +x ;; esac # #### GET ADDRESS ################## # printf "What IP address for $INTERFACE ? " read IP printf "\nAttempting to configure $INTERFACE\n" set -x ; ifconfig $INTERFACE $IP ; set +x printf "\nPress return key" ; read A set -x ; ifconfig $INTERFACE ; set +x # #### DEFINE ROUTER ################## # printf "What is the name or IP address of the router/gateway? " read ROUTER printf "specifying path to router $ROUTER\n" set -x ; route add $ROUTER $INTERFACE ; set +x # printf "\nPress return key" ; read A # printf "Verifying route added to route table\n" # set -x ; route ; set +x printf "defining $ROUTER as the gateway.\n" set -x ; route add default gw $ROUTER $INTERFACE ; set +x # printf "\nPress return key" ; read A # printf "Verify route added to route table\n" # set -x ; route ; set +x # #### VERIFY ROUTE COMPLETE ################## # printf "Verifiny that route table complete:\n" set -x ; route ; set +x printf "test local network with 3 pings: " set -x; ping -c 3 $ROUTER ; set +x printf "test routing by pinging Google public DNS servers 3 times each\n" set -x ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 ping -c 3 8.8.4.4 set +x printf "Testing DNS functionality:\n pinging www.google.com 3 times\n" set -x; ping -c 3 www.google.com ; set +x ############# end of quicknet ##################### For ease of use, you can do something like this: $ more eth1.1.101 eth1 y 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.254 $ qn < /local/bin/eth1.1.101 Note, instead of IP addresses, you can use hostnames placed in /etc/hosts/ Example: $ grep "2wire\|wowhome" /etc/hosts 192.168.1.254 2wirerouter 2wire 2wirehome 192.168.0.1 wowrouter wow wowhome $ more eth0.0.100 eth0 y 192.168.0.100 wowhome $ more eth1.1.67 eth1 y 192.168.1.67 2wire $ grep "2wire\|wowhome" /etc/hosts 192.168.1.254 2wirerouter 2wire 2wirehome 192.168.0.1 wowrouter wow wowhome -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 15.06.2014 20:33, schrieb Dirk Gently:
Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hello,
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects. ....
Try this script (note: must be run as/by root): _____________________SCRIPT STARTS ON NEXT LINE_________________________ ...
Dirk, I rebooted the computer to try your script, this is the output...:
Use which interface ? eth0 execute ifup eth0 ?y What IP address for eth0 ? 192.168.1.32
Attempting to configure eth0 + ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.32 + set +x
Press return key + ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 1C:6F:65:91:08:F9 inet addr:192.168.1.32 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
+ set +x What is the name or IP address of the router/gateway? 192.168.1.1 specifying path to router 192.168.1.1 + route add 192.168.1.1 eth0 + set +x defining 192.168.1.1 as the gateway. + route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0 + set +x Verifiny that route table complete: + route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 + set +x test local network with 3 pings: + ping -c 3 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms pipe 2 + set +x test routing by pinging Google public DNS servers 3 times each + ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms pipe 3 + ping -c 3 8.8.4.4 PING 8.8.4.4 (8.8.4.4) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
--- 8.8.4.4 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms pipe 3 + set +x Testing DNS functionality: pinging www.google.com 3 times + ping -c 3 www.google.com ping: unknown host www.google.com + set +x
As you can see, it just didn't find the router... I switched off and on the router, and the connection gets established (eth immediately after switch on, internet after the router has it...) ??? Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 15.06.2014 20:33, schrieb Dirk Gently:
Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hello,
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects. ....
Try this script (note: must be run as/by root): _____________________SCRIPT STARTS ON NEXT LINE_________________________ ...
Dirk,
I rebooted the computer to try your script, this is the output...:
Use which interface ? eth0 execute ifup eth0 ?y What IP address for eth0 ? 192.168.1.32
Attempting to configure eth0 + ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.32 + set +x
Press return key + ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 1C:6F:65:91:08:F9 inet addr:192.168.1.32 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
+ set +x What is the name or IP address of the router/gateway? 192.168.1.1 specifying path to router 192.168.1.1 + route add 192.168.1.1 eth0 + set +x defining 192.168.1.1 as the gateway. + route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0 + set +x Verifiny that route table complete: + route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 + set +x test local network with 3 pings: + ping -c 3 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms pipe 2 + set +x test routing by pinging Google public DNS servers 3 times each + ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms pipe 3 + ping -c 3 8.8.4.4 PING 8.8.4.4 (8.8.4.4) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.32 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
--- 8.8.4.4 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms pipe 3 + set +x Testing DNS functionality: pinging www.google.com 3 times + ping -c 3 www.google.com ping: unknown host www.google.com + set +x
As you can see, it just didn't find the router... I switched off and on the router, and the connection gets established (eth immediately after switch on, internet after the router has it...)
Wow... strange behavior. I'm guessing that your router is misbehaving
???
Daniel
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On 15/06/14 21:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hello,
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects.
I have no idea where I could search for the reasons, where to look up hints or logs, what data I should mention here, where to "screw" to solve the problem...
Opensuse 12.3 KDE 4.10.5 network setup "traditional" with ifup connected by cable from eth0 to adsl-router
Once, after boot, I tried to switch to network-manager, but it tells me that no cable is connected, so I switched back to "traditional".
Earlier, somebody said, I'd have to disconnect the router from all cables incl. phone line and power, and leave it a while. I first thought that it helped, but in fact it did not...
Anybody had similar problems and found a solution?
Thanks for your help!
Daniel
This won't solve your problem but it may provide a clue to someone else as to why this is occurring with you. To see what I am running see my signature line below, but if your mail client does not display it then it is- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU I have a wired connection to my 4-port ADSL2+ Netcomm modem/router and I am using ifup. Most of the time I can start my system and I am connected to the modem/router without a problem. However, for some unknown and incomprehensible reason there are occasions when I am NOT connected to the modem/router - I start Firefox, for example, and it shows that it cannot find my ISP; so I know that the modem/router is not being accessed. A simple restart of the system (Leave>Restart) gets the connection established. I have no idea what causes this -but it would seem to me something in the boot sequence is either too slow or too fast which causes the router not to be recognised. Aaah, now one more thing which needs some input on your part :-) . Are you talking here about a desktop or a laptop? I am talking about my desktop, BTW. I also have a laptop but, after I had to re-install 13.1, the wi-fi connection just simply will NOT work even though it did before I had to re-install 13.1. And with the laptop, too, I am using ifup and not network manager. Checked and double-checked the configuration but zilch, nothing. But as the laptop is only a toy (albeit an expensive one) I haven't bothered with pursuing the problem with the wi-fi. Oh, the wi-fi, when working, connected to the Netcomm modem/router mentioned above (and others when my wife and I were travelling at the time). BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 16.06.2014 09:19, schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 15/06/14 21:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hello,
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects.
I have no idea where I could search for the reasons, where to look up hints or logs, what data I should mention here, where to "screw" to solve the problem...
...
Aaah, now one more thing which needs some input on your part :-) .
Are you talking here about a desktop or a laptop? I am talking about my desktop, BTW.
... I am talking about the wired desktop. With the laptop (WiFi, also OS 12.3) I have no problem. I boot it and the WiFi-connection is here... It seems as if the desktop-system cannot find the router via cable after boot... If, after boot, I open a browser and want to connect to 192.168.1.1 (which should be the router) it's not found... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Daniel Bauer
I am talking about the wired desktop.
With the laptop (WiFi, also OS 12.3) I have no problem. I boot it and the WiFi-connection is here...
It seems as if the desktop-system cannot find the router via cable after boot...
If, after boot, I open a browser and want to connect to 192.168.1.1 (which should be the router) it's not found...
I've had routers do exactly this. Failed when connected by cable unless rebooted, but worked perfect on WiFi. The only solutions I've found that worked was to either use WiFi for all devices until WiFi failed too, or replace the router before it completely failed. C. -- openSUSE 13.1 x86_64, KDE 4.13 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/06/14 18:47, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 16.06.2014 09:19, schrieb Basil Chupin:
On 15/06/14 21:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Hello,
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects.
I have no idea where I could search for the reasons, where to look up hints or logs, what data I should mention here, where to "screw" to solve the problem...
...
Aaah, now one more thing which needs some input on your part :-) .
Are you talking here about a desktop or a laptop? I am talking about my desktop, BTW.
...
I am talking about the wired desktop.
With the laptop (WiFi, also OS 12.3) I have no problem. I boot it and the WiFi-connection is here...
It seems as if the desktop-system cannot find the router via cable after boot...
If, after boot, I open a browser and want to connect to 192.168.1.1 (which should be the router) it's not found...
Daniel
Do you have some firewall running (apart from the firewall which oS sets up when you install it)? And now for the other question: how is your desktop connecting to the modem/router (via wire)? Is the LAN connection being done from the LAN chip on you motherboard or from a PCI(/e) card installed on the mobo? On my new mobo I initially used the onboard LAN but this went "belly up" after a couple of days. I went out and bought a PCIe card, and haven't looked back. Bottom line here: is your mobo chip or the card playing up, and/or is your LAN cable still up to its task? :-) BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 6/16/2014 1:47 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
I am talking about the wired desktop.
With the laptop (WiFi, also OS 12.3) I have no problem. I boot it and the WiFi-connection is here...
It seems as if the desktop-system cannot find the router via cable after boot...
If, after boot, I open a browser and want to connect to 192.168.1.1 (which should be the router) it's not found...
Any chance this desktop with the wired connection is connected to the router's WAN (outside) port? (That port is designed to be connected to your up-stream, but if your wifi router sits INSIDE your network (as mine does), and is protected by another gateway router (perhaps provided by your ISP), then it really doesn't matter which port of your router is connected to the desktop except that: 1) it won't serve it's web interface toward what it believes to be the WAN port, 2) it possibly won't answer pings on the wan port (or any port). Upon reboot, routers often re-configure their WAN side port as a LAN side port if they can't reach the internet on it. (I know this isn't your first Rodeo Daniel, so please don't get insulted at the question). -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 16.06.2014 21:30, schrieb John Andersen:
On 6/16/2014 1:47 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
I am talking about the wired desktop.
With the laptop (WiFi, also OS 12.3) I have no problem. I boot it and the WiFi-connection is here...
It seems as if the desktop-system cannot find the router via cable after boot...
If, after boot, I open a browser and want to connect to 192.168.1.1 (which should be the router) it's not found...
Any chance this desktop with the wired connection is connected to the router's WAN (outside) port?
(That port is designed to be connected to your up-stream, but if your wifi router sits INSIDE your network (as mine does), and is protected by another gateway router (perhaps provided by your ISP), then it really doesn't matter which port of your router is connected to the desktop except that:
1) it won't serve it's web interface toward what it believes to be the WAN port, 2) it possibly won't answer pings on the wan port (or any port).
Upon reboot, routers often re-configure their WAN side port as a LAN side port if they can't reach the internet on it.
(I know this isn't your first Rodeo Daniel, so please don't get insulted at the question).
Sure I don't get insulted, John, I'm grateful for anything that could better the situation... However I don't really understand... how I can find out, if I switched the cable into the WAN or LAN port....? There are 4 ethernet jacks, and it makes no difference to which I connect the cable (except that another, the corresponding, little light on the router is lighted). It was always connected like this, for Should I check something in some 5 years, but the problem started some months ago, without changing something physically, only tons of OS updates, of course... Should I double-check something in the routers web interface? Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 15.06.2014 13:20, schrieb Daniel Bauer:
since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects.
Hi everybody, just to let you know: it was the router. It does not detect a connected cable unless the router is switched off/on. If you unplug the cable and plug it in again (no matter in which of the 4 plugs) the router only checks that the cable is unplugged but doesn't see (or feel?) the new plug-in, the appropriate light does not go on... So nothing to do with OS, just a hardware failure... Thanks for your thoughts and your help! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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