[opensuse] Intermittent slowness on 13.1-64
Hi Folks, Has anyone noticed an intermittent overall balkiness with 13.1-64? Has that issue with journald on spinning media been fixed yet? I've seen this a couple of times now, but haven't been able to zero in on the cause yet. I'm trying setting "Storage=volatile" in /etc/systemd/journal.conf to see if it makes a difference. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Has anyone noticed an intermittent overall balkiness with 13.1-64?
I've had the same issue with 13.1-i586.
Has that issue with journald on spinning media been fixed yet?
I'm thinking that's the issue. I've been keeping a konsole open with top running. Every single time, loadavg spikes (as high as 40!) Ny typical load is around 2... (And even that is providing shitty response compared to pre-systemd releases... not just occasionally -- ALL THE TIME!) Anyway, when the system suddenly drops to a crawl, and the loadavg spikes, top tells me that idle time is 0.0 but wait time is as high as 90%, which means that there is some sort of I/O bottleneck going on, and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it was journald-related, simply because the authors have a history of being flagrantly flaky, and generally not giving a fuck about anything that doesn't concern themselves personally.
I've seen this a couple of times now, but haven't been able to zero in on the cause yet. I'm trying setting "Storage=volatile" in /etc/systemd/journal.conf to see if it makes a difference.
Regards, Lew
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On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 03:19 -0400, Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Has anyone noticed an intermittent overall balkiness with 13.1-64?
I've had the same issue with 13.1-i586.
Has that issue with journald on spinning media been fixed yet?
I'm thinking that's the issue.
I've been keeping a konsole open with top running.
Every single time, loadavg spikes (as high as 40!)
Ny typical load is around 2... (And even that is providing shitty response compared to pre-systemd releases... not just occasionally -- ALL THE TIME!)
Anyway, when the system suddenly drops to a crawl, and the loadavg spikes, top tells me that idle time is 0.0 but wait time is as high as 90%, which means that there is some sort of I/O bottleneck going on, and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it was journald-related, simply because the authors have a history of being flagrantly flaky, and generally not giving a fuck about anything that doesn't concern themselves personally.
I've seen this a couple of times now, but haven't been able to zero in on the cause yet. I'm trying setting "Storage=volatile" in /etc/systemd/journal.conf to see if it makes a difference.
Regards, Lew
Pretty sure those problems have been corrected in 13.2. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/24/2014 01:30 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Has anyone noticed an intermittent overall balkiness with 13.1-64? Has that issue with journald on spinning media been fixed yet? I've seen this a couple of times now, but haven't been able to zero in on the cause yet. I'm trying setting "Storage=volatile" in /etc/systemd/journal.conf to see if it makes a difference.
Regards, Lew
Lew, I always limit the journal size to something sane in /etc/systemd/journald.conf: [Journal] SystemMaxUse=320M I haven't noticed any inherent slowdowns on 13.1 x86_64 (except for the ones I have caused) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin composed on 2014-10-25 15:56 (UTC-0500):
I always limit the journal size to something sane in /etc/systemd/journald.conf:
[Journal] SystemMaxUse=320M
I haven't noticed any inherent slowdowns on 13.1 x86_64 (except for the ones I have caused)
I have one 64 bit test system that has inexplicable delays at various times that never show up as due to storage subsystem on tty10, and it seems like it doesn't depend on what I boot. The current systemd.journal in its 13.2 (upgraded from a pre-release 13.1) is 24576K, and dates back just over 13 months. Total in that directory is 136028K in 8 files. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/25/2014 04:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
I have one 64 bit test system that has inexplicable delays at various times that never show up as due to storage subsystem on tty10, and it seems like it doesn't depend on what I boot. The current systemd.journal in its 13.2 (upgraded from a pre-release 13.1) is 24576K, and dates back just over 13 months. Total in that directory is 136028K in 8 files.
Felix, Let me qualify that. I do see regular (2-5 second) input freezes in Tbird (but that's it, and that's just Tbird doing whatever Tbird does accessing 10 accounts) If that is your journal size, then it is working as intended. A couple of years ago, there were huge issues with journal size (50G+ to space exhaustion). Many were surprised to find If the journal is persistent (non-volatile), its size limit is set to a default value of 10% of the size of the file system. (with terabyte drives that can be huge). That's when I imposed the limit and never saw any issues. Checking, my 13.1 is doing fine on size (9.5M): -rw-r----- 1 root root 9515008 Oct 25 16:58 system.journal -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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