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Per Jessen

26 Aug 2011 26 Aug '11

10:35

Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 26/08/11 18:38, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 26/08/11 17:45, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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I am migrating over from MS Outlook, and would like to import all my old email, TB will import this mail. Are you sure Basil? I haven't tried, but I could do with such an option.

See attached screenshot of the Import option in TB's Tools.

Try selecting "Mail"->"Next", and you'll see that the only option is from "Communicator 4.1" (or something like that).

/Per

I am using TB #6 and do not see the above: I see the option to enter the application from which I want to import the old mail etc.

BC

This sounds really intriguing to me - I could do with a proper/clean way of importing mail from MS Outlook/Exchange PST files. I tried installing TB#6 from Factory, but as it seemed to have few missing deps, I got the tar file from mozilla directly instead, and installed that. Basil, when I choose "Import"->"Mail", I still don't see any optino to enter an application - I have an empty window which suggests I pick a file type (none listed) to import from. Would you know if I need some third party libraries or some such? thanks Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (27.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Carl Hartung

26 Aug 26 Aug

11:23

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:35:40 +0200 Per Jessen wrote: <snipped>

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This sounds really intriguing to me - I could do with a proper/clean way of importing mail from MS Outlook/Exchange PST files. I tried installing TB#6 from Factory, but as it seemed to have few missing deps, I got the tar file from mozilla directly instead, and installed that. Basil, when I choose "Import"->"Mail", I still don't see any optino to enter an application - I have an empty window which suggests I pick a file type (none listed) to import from. Would you know if I need some third party libraries or some such?

thanks Per

Hi Per, I recall migrating from Outlook to the Mozilla suite some years ago. I used an 'experimental / in development' third party package called "libpst" to do the migration. It was a tarball item and once built it /mostly/ worked; some items had to be cleaned up by hand and it took more than one try. Sorry I can't remember any more details than this, but you might want to search the web and see if it's still available. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

11:47

Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:35:40 +0200 Per Jessen wrote: <snipped>

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This sounds really intriguing to me - I could do with a proper/clean way of importing mail from MS Outlook/Exchange PST files. I tried installing TB#6 from Factory, but as it seemed to have few missing deps, I got the tar file from mozilla directly instead, and installed that. Basil, when I choose "Import"->"Mail", I still don't see any optino to enter an application - I have an empty window which suggests I pick a file type (none listed) to import from. Would you know if I need some third party libraries or some such?

thanks Per

Hi Per,

I recall migrating from Outlook to the Mozilla suite some years ago. I used an 'experimental / in development' third party package called "libpst" to do the migration. It was a tarball item and once built it /mostly/ worked; some items had to be cleaned up by hand and it took more than one try. Sorry I can't remember any more details than this, but you might want to search the web and see if it's still available.

Hi Carl thanks, that is exactly what I've been using sofar. It's working fairly well, but does throw a wobbly every now and then. When I saw Basils posting, I thought perhaps Thunderbird had come up with something even better. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (29.7°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

13:38

On 26/08/11 21:47, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:35:40 +0200 Per Jessen wrote: <snipped>

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This sounds really intriguing to me - I could do with a proper/clean way of importing mail from MS Outlook/Exchange PST files. I tried installing TB#6 from Factory, but as it seemed to have few missing deps, I got the tar file from mozilla directly instead, and installed that. Basil, when I choose "Import"->"Mail", I still don't see any optino to enter an application - I have an empty window which suggests I pick a file type (none listed) to import from. Would you know if I need some third party libraries or some such?

thanks Per Hi Per,

I recall migrating from Outlook to the Mozilla suite some years ago. I used an 'experimental / in development' third party package called "libpst" to do the migration. It was a tarball item and once built it /mostly/ worked; some items had to be cleaned up by hand and it took more than one try. Sorry I can't remember any more details than this, but you might want to search the web and see if it's still available. Hi Carl

thanks, that is exactly what I've been using sofar. It's working fairly well, but does throw a wobbly every now and then. When I saw Basils posting, I thought perhaps Thunderbird had come up with something even better.

/Per

Does this help?: http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=switching-thunderbird-windows-or-web-based-email-a BC -- "Facts are stupid things." Ronald Reagan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

14:26

Basil Chupin wrote:

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Does this help?:

http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=switching-thunderbird-windows-or-web-based-email-a

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Thanks, no it redirects to some page that doesn't even mention Outlook and Exchange. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (31.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Linda Walsh

22:51

Could you setup 'dovecot' temporarily and point it at what you want to be your mail dir, then in outlook open the imap account, create the imap folder(s) to store your old email in, Then move them all out of outlook's PST onto the imap store. Then in Tbird, you can sub to the imap, and move them from there into local folders. OR...if you want, you can just keep everything in imap & use 'fetchmail', to pull down your ISP mail, and put it in your 'inbox'... (or deliver it to a sort filter so it can put it into any of your imap folders)... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

27 Aug 27 Aug

09:07

Linda Walsh wrote:

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Could you setup 'dovecot' temporarily and point it at what you want to be your mail dir, then in outlook open the imap account, create the imap folder(s) to store your old email in,

Then move them all out of outlook's PST onto the imap store.

Then in Tbird, you can sub to the imap, and move them from there into local folders.

Yes, I know this method, and it works very well. However, I don't actually have Outlook, plus I am looking for something that I can run from the command line (to extract complete emails from a PST file). Because Basil reported TB 6 being capable of converting Outlook mail, I thought the Mozilla guys had hit on something new. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward

11:01

Linda Walsh said the following on 08/26/2011 06:51 PM:

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OR...if you want, you can just keep everything in imap& use 'fetchmail', to pull down your ISP mail, and put it in your 'inbox'... (or deliver it to a sort filter so it can put it into any of your imap folders)...

That's certainly a good idea. Its even worth having that on a separate machine, a mail server, along with Postfix and SpamAssassin. Many advantages, not the least of which, relevant to this thread, is that the mail repository is there, safe, and you can play with different installations, different mail readers on your primary machine. -- People who are willing to rely on the government to keep them safe are pretty much standing on Darwin's mat, pounding on the door, screaming, "Take me, take me!" -- Carl Jacobs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Linda Walsh

28 Aug 28 Aug

08:57

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Importing mail into Thunderbird 6

Anton Aylward wrote:

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Linda Walsh said the following on 08/26/2011 06:51 PM:

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OR...if you want, you can just keep everything in imap& use 'fetchmail', to pull down your ISP mail, and put it in your 'inbox'... (or deliver it to a sort filter so it can put it into any of your imap folders)...

That's certainly a good idea. Its even worth having that on a separate machine, a mail server, along with Postfix and SpamAssassin. Many advantages, not the least of which, relevant to this thread, is that the mail repository is there, safe, and you can play with different installations, different mail readers on your primary machine.

--- My desktop machine is a windows machine. It's serviced by the linux machine that does all of the above as well as DNS, proxy, samba, backups, profile server. All my user data is on linux. the Win7 machine has a smaller but faster disk cache for programs & scratch space. Been running fetchmail on 'the server' (different machine now, original 'repurpose Dual (2cpu)x 1GHz P-III (with a whole 1GB of memory!) workstation, died just shy of 10 years.)...for over 10 years now...'fetchmail', then into presort, which also handles passing it through SA... That way... I can play w/multiple clients...etc. 'Dovecot' (IMAP), is fast and does folder searching/index fast even without the special seive software you can add. -- so all email is prefetched to local 1Gb net. Of course, as of TB3.0, the default in Thunderbird was changed to download all of a user's email into their local *Roaming* profile, which slowed down my adoption along those lines. I'm told the behavior can be turned off...but why they made it they default to download 4GB of IMAP email into a roaming profile, is ... too lame for words... IMAP!=POP... IMAP is a remote file system with remote searching...I never got a confirmation of whether or not they do the same thing with MS-exchange -- (if they work w/it)...i.e. if they download the users entire email cache into their local roaming profile (NOT even the local-static part of the profile, but the ROAMING profile!)... Where it proceeded to be copied back and forth on logout/login, adding about 20-25 minutes on logout, and about 3-5 minutes on loggin (just checks to see that local copy is current).. I'm doing final 'testing' and messing around w/having my /home partition -- were all my Win docs (pics etcs, are) snapshot'ed every night w/LVM. I let the snap go for 24 hours, then copy the diffs off using 'rsync' to a static volume and start again. If you mount them in samba in a snapshot dir labeled by date& time: Ishtar:> ls /home/snapdir @GMT-2011.07.20-13.43.15/ @GMT-2011.08.15-10.02.25/ @GMT-2011.08.25-02.13.58/ @GMT-2011.07.25-16.24.53/ @GMT-2011.08.19-13.45.19/ @GMT-2011.08.26-03.01.27/ @GMT-2011.08.08-03.29.58/ @GMT-2011.08.20-03.45.35/ @GMT-2011.08.27-06.49.47/ @GMT-2011.08.12-22.14.26/ @GMT-2011.08.22-00.46.46/ @GMT-2011.08.14-20.59.12/ @GMT-2011.08.23-18.00.56/ Ishtar:> Then any files which have changed will show up as 'previous versions' on the Windows client - making restoring a screwup much easier than restoring a backup.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

07:31

On 27/08/11 00:26, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Does this help?:

http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=switching-thunderbird-windows-or-web-based-email-a Thanks, no it redirects to some page that doesn't even mention Outlook and Exchange.

Something definitely wrong here..... the instructions specifically mention Outlook and Outlook Express and also mention the Contact Address book (whatever). The instructions apply to FF6=>FF3 (or something). I have done a couple of screenshots of what I am talking about and am sending them privately. The key instruction which I can see is that Outlook has to be the default application in your system. BC PS AH! I've worked out why you didn't see the URL I provided. You are using the extension NoScript, right? and it is allowing that Mozilla URL to be accessed. If so, then disallow that URL in NoScript and then you will the full instruction list. -- "Facts are stupid things." Ronald Reagan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

08:42

Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 27/08/11 00:26, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Does this help?:

http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=switching-thunderbird-windows-or-web-based-email-a

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Thanks, no it redirects to some page that doesn't even mention Outlook and Exchange.

Something definitely wrong here..... the instructions specifically mention Outlook and Outlook Express and also mention the Contact Address book (whatever). The instructions apply to FF6=>FF3 (or something).

Here is a screenshot from that page as I see it: http://files.jessen.ch/tbimport

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I have done a couple of screenshots of what I am talking about and am sending them privately.

The key instruction which I can see is that Outlook has to be the default application in your system.

And my system would therefore have to be Windows.

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PS AH! I've worked out why you didn't see the URL I provided. You are using the extension NoScript, right? and it is allowing that Mozilla URL to be accessed. If so, then disallow that URL in NoScript and then you will the full instruction list.

Nope, no such extension here - I think I'm being redirected because I'm not on a Windows system. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

14:16

On 28/08/11 18:42, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 27/08/11 00:26, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Does this help?:

http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=switching-thunderbird-windows-or-web-based-email-a Thanks, no it redirects to some page that doesn't even mention Outlook and Exchange.

Something definitely wrong here..... the instructions specifically mention Outlook and Outlook Express and also mention the Contact Address book (whatever). The instructions apply to FF6=>FF3 (or something). Here is a screenshot from that page as I see it:

http://files.jessen.ch/tbimport

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I have done a couple of screenshots of what I am talking about and am sending them privately.

The key instruction which I can see is that Outlook has to be the default application in your system. And my system would therefore have to be Windows.

In my private message I provided you with an URL which explained how to get Outlook/Express mail into TB. The "secret" - and it makes sense - is simply to install TB in your Windows installation (you must have Windows to be able to run Outlook, right?) and import the mail into TB; the mail files you can then simply copy over into your Linux installation of TB.

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PS AH! I've worked out why you didn't see the URL I provided. You are using the extension NoScript, right? and it is allowing that Mozilla URL to be accessed. If so, then disallow that URL in NoScript and then you will the full instruction list. Nope, no such extension here - I think I'm being redirected because I'm not on a Windows system.

Neither am I. Haven't used Windows in years..... BC -- "Facts are stupid things." Ronald Reagan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

29 Aug 29 Aug

05:49

Basil Chupin wrote:

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In my private message I provided you with an URL which explained how to get Outlook/Express mail into TB.

The "secret" - and it makes sense - is simply to install TB in your Windows installation (you must have Windows to be able to run Outlook, right?)

I don't really want to use either one if I can avoid it - I don't run Outlook nor Windows. However, I have PST files that I would like to extract emails from, and when you mentioned TB being able to import from Outlook, I thought maybe TB had a new (and better) approach.

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PS AH! I've worked out why you didn't see the URL I provided. You are using the extension NoScript, right? and it is allowing that Mozilla URL to be accessed. If so, then disallow that URL in NoScript and then you will the full instruction list. Nope, no such extension here - I think I'm being redirected because I'm not on a Windows system.

Neither am I. Haven't used Windows in years.....

Very weird that a webpage would look so completely different. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

06:40

On 29/08/11 15:49, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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In my private message I provided you with an URL which explained how to get Outlook/Express mail into TB.

The "secret" - and it makes sense - is simply to install TB in your Windows installation (you must have Windows to be able to run Outlook, right?) I don't really want to use either one if I can avoid it - I don't run Outlook nor Windows. However, I have PST files that I would like to extract emails from, and when you mentioned TB being able to import from Outlook, I thought maybe TB had a new (and better) approach.

(Oy vey! You are a difficult patient, you are :-) . You don't know anyone who runs Windows and can install TB on it so that these PST files, which you will transport on a memory shtik, can be read in and then imported into TB?)

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PS AH! I've worked out why you didn't see the URL I provided. You are using the extension NoScript, right? and it is allowing that Mozilla URL to be accessed. If so, then disallow that URL in NoScript and then you will the full instruction list. Nope, no such extension here - I think I'm being redirected because I'm not on a Windows system.

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Neither am I. Haven't used Windows in years..... Very weird that a webpage would look so completely different.

Agreed. The only thing I can think of is that I am running Firefox #9 (Nightly) and.... w-e-e-e-l-l-l-l...... :-) . BC -- "Facts are stupid things." Ronald Reagan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

08:20

Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 29/08/11 15:49, Per Jessen wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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In my private message I provided you with an URL which explained how to get Outlook/Express mail into TB.

The "secret" - and it makes sense - is simply to install TB in your Windows installation (you must have Windows to be able to run Outlook, right?) I don't really want to use either one if I can avoid it - I don't run Outlook nor Windows. However, I have PST files that I would like to extract emails from, and when you mentioned TB being able to import from Outlook, I thought maybe TB had a new (and better) approach.

(Oy vey! You are a difficult patient, you are :-) .

You don't know anyone who runs Windows and can install TB on it so that these PST files, which you will transport on a memory shtik, can be read in and then imported into TB?)

It's an infrequently returning job/conversion (from customers), and I have so far managed fairly well with libpst - it does occasionally complain, so I'm simply on the lookout for something better. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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