I read an interview by some Novell exec this week that said they were working on the 10.1 update problem and that a fix would be issued the end of the week. Do the SUSE people here know if that update will fix the current updater that does not work or am I going to ultimately have to go through the gyrations that have been explained in another thread(s) here to get any updates -- even to fix the updater? Thanks for any info. I just installed today and if the fix is coming in a few days and the virgin install will get the update I'd just as soon not unistall zmd, etc. Chuck Davis
Chuck Davis wrote:
I read an interview by some Novell exec this week that said they were working on the 10.1 update problem and that a fix would be issued the end of the week. Do the SUSE people here know if that update will fix the current updater that does not work or am I going to ultimately have to go through the gyrations that have been explained in another thread(s) here to get any updates -- even to fix the updater?
Thanks for any info. I just installed today and if the fix is coming in a few days and the virgin install will get the update I'd just as soon not unistall zmd, etc.
Chuck Davis
install this update and your problems will disappear ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386 fx
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 10:28 +0200, FX Fraipont wrote:
Chuck Davis wrote:
I read an interview by some Novell exec this week that said they were working on the 10.1 update problem and that a fix would be issued the end of the week. Do the SUSE people here know if that update will fix the current updater that does not work or am I going to ultimately have to go through the gyrations that have been explained in another thread(s) here to get any updates -- even to fix the updater?
Thanks for any info. I just installed today and if the fix is coming in a few days and the virgin install will get the update I'd just as soon not unistall zmd, etc.
Chuck Davis
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386
Keep in mind that this is beta software. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 10:28 +0200, FX Fraipont wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386 Keep in mind that this is beta software. and only i386, no x86_64 packages
-- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 19:26 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 10:28 +0200, FX Fraipont wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386 Keep in mind that this is beta software.
And what was released wasn't?
and only i386, no x86_64 packages
How about changing the 10.1-i386 for 10.1-x86_64. or clicking on Parent. Mien gott. -- Dave Cotton <dcotton@linuxautrement.com>
On Saturday 27 May 2006 07:07, Ken Schneider wrote:
Keep in mind that this is beta software.
OK, I've installed everything in that directory (after having to install twelve -devel packages to resolve dependencies) and accomplished this: in YaST's 'Automatic Online Update Setup' module: Selected 'Enable Automatic Update' checkbox Set time to 3:30 a.m. Sunday Selected 'Weekly' checkbox Selected 'Only Download Patches' De-Selected 'Skip Interactive Patches' Clicked 'Finish' and window abruptly closed. Then: KDE Menu > System > Configuration > 'Update Software' bouncing icon... icon loaded in taskbar... error message dialogue: Title: Software Updater - Error "ZMD does not appear to be running." clicked 'Close' and the icon disappeared from the taskbar Anybody know the next step? tia & regards, Carl
KDE Menu > System > Configuration > 'Update Software' bouncing icon... icon loaded in taskbar... error message dialogue: Title: Software Updater - Error "ZMD does not appear to be running." Seems par for the course But better than the times it wants to kill it but can't find to kill so it also crashes.
Anybody know the next step?
tia & regards,
Carl you could try... su. cd /etc/init.d/ ./novell-zmd start
On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:43, ianseeks wrote:
you could try... su. cd /etc/init.d/ ./novell-zmd start
Thanks! The 'Software Updater' windows displayed 'Getting updates list...' 'parse-metadata' ran for about five minutes (viewed via top in shell) 'update-status' ran for two or three minutes I got a rust-red (why not bright red?) SUSEWatcher-like taskbar dot with a white exclamation point in the center Then the 'Software Updater' window listed eight available updates. I clicked Select 'All' then 'Update' The 'Software Updater' window displayed 'resolving dependencies...' A 'Change Summary' dialogue opened asking 'Apply the following changes?' I clicked 'Apply' The 'Software Updater' window displayed 'Updating software...' with a progress bar that actually tracked the installation progress. Eventually a 'Software Updater - Info' pop-up appeared stating 'The update was successful.' I clicked 'Close' and then 'Close' and the normal updater icon reappeared in my taskbar. Look like it works here! :-) And it was easy, too! Carl
On Saturday 27 May 2006 09:28, FX Fraipont wrote:
Chuck Davis wrote:
I read an interview by some Novell exec this week that said they were working on the 10.1 update problem and that a fix would be issued the end of the week. Do the SUSE people here know if that update will fix the current updater that does not work or am I going to ultimately have to go through the gyrations that have been explained in another thread(s) here to get any updates -- even to fix the updater?
Thanks for any info. I just installed today and if the fix is coming in a few days and the virgin install will get the update I'd just as soon not unistall zmd, etc.
Chuck Davis
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
fx Which packages should be installed ?
michael norman <michaeltnorman@ukfsn.org> writes:
On Saturday 27 May 2006 09:28, FX Fraipont wrote:
Chuck Davis wrote:
I read an interview by some Novell exec this week that said they were working on the 10.1 update problem and that a fix would be issued the end of the week. Do the SUSE people here know if that update will fix the current updater that does not work or am I going to ultimately have to go through the gyrations that have been explained in another thread(s) here to get any updates -- even to fix the updater?
Thanks for any info. I just installed today and if the fix is coming in a few days and the virgin install will get the update I'd just as soon not unistall zmd, etc.
Chuck Davis
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
fx Which packages should be installed ?
Update all that you have on your system... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
ianseeks wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
So, when can we expect the updated updater update? ;-)
Op zaterdag 27 mei 2006 21:07, schreef James Knott:
ianseeks wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1 -i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
So, when can we expect the updated updater update? ;-)
I have a other problem, when i update "dhcp" it stay in the update and the icon will be red every time i update it. The update is done? -- Thx, Gerrit Jan Eldering KDE-versie: 3.5.2 Level "a" Systeem: SUSELinux 10.1 Kernel: 2.6.16.13-4-default
GJE <wavesurf@planet.nl> writes:
Op zaterdag 27 mei 2006 21:07, schreef James Knott:
ianseeks wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1 -i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
So, when can we expect the updated updater update? ;-)
I have a other problem, when i update "dhcp" it stay in the update and the icon will be red every time i update it. The update is done?
With my updated packages? I have not seen this, so please file a bugreport in our bugzilla, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
I have a other problem, when i update "dhcp" it stay in the update and the icon will be red every time i update it. The update is done?
Solved my problem with smart, there where 2 options for the "dhcp" package, the other one did it. -- Thx, Gerrit Jan Eldering KDE-versie: 3.5.2 Level "a" Systeem: SUSELinux 10.1 Kernel: 2.6.16.13-4-default
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ianseeks wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86 Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
So, when can we expect the updated updater update? ;-)
I think there is one more bug that they are trying to fix first before the release. - -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iD8DBQFEeLFBVtBjDid73eYRAnkpAJ9soQjOhiYCs4Nz03ywRLM5o0RdvwCfeXSI WaHXWsC7Zlfwv7aHBHoEnDk= =wK51 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences". So, when can we expect the updated updater update? ;-)
I think there is one more bug that they are trying to fix first before the release.
So I guess they're making sure they fix all the unknown bugs. ;-)
James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> writes:
ianseeks wrote:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
So, when can we expect the updated updater update? ;-)
I plan this week - but first want to fix one more bug, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't. the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences". The update didn't make it work any better (just the refreshing, etc., didn't retry to install anything) for me either [but thanks for the
ianseeks wrote: pointer there was an x86_64 version available, could have sworn I checked the other day and there was only i386]. It eats so much CPU (I have an AMD64 3200 w/ 2GB ram) that it heats up the cpu pretty good. Taking around half an hour to refresh at 100% cpu when I try to change an installation source, or when I log in, just isn't worth it for me. I would rather the updater only check for security updates if it takes it that long that often to refresh. I did add a few sources, but that is just not acceptable. Uninstalling zen-updater, zmd, rug allows me to get more work done without cooking my CPU (for example, ksensors says it is now 36 degrees. When zmd is cooking the cpu, I have seen it at 66 degrees. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871
ianseeks <ianseeks@dsl.pipex.com> writes:
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i3 86
Been there, done that and no they don't.
Did you restart zmd and the zen-updater?
the Software Updater sits there (over 1 hour now) "getting update list" - see attached. If you press Configure button, Services is "Loading Services", Catalogs is "Loading Catalogs", Preferences is "Loading Preferences".
If you restarted, please file a bugreport, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 10:28 +0200, FX Fraipont wrote:
Chuck Davis wrote:
I read an interview by some Novell exec this week that said they were working on the 10.1 update problem and that a fix would be issued the end of the week. Do the SUSE people here know if that update will fix the current updater that does not work or am I going to ultimately have to go through the gyrations that have been explained in another thread(s) here to get any updates -- even to fix the updater?
Thanks for any info. I just installed today and if the fix is coming in a few days and the virgin install will get the update I'd just as soon not unistall zmd, etc.
Chuck Davis
install this update and your problems will disappear
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/10.1-i386
I've got a yast2-core-devel dependancy problem, one of the packages requires it, and it's not on the server there. :(
On Sunday 28 May 2006 01:20, Mike McMullin wrote:
I've got a yast2-core-devel dependancy problem, one of the packages requires it, and it's not on the server there. :(
Hi Mike, When I downloaded the packages I ran 'rpm -Uhv *.rpm --test' and discovered twelve '-devel' package dependencies: blocxx-devel boost-devel curl-devel e2fsprogs-devel hal-devel hwinfo-devel libxcrypt-devel liby2util-devel ncurses-devel popt-devel rpm-devel yast2-core-devel You can check if they're available in the standard distribution using YaST's 'Software Management' module. I was able to download and install them in one shot using apt-get. hth & regards, Carl
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 01:44 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sunday 28 May 2006 01:20, Mike McMullin wrote:
I've got a yast2-core-devel dependancy problem, one of the packages requires it, and it's not on the server there. :(
Hi Mike,
When I downloaded the packages I ran 'rpm -Uhv *.rpm --test' and discovered twelve '-devel' package dependencies:
blocxx-devel boost-devel curl-devel e2fsprogs-devel hal-devel hwinfo-devel libxcrypt-devel liby2util-devel ncurses-devel popt-devel rpm-devel yast2-core-devel
You can check if they're available in the standard distribution using YaST's 'Software Management' module. I was able to download and install them in one shot using apt-get.
hth & regards,
I'm sure it'll help with the packages. I'm not sure about the updater though, it won't shut-down and after re-boot it errored. :( I assume you added the directory into your apt sources, that ought to be easy enough to do. Thanks for the heads up.
On Sunday 28 May 2006 02:11, Mike McMullin wrote:
I'm sure it'll help with the packages. I'm not sure about the updater though, it won't shut-down and after re-boot it errored. :( I assume you added the directory into your apt sources, that ought to be easy enough to do.
Thanks for the heads up.
No, I didn't add the directory as an apt source, I just did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install blocxx-devel boost-devel curl-devel...' and so on, listing all twelve packages. I believe these -devel packages are simply part of 10.1. As far as the "won't shut down" behavior, you've got to be patient... it goes on for several minutes. I didn't time it, but close to 10 wouldn't surprise me. Carl
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 02:21 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sunday 28 May 2006 02:11, Mike McMullin wrote:
I'm sure it'll help with the packages. I'm not sure about the updater though, it won't shut-down and after re-boot it errored. :( I assume you added the directory into your apt sources, that ought to be easy enough to do.
Thanks for the heads up.
No, I didn't add the directory as an apt source, I just did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install blocxx-devel boost-devel curl-devel...' and so on, listing all twelve packages. I believe these -devel packages are simply part of 10.1.
Ahhh, thanks.
As far as the "won't shut down" behavior, you've got to be patient... it goes on for several minutes. I didn't time it, but close to 10 wouldn't surprise me.
/etc/init.d/novel-zmd restart The script reported the error. I'm being patient. ;)
On Sunday 28 May 2006 02:50, Mike McMullin wrote:
The script reported the error. I'm being patient. ;)
If you've got the time and curiosity, open and shell and run 'top' to watch the processes taking turns at the top of the list. That way, you know for sure they're still running. ;-)
Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> writes:
I've got a yast2-core-devel dependancy problem, one of the packages requires it, and it's not on the server there. :(
What exactly is the problem? Please tell me so that we can fix it, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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