[opensuse] TV recording programs

John Meyer

27 Dec 2007 27 Dec '07

15:33

I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Stevens

28 Dec 28 Dec

07:02

On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:33, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

xawtv has a save to avi option. Not sure how good it is. I use a Windows app (several, actually) if I want to record video. about the best I've run across so far (ease of use, cpu overhead, etc) is Open Video Capture at http://www.008soft.com/products/video-capture.htm It isn't open source and it costs $30 and it doesn't work with wine. With CIF (320x240) resolution (view and save) at mpeg4 and a P4/2.4GHz system it uses less than 20% cpu. I installed it on a doctor's system that runs a realtime patient data monitoring hardware/software app that uses about 70% cpu and the video was able to run concurrently without causing the system to lose any data. He was tickled at being able to record the video of the patient and time sync with the data collected. His sessions run around 7 hours and the video files average around 2GB, no problem for a dvd-r. If you aren't too worried about cpu utilization, kick it up to D1 resolution and let it fly. This program is the only one that I found that met all my specs: it has low cpu %, it can be resized, it has several codecs (or uses those that come with Windows) and it can be made to stay "on top". If you want Linux DVR software, I am sure that something like ffmpeg and mencoder will read the video device and output a file but I know not the commands. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Cristea Bogdan

18:16

In linux a good alternative would be kaffeine. I have used this with my DVB tuner, but I am not sure if it is suitable for recording. On 12/28/07, Stevens wrote:

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On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:33, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

xawtv has a save to avi option. Not sure how good it is. I use a Windows app (several, actually) if I want to record video. about the best I've run across so far (ease of use, cpu overhead, etc) is Open Video Capture at http://www.008soft.com/products/video-capture.htm

It isn't open source and it costs $30 and it doesn't work with wine. With CIF (320x240) resolution (view and save) at mpeg4 and a P4/2.4GHz system it uses less than 20% cpu. I installed it on a doctor's system that runs a realtime patient data monitoring hardware/software app that uses about 70% cpu and the video was able to run concurrently without causing the system to lose any data. He was tickled at being able to record the video of the patient and time sync with the data collected. His sessions run around 7 hours and the video files average around 2GB, no problem for a dvd-r.

If you aren't too worried about cpu utilization, kick it up to D1 resolution and let it fly. This program is the only one that I found that met all my specs: it has low cpu %, it can be resized, it has several codecs (or uses those that come with Windows) and it can be made to stay "on top".

If you want Linux DVR software, I am sure that something like ffmpeg and mencoder will read the video device and output a file but I know not the commands.

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James Tremblay

19:37

Cristea Bogdan wrote:

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In linux a good alternative would be kaffeine. I have used this with my DVB tuner, but I am not sure if it is suitable for recording.

On 12/28/07, Stevens wrote:

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On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:33, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

xawtv has a save to avi option. Not sure how good it is. I use a Windows app (several, actually) if I want to record video. about the best I've run across so far (ease of use, cpu overhead, etc) is Open Video Capture at http://www.008soft.com/products/video-capture.htm

It isn't open source and it costs $30 and it doesn't work with wine. With CIF (320x240) resolution (view and save) at mpeg4 and a P4/2.4GHz system it uses less than 20% cpu. I installed it on a doctor's system that runs a realtime patient data monitoring hardware/software app that uses about 70% cpu and the video was able to run concurrently without causing the system to lose any data. He was tickled at being able to record the video of the patient and time sync with the data collected. His sessions run around 7 hours and the video files average around 2GB, no problem for a dvd-r.

If you aren't too worried about cpu utilization, kick it up to D1 resolution and let it fly. This program is the only one that I found that met all my specs: it has low cpu %, it can be resized, it has several codecs (or uses those that come with Windows) and it can be made to stay "on top".

If you want Linux DVR software, I am sure that something like ffmpeg and mencoder will read the video device and output a file but I know not the commands.

Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hey Again, On the topic of PVR software, UBUNTU and MYTHTV are heavily integrated in a version just released called "MYTHBuntu" which I believe is a "live to installed" disk,what is next? MYTHTV themselves just released a live cd called "MYTHos" that boots, scans for tuner hardware and channels then starts up MYTHTV, A very Ubuntu style 1-click install formats your hard drive and installs the entire package settings and all. (does a lousy job with raid setups) If your still into Windoze, then there are several hacks out there to upgrade an XP install to MCE, so if you buy MCE you don't need to destroy your existing setup to install it. :) very nice. It uses your cable companies TV guide to bring in a free version of an EPG that all the others require a subscription too. Which makes the 100.00 buy in well worth it! Any thing more I can do to help, let me know. Unfortunately openSUSE is an "also ran" in this market place. If I scripted at all I would take the Packman MYTHTV packages an write a complete installer but........ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

peter nikolic

14:56

On Thursday 27 December 2007, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

Try Kaffeine .. If you tv card is digital it works a treat has timer functions ect ect ect i use it all the time if your card is an older Analogue job i never had any suceses with recording at all -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

BandiPat

15:42

On Friday 28 December 2007, peter nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 27 December 2007, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

Try Kaffeine ..

If you tv card is digital it works a treat has timer functions ect ect ect i use it all the time

if your card is an older Analogue job i never had any suceses with recording at all

The next question might be, "what tv card do YOU use?" I would guess most cards sold now are digital? Kaffeine is quickly becoming quite the do-all media player. Thanks for the tip! Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Tremblay

19:36

BandiPat wrote:

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On Friday 28 December 2007, peter nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 27 December 2007, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

Try Kaffeine ..

If you tv card is digital it works a treat has timer functions ect ect ect i use it all the time

if your card is an older Analogue job i never had any suceses with recording at all

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The next question might be, "what tv card do YOU use?" I would guess most cards sold now are digital? Kaffeine is quickly becoming quite the do-all media player. Thanks for the tip!

Lee

Hey There! As someone who has been recently very interested in PVR\DVR technology. I can assure you not all cards are equal and not all digital cards support digital cable tv. what you need to look for is 64\256 QAM usually a card that carries this standard also carries digital cable capabilities. Most cards right now hide the fact that there "Digital HDTV" is the "Over - The- Air" type, My suggestion for anyone looking into PVR tech this year (in the US) buy a cheap KWorld card , they have hardware encoding\decoding, digital cable\QAM and a 40.00$ price tag. I say this because in 14 months the market will HAVE TO INCLUDE digital cable support. Which does not guarantee the cable companies will broadcast all un-encrypted signals on the wire like they have to now by law, that law ends with the beginning of Digital cable-HDTV in Feb 09 At which time they are no longer required to convey any unencrypted programming at all. Good Luck JT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

peter nikolic

29 Dec 29 Dec

11:00

On Friday 28 December 2007, BandiPat wrote:

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On Friday 28 December 2007, peter nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 27 December 2007, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

Try Kaffeine ..

If you tv card is digital it works a treat has timer functions ect ect ect i use it all the time

if your card is an older Analogue job i never had any suceses with recording at all

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The next question might be, "what tv card do YOU use?" I would guess most cards sold now are digital? Kaffeine is quickly becoming quite the do-all media player. Thanks for the tip!

Lee

Hi Lee . Not sure if you were asking me or the OP i run the Hauppauge DVT PCI card and whilst it may not do HDTV or similar there is still too many variables in HDTV to make it worth looking at and any how it nothing but a big con job from what i have seen of HD so far it aint nothing to write home about .. Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Billie Walsh

14:24

On 12/29/2007 peter nikolic wrote:

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Not sure if you were asking me or the OP i run the Hauppauge DVT PCI card and whilst it may not do HDTV or similar there is still too many variables in HDTV to make it worth looking at and any how it nothing but a big con job from what i have seen of HD so far it aint nothing to write home about ..

Pete .

Watch something on a 1080P 62" screen and you won't think that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

peter nikolic

15:38

On Saturday 29 December 2007, Billie Walsh wrote:

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On 12/29/2007 peter nikolic wrote:

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Not sure if you were asking me or the OP i run the Hauppauge DVT PCI card and whilst it may not do HDTV or similar there is still too many variables in HDTV to make it worth looking at and any how it nothing but a big con job from what i have seen of HD so far it aint nothing to write home about ..

Pete .

Watch something on a 1080P 62" screen and you won't think that.

Have done not impressed ! -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Rodney Baker

30 Dec 30 Dec

05:32

On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 14:56 +0000, peter nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 27 December 2007, John Meyer wrote:

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I have a TV card and I want to record programs with it. I've tried out mythtv, but it seems a little too much for me. Are there any other alternatives out there?

Try Kaffeine ..

If you tv card is digital it works a treat has timer functions ect ect ect i use it all the time

if your card is an older Analogue job i never had any suceses with recording at all

-- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.)

FWIW, I've had very good results with Aver Media USB DVB-T tuners. These are a USB Pen-drive-style tuner and I have 2 - one is just a SD/HD DVB-T tuner and the other is a hybrid that includes analogue TV, DTV (SD/HD), composite and s-video inputs and FM radio. Aver supply (non-OS) drivers for them on their web sites as source tar balls with build scripts. I've had good success with both of them on 10.3 and they integrate nicely with Kaffeine. You need to have the kernel headers installed to build the driver modules. http://www.avermedia.com. Disclaimer - I have no affiliation with Aver Media or any of their distributors or affiliates. I am merely relaying my experience as a user. YMMV. Regards, Rodney. -- Rodney Baker -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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